N F L - National Football League

[denimhead]

theres the HOF ....but im sure he'll get voted in .. by the time he retires spygate wouldve been forgotten .. not his multipled ring fingers

 

 

and i think the media miss out on the real story a lot of the time ... they report the stories but a few of them really understand what theyre talking about

Edited January 11, 2008 by denimhead

[cheeselogger]

I wouldn't stand in the way of him going to the HOF in the future even with his accomplishments as of the moment but the NFL at some point should start acting a bit more with a iron fist...

 

aside from baseball, I think NFL has a lot of drug-users that are very much alarming especially as most of them if not all are looked up by next generation...

[gift_of_game]

^it's not the National Felons' League for nothing

[denimhead]

besides the HGH w/c as of now cannot be tested for .. the NFL has drug testing and a strict policy on offenders ... Travis Henry tested positive and while he is appealing it looks like he will be suspended next year .. they also test for marijuana w/c i dont think helps in an athlete's performance

Edited January 11, 2008 by denimhead

[denimhead]

thats how strict they are

[cheeselogger]

thats how strict they are

 

strict? and they just let the Pat's and Bellichick get away with just a fine without any suspensions?

[Guernica]

strict? and they just let the Pat's and Bellichick get away with just a fine without any suspensions?

I won't exactly call $750,000 just a fine.

[cheeselogger]

for highly paid people like pro athletes, including coaches, it is just a fine...

[gift_of_game]

^well, FYI, who "helped" railroad Goodell's ascent to power?

Robert Kraft

and that's pretty much why the Warden went easy on the Pats.

 

it doesn't matter anyway.

if you go 16-0, that's what people are gonna remember.

[Guernica]

^well, FYI, who "helped" railroad Goodell's ascent to power?

Robert Kraft

and that's pretty much why the Warden went easy on the Pats.

 

it doesn't matter anyway.

if you go 16-0, that's what people are gonna remember.

The same way Senator Mitchell went easy on the Red Sox

[Metz]

IMHO, the AP awarded Bill Belichick the COY award simply because of his coaching...his team went 16-0 and became the first team in NFL history to do so...he preaches the following things to his team: hardwork, dedication, teamwork, focus, mental toughness, quick situational decision making, and most of all, humility....he preached it so hard, the formerly primadonna Randy Moss was viewed like a saint this year...these are things i look into when i watch ball games, when i root for a team...i look for the things that they do well and the positive things they have...

 

People will always see and use Spygate as the sole factor why Belichick shouldn't have won the COY award...but that's why the AP is the AP....because as press people, they are preached and taught not to be biased and judge winners by merit, not failure...to see the positives, and not the singular negative...to view the whole as a whole, and not the spot in the whole...that's why they are tasked to do the voting, not the large percentage of people who rode Spygate like it was monumental...like it had to do largely of what Belichick has done for his team...like it was the only thing that mattered, no matter how good and fair they play...

 

the fact that it was more of a violation of a rule than a grave offense like game fixing or bribing, specifically illegal only by the location it was done (they are allowed to tape as long as they do it in a spot enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead and not on the sidelines, press box or in the locker room within the game), much like cussing the official in a basketball game (which can penalize a player a technical foul, but not all players are whistled for it), it simply didn't gave the pats the advantage to go 16-0...the violation didn't measure the way Belichick coached...what he did (violated the rules), he paid for...what he did (coach his team), he was rewarded for...

 

Let's all have fun watching the games...

Edited January 11, 2008 by Metz

[denimhead]

strict? and they just let the Pat's and Bellichick get away with just a fine without any suspensions?

 

i was talking about the drug policy

[denimhead]

well americans aren't as strict when you compare them to the euros

 

mclaren F1 got fined USD100 million, and was excluded from the championship race

several tour de france cyclists got disqualified due to doping

 

sa NFL, NBA at TNA () suspensions lang

 

but didnt mclaren have schematics? i havent really kept up to date with that scandal ... but from what ive read they got schematics of their opponent's car .. thats like getting the play call sheet for sunday's match up...

 

the PATS got caught videotaping play calls .. and analyzing it during the game .. not getting the Jet's playbook for their game

 

i agree the Pats got a slap on the wrist .. the league shldve spanked em harder .. but it is hard to argue against a team that kept breaking records after theyve been called out .. the nfl now is difft from what it was back in the days ... in the late 80's and 90's some big lineman wouldve knocked brady out .. or a safety wouldve clotheslined randy moss.. as unofficial "league" punishment for disrespecting the game ... like they say "lets settle this out in the field"

[stormgray]

Good going, Metz. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Everyone else can tape the opposing team, but not from the sidelines. In fact, the Pats complained about the Jets doing some taping last year as well without NE's consent, so I think much of Mangini's snitching was aimed to get back at his former boss. I really don't understand why this new rule about taping was even instituted by the NFL. It doesn't really give an advantage to the team taping the opposing side. There are ways by which a team can change their plays--audibles and the like, so there isn't any distinct advantage to be had from taping. Besides, the Pats were caught taping during the first quarter of the first game of the season! It's not as if they gained something out of that!

[gift_of_game]

^I never really got that part as to why Pats fans defended and continue to defend Hoodie's actions.

 

I mean c'mon.

 

You got yourself a good club, now arguably the best in the history of the game.

and by all accounts, you're a pretty good coach, again, arguably one of the best minds in the game.

 

Then why go out on a limb and do something stupid?

If you really didn't stand to gain anything from it, why the f#&k would you bother to do it in the first place?

If it's really all about execution, most importantly yours, why bother stealing the other teams' signals?

Doesn't he trust his team, his staff and himself enough?

 

the fact is, well, he broke a rule. it shouldn't change things. and there's no way to sugarcoat it so yes, it smacked of cheating.

and if he's getting flak for that, well he deserves it.

 

but in the end, like you all say, this doesn't count anyway `coz no one can hold a candle next to a team that went 16-0.

winning is all that matters.