Pinoymale Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 good day maesters! i have a gurl friend who has a lesbian ex. during their rel, pinagbgyan ng friend ko ung ex nya na kunan sya ng nude sa cam fone. everytime na ngaaway cla ung pic ang gingwang panakot nung lesbian sa knya. ngayon na gus2 ng mkipagbreak ng friend ko, gnon na nman.. tnatakot sya na ikakalat ung nga pics nya. pde bang kasuhan ung ex nya? Since it can be argued that the act of distributing the nude pics is a crime in itself, then making that threat constitutes Grave Threats under Art. 282 of the Revised Penal Code. Quote Link to comment
rocco69 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 "Ignorance of the Law excuses no one from compliance therewith." Does this law apply to all? Exempted ba dito ang mga turistang bumibisita sa Pinas? o yung mga taong bulag, pipi, at bingi? Nag-aapply ito sa lahat, ma-turista man o bulag, pipi, at bingi (ito ay Article 3 ng Civil Code of the Philippines). Sabi nga ni Mayor Lim, "The law applies to all, or none at all". Quote Link to comment
Dr_PepPeR Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 ^ pero limitado ang capacity to act ng mga yun, dba?... For the blind, deaf and dumb, limited capacity only for certain specific acts, like for example being a witness to a will, but in general the law does not discrimminate. Quote Link to comment
ejomc Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 mga bossing kelangan ko ng tulong hehehe yung pinsdan ko may maid sila nagwork na sakanila yun for 6years nanghihinge ng seperation and overtime pay daw kasi late daw minsan magpatulog nanghihinge ng 40,000 as seperation tapus hindi nila bnigyan. instead bingyan lang nila ng 10,000 as financial assistance daw. after few days nagpadala yung sulat sa kanila na nirerequest mag punta sa department of labor. parang ayaw na nila pumunta kasi hindi naman daw sila required sabi ng lawyer nila. tama ba yung ginawa nila? ano bang puede ko iadvice sa kanila? Quote Link to comment
Google Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 mga bossing kelangan ko ng tulong hehehe yung pinsdan ko may maid sila nagwork na sakanila yun for 6years nanghihinge ng seperation and overtime pay daw kasi late daw minsan magpatulog nanghihinge ng 40,000 as seperation tapus hindi nila bnigyan. instead bingyan lang nila ng 10,000 as financial assistance daw. after few days nagpadala yung sulat sa kanila na nirerequest mag punta sa department of labor. parang ayaw na nila pumunta kasi hindi naman daw sila required sabi ng lawyer nila. tama ba yung ginawa nila? ano bang puede ko iadvice sa kanila? May contract ba yung maid sa kanila detailing payment of overtime and separation pay? Yung sulat ba eh galing mismo sa DOLE? tapang din nung maid ah.... hehehehehe. binigyan na ng financial assistance, naghahabol pa ng separation pay.... hehehehe. Quote Link to comment
complicated8 Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 mga masters, follow-up lang po? inquiry with training contracts..... meron na yata mga co-maker for these? is that really enforceable? Quote Link to comment
azayco Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 mga masters, follow-up lang po? inquiry with training contracts..... meron na yata mga co-maker for these? is that really enforceable? Provide more details please. What is a training contract?Who are the parties?What is a co-maker? Quote Link to comment
complicated8 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Provide more details please. What is a training contract?Who are the parties?What is a co-maker? training contract is offered by company to let you go on training locally or overseas with aspects of monetary compensation if conditions are not fulfilled. Conditions such as stay with the company for x number of years. or pro-rated for the years versus the cost of training/travel/etc. Parties are company, employee, co-maker. Co-maker is a co-signee and someone who can legally be sued for non-compliance to contract terms between employee and employer. Quote Link to comment
azayco Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 It's hard to give an opinion without reading through the contract, but I'll take a shot using general principles. The employer and employee freely entered into a contract. The "co-maker" also voluntarily acceded to the contract (although I guess it is limited to the monetary penalties for breach of contract). The contract is therefore binding on all three persons. The "co-maker" is liable under the contract. He will have to check the extent of his liability. He can be liable immediately and primarily, i.e., the employer can go after him without going after the employee first. He can also be liable only if the employer goes after the employee first and finds out that the employee has no or insufficient property to pay of the monetary penalties. Either way, if the "co-maker" pays up, he can go after the employee for reimbursement. There are a lot of decisions on this arrangement, but I am not sure if there is one directly dealing on an employer-employee set-up. The usual arrangement is that of a loan - lender, borrower, guarantor or surety. Nevertheless, the basics remain the same - there is a binding contract. I do not see any reason why its provisions cannot be enforced. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment
mazinger Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 guys. any info on when do we get a P 20.00 increase in our workers salary her ein metro manila? curious lang ako kung kailan. Quote Link to comment
azayco Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 There are news that the wage Order takes effect today, June 14, 2008. On the other hand, I have not seen the wage order published in the papers yet. So wait and see muna. It appears that labor reps are objecting to one provision in the wage order. Quote Link to comment
binoe25 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 any query about legal problems...? wag kang mahiya.. free legal advise ni Butsoy...sir, how much would it cost kung magpa file ako ng legal separation? Quote Link to comment
Dr Love Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 First of all there must be a contract specifying these things you mentioned. As far as I know, yung sa SSS and sa Philhealth lang ang legal requirement that covers househelp. Moreover, any case regarding non-payment of benefits as claimed is filled with the National Labor Relations Commission and not the DOLE itself. If its a legal summon or subpoena, its prudent to look into into just to be sure what is it all about. The financial assistance they gave is already commendable since nothing in our laws labor or otherwise dictates such. Hope that helps. mga bossing kelangan ko ng tulong hehehe yung pinsdan ko may maid sila nagwork na sakanila yun for 6years nanghihinge ng seperation and overtime pay daw kasi late daw minsan magpatulog nanghihinge ng 40,000 as seperation tapus hindi nila bnigyan. instead bingyan lang nila ng 10,000 as financial assistance daw. after few days nagpadala yung sulat sa kanila na nirerequest mag punta sa department of labor. parang ayaw na nila pumunta kasi hindi naman daw sila required sabi ng lawyer nila. tama ba yung ginawa nila? ano bang puede ko iadvice sa kanila? Quote Link to comment
Dr Love Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Having a co-maker for training contracts is possible but have not actually seen or heard of one actually having such a provision. Normal practice is the training contract is entered into by the company and the employee directly. Contracts that normally has a co-maker included are those which has direct monetary or service accrual involved like loans. In case of training, wala kasi. I will be amazed if there are companies who indeed include a co-maker provision for training contract and will appreciate to know the name of that company. mga masters, follow-up lang po? inquiry with training contracts..... meron na yata mga co-maker for these? is that really enforceable? Quote Link to comment
Dr Love Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 NCR Wage Order #14 took effect yesterday, June 14, 2008 since it was formally published in newspapers of general circulation last May 30, 2008. Moreover, the actual increase will only be additional P15 on the basic daily salary plus a P5 per day ECOLA effective yesterday making the minimum wage for NCR at P377/day + P 5 ECOLA. By August 28, 2008 however, the P5 ECOLA will be incorporated again with the basic salary and effectively making the minimum wage at P 382/day. You can go to the DOLE website to get a copy of the actual wage order though the Implementing Guidelines are still not available to date. guys. any info on when do we get a P 20.00 increase in our workers salary her ein metro manila? curious lang ako kung kailan. Quote Link to comment
complicated8 Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 (edited) It's hard to give an opinion without reading through the contract, but I'll take a shot using general principles. The employer and employee freely entered into a contract. The "co-maker" also voluntarily acceded to the contract (although I guess it is limited to the monetary penalties for breach of contract). The contract is therefore binding on all three persons. The "co-maker" is liable under the contract. He will have to check the extent of his liability. He can be liable immediately and primarily, i.e., the employer can go after him without going after the employee first. He can also be liable only if the employer goes after the employee first and finds out that the employee has no or insufficient property to pay of the monetary penalties. Either way, if the "co-maker" pays up, he can go after the employee for reimbursement. There are a lot of decisions on this arrangement, but I am not sure if there is one directly dealing on an employer-employee set-up. The usual arrangement is that of a loan - lender, borrower, guarantor or surety. Nevertheless, the basics remain the same - there is a binding contract. I do not see any reason why its provisions cannot be enforced. Hope that helps. Thanks! problem here is that the co-maker didn't benefit anything from the contract so how is he/she liable?what if pinipilit lang ng employer to get a co-maker? Can co-makers refuse to sign this? That's why I'm questioning the enforceability of this contract. Edited June 15, 2008 by complicated8 Quote Link to comment
rocco69 Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Thanks! problem here is that the co-maker didn't benefit anything from the contract so how is he/she liable?what if pinipilit lang ng employer to get a co-maker? Can co-makers refuse to sign this? That's why I'm questioning the enforceability of this contract. Kahit walang benefit sa iyo, kung pumirma ka, may liability ka. Kung ayaw mong magka-liability, di ka dapat pumirma. The person being requested to act as co-maker can refuse. Din naman valid kung pinuwersa ang co-maker to sign. Kaya nga lang, kung pumayag siyang pumirma, kahit may agam-agam siya, mabisa pa rin na pagpayag ito at pwedeng i-enforce laban sa kanya ang contract. Quote Link to comment
legalavatar Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Kahit walang benefit sa iyo, kung pumirma ka, may liability ka. Kung ayaw mong magka-liability, di ka dapat pumirma. The person being requested to act as co-maker can refuse. Din naman valid kung pinuwersa ang co-maker to sign. Kaya nga lang, kung pumayag siyang pumirma, kahit may agam-agam siya, mabisa pa rin na pagpayag ito at pwedeng i-enforce laban sa kanya ang contract. dude nice signature.... dura lex sed sex.... hehehe... i'm no latin expert pero i think the correct latin translation for "the law is hard but mine is harder" is dura lex, durius est :-) cheers bro... hope i was able to help Quote Link to comment
Dr_PepPeR Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 (edited) dude nice signature.... dura lex sed sex.... hehehe... i'm no latin expert pero i think the correct latin translation for "the law is hard but mine is harder" is dura lex, durius est :-) cheers bro... hope i was able to help Our favorite phrase during my time was "DURA LEX PYREX" Edited June 15, 2008 by Dr_PepPeR Quote Link to comment
Dr_PepPeR Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Having a co-maker for training contracts is possible but have not actually seen or heard of one actually having such a provision. Normal practice is the training contract is entered into by the company and the employee directly. Contracts that normally has a co-maker included are those which has direct monetary or service accrual involved like loans. In case of training, wala kasi. I will be amazed if there are companies who indeed include a co-maker provision for training contract and will appreciate to know the name of that company. I also haven't seen a training contract that has a co-maker requirement. The only reason I can think of is a training contract with a penalty clause. Usually, if there is an employee-employer relationship, and the company agrees to fund the training expenses, the employee availing of the training is required to serve a certain period before he or she can resign. If the employee violates this, then the employee is required to pay for all or part of the expenses for training. In pre-employment contracts, I've heard that some companies require "training" before an employee is accepted. There is a contract which states that if the candidate fails to pass an exam or does not complete the training, the candidate will be required to pay a certain sum to defray the training costs. For both instances, it may be possible that the company requires a co-maker to serve as a guarantor if the trainee does not fulfill the training contract. I guess it would seem manifestly unfair to the guarantor or co-maker, especially if there is no gain derived from it, but I think it would be enforceable. Not that I agree with it, especially if the training is pre-employment, as it can be used unscrupulously as a money-making venture for the company. Quote Link to comment
legalavatar Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 i agree with everyone here... the term really is not "enforceable" because in the strict legal sense, a contract can both be valid but unenforceable... yes the employer can sue you... the contract is valid.... if the co-maker signed with you, he can be sued as well.... i have several clients whose contracts have similar features..... i suggest you honor the contract... cheers! Quote Link to comment
complicated8 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 so if you cannot make a co-maker sign because he/she doesn't want to be liable, what can you do? I think ito yung hindi alam ng mga prospective employees eh. gusto nila yung job pero does the employer have the right to dismiss you if you cannot have a co-maker to sign the contract? Quote Link to comment
huntforredoctober Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Seeking expert advice, got my girlfriend pregnant, problem is she's still married though she's living independently from her husband, we don't want to abort the child since its against our values. I read that adultery cases are punishable with imprisonment. Also read that there's a clause that as long as we don't cohabit I shouldn't worry on spending time in jail. Is this true? Also another concern is what becomes of her since as far as what I have read, the law is very strict on women when it comes to this subject. Hope someone can enlighten me on this and provide guidance regarding the issue. Thanks. Quote Link to comment
legalavatar Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) Seeking expert advice, got my girlfriend pregnant, problem is she's still married though she's living independently from her husband, we don't want to abort the child since its against our values. I read that adultery cases are punishable with imprisonment. Also read that there's a clause that as long as we don't cohabit I shouldn't worry on spending time in jail. Is this true? Also another concern is what becomes of her since as far as what I have read, the law is very strict on women when it comes to this subject. Hope someone can enlighten me on this and provide guidance regarding the issue. Thanks. If your girlfriend and his husband are in good terms, you do not have a problem. Only the husband can file an adultery case and if he does not want to file, then your worries are over. If your girlfriend and her husband have some form of arrangement to get on with their lives separately, living freely to enter into relationships with others, then this may be construed as consent which likewise precludes the husband from filing a criminal case. While such arrangements are really prohibited and void, they are valid defenses in adultery suits. Of course, you have to prove that the arrangement exists. In adultery, one act of intercourse with a married women, with knowledge of such fact, is enough to constitute the crime of adultery. Cohabitation is only an issue in concubinage, but never in adultery. You may have misread the Penal Code or read the wrong provision. Yes the law is strict on women when it comes to adultery. That's what we get for having an almost all-male cast of legislators. But mind you, you also stand to be liable with your girlfriend for the crime, so make sure that your girlfriend and her husband are in good terms or at the very least, have some form of arrangement in their separation. FYI, separation de facto only lowers the penalty for adultery. Cheers! Edited June 17, 2008 by legalavatar Quote Link to comment
Dr_PepPeR Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 so if you cannot make a co-maker sign because he/she doesn't want to be liable, what can you do? I think ito yung hindi alam ng mga prospective employees eh. gusto nila yung job pero does the employer have the right to dismiss you if you cannot have a co-maker to sign the contract? You can't force someone to be your guarantor, and personally I avoid being a co-maker. In short, you can't do anything if you cannot convince someone to be a co-maker. As to prospective employees, they have a choice. Either they get a co-maker or they look for employment elsewhere. Is it fair? Maybe not but that's the way life goes. Quote Link to comment
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