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When does a sales person become entitled to the commission? (ex. upon award, upon contract signing, upon payment of services, etc.)

 

So long as that event has already happened, you would be entitled to a commission.

 

also, how is the incentive scheme worded? Are there qualifications? Can it be changed by the company?

 

If not, then you would be entitled.

 

Just make sure all these have already happened.

 

Also, be aware that going to the NLRC will damage your relations with the company. After you file a complaint, expect the company to to look for opportunities to terminate your employment.

 

Also, are you an employee or part of management? This could impact on whether you can go to the NLRC or not.

Hi rocco69, thanks for the quick response.

 

After checking my signed contract with the company I found out that the sales commission term is not written on it. Being one of the sales team in my company we can receive a commission as long as we closed the deal, hit the 80% monthly quota and get at least 3% margin on it. The accounting dept. will include the sales commission in our payslip after 6-8 months after closing the deal. The commission we can get will be computed based on their Sales Incentive Scheme. By the way HR gave me copy of this incentive scheme upon signing the contract.

 

The project that I mention was closed September 2018 and I receive the incentive April 2019. Waiting for 7 months I'm expecting to receive almost 1 million commission from that project but they just gave me a merely 5% of it. Now the same project occur again because its a subscription based product and closed it again for the 2nd time. I'm thinking they will do it again giving me lousy reasons for not giving me the correct commission.

 

Right now I'm looking for another job opportunity before I resign and complaint them to NLRC. Am I doing the right move? Is it possible to settle this if I talk to the HR regarding the issue.

 

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Hi rocco69, thanks for the quick response.

 

After checking my signed contract with the company I found out that the sales commission term is not written on it. Being one of the sales team in my company we can receive a commission as long as we closed the deal, hit the 80% monthly quota and get at least 3% margin on it. The accounting dept. will include the sales commission in our payslip after 6-8 months after closing the deal. The commission we can get will be computed based on their Sales Incentive Scheme. By the way HR gave me copy of this incentive scheme upon signing the contract.

 

The project that I mention was closed September 2018 and I receive the incentive April 2019. Waiting for 7 months I'm expecting to receive almost 1 million commission from that project but they just gave me a merely 5% of it. Now the same project occur again because its a subscription based product and closed it again for the 2nd time. I'm thinking they will do it again giving me lousy reasons for not giving me the correct commission.

 

Right now I'm looking for another job opportunity before I resign and complaint them to NLRC. Am I doing the right move? Is it possible to settle this if I talk to the HR regarding the issue.

 

Thanks

Dropping by to give a few cents, though just a disclaimer that this isn't conclusive:

 

1) Was this so-called incentive scheme by your company properly explained to you during your interview/orientation/job offer? If not, do you have evidence to prove they didn't? If you can get that sort of information then you can contest that the terms of employment weren't explained properly to you, therefore you had no actual consent.

 

2) Keep all your payslips, etc. This will be important to establish that you had an employer-employee relationship, which they may deny by pointing to the terms of your contract. Which brings us to number 3...

 

3) Keep your signed copy of the contract safe. Look at the terms, particularly your job description. These days, a lot of employers add the term "Manager", "Officer", or "Associate" to a job title not only because these words make it sound snazzy, but also because they'll try to use it later on to claim you're not rank-and-file but rather management. Take solace in the fact that the Labor Arbiter will not fall for those cheap tricks--SC rulings have pointed this out countless times. Only idiots would make (or fall for) those arguments.

 

I agree with Libertine that this will definitely sour your relations, and even getting a whiff of your plans may make them out to get you. Make sure you're fine losing the job before proceeding, kung segurista ka.

 

Tibay lang ng loob sir. Magastos at nakakapagod ito for sure though. If you decide to push through, kodos to you for standing up for yourself and helping improve Pinoy labor conditions one case at a time. :D

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Not sure where to post this, this seems like a good thread. What are possible repercussions of being arrested/caught while in a spa?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFPvpbXQ-JM&fbclid=IwAR2XTKqET_4U-9m1EbyoGFZrvDDPa67gZE2-UH1Oc-wvt2XAJeOAs-CD7ho

 

 

 

If you are in a spa (legit) no liability.

 

If you are in a spa offering sexual services and caught on ac, you maybe charged for use of traffick persons.

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Goodmorning po tanong lang ano ano po yung mga puwede isampa na kaso sa mga mahuhuli na unfaithful na asawa? Thank you

If your wife is having sexual intercourse with another man, you can file a case for adultery against your wife.

You need proof that your wife is having sexual intercourse with another man.

 

You may also file for legal separation on the ground of sexual infidelity.

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yung wife ko, gusto makipag hiwalay sakin. sinabi ko nang mag file siya ng annulment, di naman niya ginagawa. ayaw ko na ako dahil hindi ko gagastusan kasi siya may gusto. ano puwedeng magawa na maghiwalay kami ng legal?

mag file ng annulment o declaration of nullity o legal separation.

 

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Goodmorning! I would like to ask lang po. Nagstart ako sa work Nov.7,2019 as receptionist sa isang spa sa loob ng mall. ang sahod ko is 537/day. Umaabot ng 11-12hrs ang duty ko pero wala naman bayad ang OT ko. umabot pa ko ng 13-14hrs duty this month kasi nagmidnight sale ang mall then sumabay pa yung pag aayos ng CCTV nila na ang permit is 12am-2am ako ang nagbantay nun so halos 16hrs yon. but still walang OT, tapos kapag late ka 100per hour ang singil nila. And as far as I know, double pay ang holidays pero walang ganun sa pinasukan ko. And sa nature of work, ang expectation ko sa work ko as receptionist is pag accomodate sa client and pag provide ng information needed ng clients pero bukod dun, ako din ang nag aayos ng payroll, penalties and deductions ng therapists. for double checking nalang yung may ari. Even small towels na pwede namang isama sa laundry ng malalaking towels eh hndi nya pinapasama kasi ako daw ang maglalaba ng small towels na yon so ayun gnagawa ko. Palagi pa kong bugbog sa sermon at pagbubunganga kapag hndi ko narereach ang quota and umabot na din sa point na tinatakot nya kong ibabawas sakin yung kulang para ma reach ang quota Then now, may hinahanap silang automatic refillable spray sa spa dalawa yun worth 400 each. According to old therapists, bago pa ko naging recep eh hndi na daw talaga nila nakikita yun, Pero ipinipilit ng boss namin na nawala yun under my supervision, I DONT EVEN KNOW kung anong itsura nun tapos kasama ako sa kakaltasan ng sahod para dun and I dont think na fair yun sa part ko. Then nung christmas, I've lost my wallet may nakapulot pero I am not able to meet her kasi nga ayaw ako payagan ng amo ko lumabas saglit, wag ko daw iiwan ang counter so I obeyed them kaya wala akong pera na pangkain at pamasahe kaya nagtry ako if pwede mag CA or kahit hiram na muna pero hindi nila ko pinagbigyan, according to old therapists, ganyan talaga sila pag CA bawal pero 5-6 pwede . Alam ko din yang 5-6 na yan kasi nga ako ang nag aayos ng payroll ng therapists. So I filed a resignation letter today, pero pinagrerender ako ng 15-30days at nasa contract yun which is totoo naman, actually yung contract nga na yun mali pa yung spelling nila sa surname ko e haha. Nagtry ako magsabi ng for immediate resignation sana then sinagot nila ko na wala namang pumipilit sakin pumasok. Kung hindi ko ba papasukan yung render na yun, Makukuha ko pa rin ang sahod ko ng buo? LAHAT PO NG INFORMATION NA SINABI KO MAY PROOF AKO. :) thanks. pa advice po sana.

 

DOLE

http://ncr.dole.gov.ph/default.php?retsamlakygee=22&resource=cfe6055d2e0503be378bb63449ec7ba6

 

make sure you have proof that you tried to settle the issues with your employer and it did not work out.

 

but you already filed your resignation, so any effort on your part to teach these guys a lesson will be moot. unless you want to help your friends you left there.

Maganda rito ay pwede makipag areglo sayo yung employer to drop the complaints.

 

pwede rin hrass them in other ways. do they issue receipts? pwede mo sila sumbong sa BIR.

 

pag pinaclose sila ng BIR, mawawalan ng livelyhood mga kasamahan mo don though. hindi pwede idrop ang complaint sa BIR kasi its not your concern.

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Google?

Atty I just want to know your opinion on this.Meron kasing gm dito na gumagamit ng ibat ibang pictures ng mga babae sa profile pic nya and some of them nakahubad pa. And these are not celebrity pics atty but private individuals.Kung wala pong consent yung mga babaeng nasa profile pic nya na gamitin yung pictures nila as profile pic nitong gm and I doubt that there is, papasok po ba yan sa anti cyber crime law? VAWC? Any other applicable laws?

I hope to hear from u soon atty.Thanks in advance.Have a good day.

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Atty I just want to know your opinion on this.Meron kasing gm dito na gumagamit ng ibat ibang pictures ng mga babae sa profile pic nya and some of them nakahubad pa. And these are not celebrity pics atty but private individuals.Kung wala pong consent yung mga babaeng nasa profile pic nya na gamitin yung pictures nila as profile pic nitong gm and I doubt that there is, papasok po ba yan sa anti cyber crime law? VAWC? Any other applicable laws?

I hope to hear from u soon atty.Thanks in advance.Have a good day.

It could fall under RA 9995 (the Anti-Photo and Voyeurism Act of 2009).

I say "it could" because RA 9995 prohibits the following:

(a) To take photo or video coverage of a person or group of persons performing sexual act or any similar activity or to capture an image of the private area of a person/s such as the naked or undergarment clad genitals, public area, buttocks or female breast without the consent of the person/s involved and under circumstances in which the person/s has/have a reasonable expectation of privacy;

 

(b ) To copy or reproduce, or to cause to be copied or reproduced, such photo or video or recording of sexual act or any similar activity with or without consideration;

 

(c ) To sell or distribute, or cause to be sold or distributed, such photo or video or recording of sexual act, whether it be the original copy or reproduction thereof; or

(d) To publish or broadcast, or cause to be published or broadcast, whether in print or broadcast media, or show or exhibit the photo or video coverage or recordings of such sexual act or any similar activity through VCD/DVD, internet, cellular phones and other similar means or device.

 

Kung babasahin natin ang letter (a) ng Section 4 ng RA 9995 hiwalay yung "performing sexual act or any similar activity" sa "to capture an image of the private area of a person/s such as the naked or undergarment clad genitals, public area, buttocks or female breast". Lumalabas na dalawang magkaibang gawain ang pinaparusahan sa letter (a), at ito ay dahil sa salitang "or" na naghihiwalay sa dalawang parirala na iyon.

 

ANG PROBLEMA...

 

pagdating sa letter (b ) at (d), ang pinaparusahan na lang ay yung gawain kaugnay sa "performing sexual act or any similar activity". Mas malala, sa letter ©, naging "sexual act" na lang, pati yung similar activity NAWALA.

 

Ngayon, ang binabanggit mo na di-umano'y kriminal na gawain ay ang paggamit lang ng larawan ng hubad na babae, na PARANG saklaw sa letter (d) ng RA 9995. Kaya lang, hindi ito nasa akto ng pagtatalik o kahalintulad na gawain, na klarong pinaparusahan sa letter (d).

 

Ngayon, kapag may doubt sa application ng batas, ang doubt ay dapat kumiling sa akusado. Kaya, dahil may pagdududa kung saklaw nga ang pag-publish ng "image of the private area of a person/s" sa pinaparusahan ng batas, dapat HINDI ito saklaw.

 

Ngunit, subalit, datapwa't...

 

ang talagang makakapagsabi lamang kung saklaw nga ang publication ng "image of the private area of a person/s" sa letter (b ). (c ), at (d) ng Section 4, RA 9995 ay ang Korte Suprema. Bago pa ang RA 9995 at di pa umaabot ang issue na ito sa pinakamataas na hukuman. Sa palagay ko, sa lebel ng piskalya o sa RTC, baka umasenso ang kaso. Kaya, ang sabi ko "it could".

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Atty I just want to know your opinion on this.Meron kasing gm dito na gumagamit ng ibat ibang pictures ng mga babae sa profile pic nya and some of them nakahubad pa. And these are not celebrity pics atty but private individuals.Kung wala pong consent yung mga babaeng nasa profile pic nya na gamitin yung pictures nila as profile pic nitong gm and I doubt that there is, papasok po ba yan sa anti cyber crime law? VAWC? Any other applicable laws?

I hope to hear from u soon atty.Thanks in advance.Have a good day.

I-enjoy na lang natin yung profile pics tutal ikaw na nagsabi, gm, yan. :)

 

Btw, ano handle nya para makita ko rin hehe.

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