Supplements - to Take or Not to Take?

[Jacques]

anyone tried the EAS whey protein?

 

Yup. It's a decent whey supplement for a decent brand. Just for added info though, EAS was considered the leader of supplements back then when they introduced the first commercialized creatine monohydrate supplement in the market called Phosphagen. I'm not so sure what happened to this company now and it seems that other supplement companies have taken over its leadership in the market. For another alternatives, I'd say Dymatize Elite or ON 100% Whey would be a better and less expensive alternative.

[^sweating_pipe69^]

Brother THUG, for debate puposes, I beg to disagree that the majority of people going to the gym has the primary reason to make themselves healthy. It's a vanity thing out there and I'm sure looking great (muscles and all) is the primary issue for the majority. Isn't steroids roughly similar to beauty clinics? There are risks involved too. But all in the name of vanity.

 

I agree... not a majority of gym buffs go there for the main purpose of getting fit and healthy. There's this purpose above of it all... That's the reality!

Edited March 31, 2007 by ^sweating_pipe69^

[villainn32]

Yup. It's a decent whey supplement for a decent brand. Just for added info though, EAS was considered the leader of supplements back then when they introduced the first commercialized creatine monohydrate supplement in the market called Phosphagen. I'm not so sure what happened to this company now and it seems that other supplement companies have taken over its leadership in the market. For another alternatives, I'd say Dymatize Elite or ON 100% Whey would be a better and less expensive alternative.

 

 

ok..thanks for the info..someone is selling me this kasi same price as champion..what do you think is better?

[sikosci]

gatorade and creatine? what you think guys?

[Jacques]

gatorade and creatine? what you think guys?

 

for post workout? why not?

[loonee]

i am someone hu used to take different supplements, used diff whey pwder's for my protein(methoxypro,optimum100%,nitro tech,weider's,gr8"..) creatine (cell tech) fatburners(hydroxycut, hydronyt, xenadrine)... i was pretty much a sucker for them...

 

10lbs of 100% whey would last me about 1 and a half month.. 7lbs of cell tech would barely last me a month... hayy those wer the days.. until i had a talk with our personal family doctor... its not advisable daw for me to take them kahit in moderation kc my dad already had a kidney problem,i think tinanggal ung isa nya kidney.. anyway sb it might be hereditary daw.. so un.. in shrt tinakot ako and natakot naman ako... my dad's cut is from the leftside of his spine till almost half of his front extremity

 

hehe now... coffee before workouts tapos eggwhitess after, i just take as much beef nlng as i can.. steaks and chickn mostly (lean) for my protein and creatine

[enkateam]

i am someone hu used to take different supplements, used diff whey pwder's for my protein(methoxypro,optimum100%,nitro tech,weider's,gr8"..) creatine (cell tech) fatburners(hydroxycut, hydronyt, xenadrine)... i was pretty much a sucker for them...

 

10lbs of 100% whey would last me about 1 and a half month.. 7lbs of cell tech would barely last me a month... hayy those wer the days.. until i had a talk with our personal family doctor... its not advisable daw for me to take them kahit in moderation kc my dad already had a kidney problem,i think tinanggal ung isa nya kidney.. anyway sb it might be hereditary daw.. so un.. in shrt tinakot ako and natakot naman ako... my dad's cut is from the leftside of his spine till almost half of his front extremity

 

hehe now... coffee before workouts tapos eggwhitess after, i just take as much beef nlng as i can.. steaks and chickn mostly (lean) for my protein and creatine

 

you should have your kidney enzymes tested so you know if you actually are predisposed to kidney problems. If you aren't then you should go ahead and take whey.

[Jacques]

ok..thanks for the info..someone is selling me this kasi same price as champion..what do you think is better?

 

Just toss a coin over it. I've tried them both. Same good stuff. Although you may want to try Champion's choco-mochachino. Sarap :cool:

[Jacques]

i am someone hu used to take different supplements, used diff whey pwder's for my protein(methoxypro,optimum100%,nitro tech,weider's,gr8"..) creatine (cell tech) fatburners(hydroxycut, hydronyt, xenadrine)... i was pretty much a sucker for them...

 

10lbs of 100% whey would last me about 1 and a half month.. 7lbs of cell tech would barely last me a month... hayy those wer the days.. until i had a talk with our personal family doctor... its not advisable daw for me to take them kahit in moderation kc my dad already had a kidney problem,i think tinanggal ung isa nya kidney.. anyway sb it might be hereditary daw.. so un.. in shrt tinakot ako and natakot naman ako... my dad's cut is from the leftside of his spine till almost half of his front extremity

 

hehe now... coffee before workouts tapos eggwhitess after, i just take as much beef nlng as i can.. steaks and chickn mostly (lean) for my protein and creatine

 

Lonee, I may not be a doctor but here's my opinion regarding that matter. There's often a misconception that a diet high in protein actually is not kidney friendly. Partially it may be true but not because protein is the culprit. When we adopt a high protein diet, it is assumed that we'd lower the proportion allocated to carbohydrate intake and that I think is where the problem begins. Carbs basically are sugars with the hydrogen molecule attached to it. In lay man's term, it basically has the properties of retaining water in the body. Cut the carbs, and your body will naturally shed off some water stored in your body. This is one reason why some people drop a lot of weight when they adopt a high protein diet. In the initial stage, the abrupt drop in weight is really water weight.

 

What I'm trying to say here is that it's really important to keep yourself hydrated by drinking a lot of water to promote healthy endocrine functions of the kidney. In my opinion, you can continue with whey protein supplements in as much as you continue taking it from other sources like eggs, beef and etc. Now, with regards to promoting hydration in your body, I suggest you abstain from thermogenic/stimulant based supplements like fat burners or even coffee because they are diuretics in nature.

 

Lastly, you might want to have your urine examined once in a while just to ensure that your kidneys are functioning properly. Have your creatinine and protein levels in the urine monitored just for peace of mind. Hope this helps. :hypocritesmiley:

[sativus]

Sativus my friend, you may want to backread a little bit because we don't really recommend the use of supplements when you are relatively new in weight training. You may want to share with us your current diet and we can start by improving on that.

hi! I dont have a specific diet plan, my current diet is just to have a 3 meals and 1 cup of rice or less a day but I've read the past postings about protein, carbs, and calories and I will try to incorporate them. I started working out last July 2006 for three months and never used a supplement, medyo naging firm lang mga muscles ko parang na over train kasi everyday 1muscle a day plus 1hr cardio workout ginawa ko for 6 days then 1 day rest lang. but when I moved here in canada last Oct 2006 dna ko nag gym. I started working out March and it will be my 4th week now. 5'8 ako 184lbs. na ko na gain ako 19lbs since las Nov. dnaman ako mataba medyo malaki lang tyan kasi I was a beer drinker dyan Pinas pero I am working on it now...back to my question 'what supplements is adviseable to take' thanx a lot .... :mtc:

[loonee]

thanks for the advices guys.. but i think id rather play it safe, no hassle of checking what not.. just eat my basic food groups but i really do appreciate it..

*heres one wer i need yall help,, iv recently been involved in a n accident wherein i ended up having a laceration on my right wrist(pulso) it's really no that long barely an inch and a half,thing is, its so deep they had to do couple of stitches just to patch it up.. frist week i could barely move it, now its pretty alright as long as no pressure

 

i cant work out cause of this,, im dyng just running my ass off everyday at the gym.. ic ouldnt evendo my muay thai training... and iv got almost a month to get ready for a beach outing that's las a week.. i need help

 

what can yall suggest that may help my situaton?

 

protein for repair of the muscle tissue and the nerves or whatver

creatine? glutamine? do you guys think it would help?

 

thanks for the advices guys.. but i think id rather play it safe, no hassle of checking what not.. just eat my basic food groups but i really do appreciate it..

*heres one wer i need yall help,, iv recently been involved in a n accident wherein i ended up having a laceration on my right wrist(pulso) it's really no that long barely an inch and a half,thing is, its so deep they had to do couple of stitches just to patch it up.. frist week i could barely move it, now its pretty alright as long as no pressure

 

i cant work out cause of this,, im dyng just running my ass off everyday at the gym.. ic ouldnt evendo my muay thai training... and iv got almost a month to get ready for a beach outing that's las a week.. i need help

 

what can yall suggest that may help my situaton?

 

protein for repair of the muscle tissue and the nerves or whatver

creatine? glutamine? do you guys think it would help?

[eboy2]

guys, i'm taking creatine capsules (GNC) before working out, is it safe for a hypertensive person like me?

i'm taking medications for my hypertension (durabeta and nelapine to lower my blood pressure, and cholestad and lipigem for cholesterol).

So far I've not experience any side effects since I started taking it 3weeks ago.

[enkateam]

guys, i'm taking creatine capsules (GNC) before working out, is it safe for a hypertensive person like me?

i'm taking medications for my hypertension (durabeta and nelapine to lower my blood pressure, and cholestad and lipigem for cholesterol).

So far I've not experience any side effects since I started taking it 3weeks ago.

 

yeah, you're ok man, don't worry about the creatine.

 

also, it's best to take your creatine post workout with your protein shake...

[Flash Sentry]

It's too bad Dan Duchaine died years ago--only learned that now. I have Muscle Media 2000 (only one issue, bought back in the U.S. way back in 1998 or so), and read his Q&A portion there, as well as his Rant article. MM2K I think is the only magazine AFAIK that discussed steroids and other such substances out in the open, and was often condescending at the bodybuilding industry for not be upfront on the use of steroids, especially for those who are pro.

[Jacques]

yeah, you're ok man, don't worry about the creatine.

 

also, it's best to take your creatine post workout with your protein shake...

 

I agree :cool: On a personal note, I'd say next time go for the powdered creatine form and mix it with your protein shake.