Duterte's Presidency : Expectations, Controversies, Rants, Etc.

[rooster69ph]

hay dsr, tantanan mo ako sa mga pagpapalusot/pagpapaikot mo ...

para ka na rin si idol duterte ...

wala ka na rin talagang isang salita

[camiar]

 

... ang isyu dito natupad ba ang sinabing “ i will end endo”. simple lang naman ang sagot ... oo o hindi.

 

I support most of PRRD's administration policies, but I do not support the moves to stop the practice of hiring on 5-month renewable contracts or popularly known as "endo". I don't agree that it should be totally stopped.

 

Contract hiring gives businessmen the flexibility in doing business especially when starting a business during unstable economic environment.

 

I agree with those who say that total ban on contractualization will actually worsen the unemployment situation.

 

I think PRRD has realized this that's why he is no longer keen on stopping "endo".

 

Now, what is your problem? Are you in favor of total ban on contractualization?

Edited May 12, 2018 by camiar

[rooster69ph]

I support most of PRRD's administration policies, but I do not support the moves to stop the practice of hiring on 5-month renewable contracts or popularly known as "endo". I don't agree that it should be totally stopped.

 

Contract hiring gives businessmen the flexibility in doing business especially when starting a business during unstable economic environment.

 

I agree with those who say that total ban on contractualization will actually worsen the unemployment situation.

 

I think PRRD has realized this that's why he is no longer keen on stopping "endo".

 

Now, what is your problem? Are you in favor of total ban on contractualization?

i share your POV...which is why from the start i believe it is impossible to do that (totally end endo). but he promise it at yun mga tards diyan sinakyan at binibidang kayang gawin ito ni duterte. fine kung ganun, so accountability check lang tayo sa ngayon. naglabas ng EO ang presidente, may isang tard na ibinida so tinanung ko with the EO natupad na ba ang pangakong to end endo? siyempre di makasagot ng diretcho yun pobre pati na rin yun mga nagsilabasang kampon na pilit idinidepensa ang kanilang lodi. hindi masagot ng tuwirang “ oo o hindi” kundi ang sinasabi pwede na kasi may ginawa naman.

 

funny dati sa kampanya ang tigas ng bitaw ng i will end endo ...now if as you said the president realizes he will no longer stop endo (o baka naman sa simula pa lang alam na niya talaga pero pinasasakay lang niya bobotante like a tradpol), parang nanahimik at walang balls to retract. naipit siguro yun bayag sa lalamunan.

[camiar]

i share your POV...which is why from the start i believe it is impossible to do that (totally end endo). but he promise it ....

 

Not all promises needs to be fulfilled, especially if there are compelling reasons why the promise should be broken.

 

If you share my point of view, you should have advocated instead that the President break his promise on "endo", and should now be glad that he did not pursue the total ban.

 

You arguments just show that you want him in a Catch 22 -- damn if he did, damn if he don't.

[will robie]

Duterte is doing something about the "endo" while the whiners and mirons in this thread are whining shallowly that he promised it. Abnoy promised that he would have an MRT train run over him if the operations didn't improve. I didn't see these same whiners complain about it. Duterte already signed an executive order regarding "endo" but if "endo" is to be ended permanently, there has to be a law that has to be crafted. Duterte is not the legislative wing of the government unless he declared a revolutionary government.

Edited May 13, 2018 by will robie

[rooster69ph]

Not all promises needs to be fulfilled, especially if there are compelling reasons why the promise should be broken.

 

If you share my point of view, you should have advocated instead that the President break his promise on "endo", and should now be glad that he did not pursue the total ban.

 

You arguments just show that you want him in a Catch 22 -- damn if he did, damn if he don't.

well lets put it this way...promises should have never been made if right from the start it is undoable unless say something uncontrollable came up which affects the situation. that’s part of accountability. like in the corporate world you just dont promise the moon and the the stars when you submit your KRAs. aba’y mahihiritan ka ng boss mo na dapat pinagisipan mo muna maige yan bago mo sinabi o pinangako specially if the factors to consider have been there since the start.

 

but obviously aminin na ninyong mga minions ni duterte na namulitika ang presidente like a tradpol nun panahon ng kampanya. pero sige nandun na tayo so the least he can do is be man enough to admit a broken promise. admit na siguro hindi niya napagaralan ng maige nun nangako siya. kaso hindi eh, parang pinamumukha pa na ayan o tinupad na ng pangulo ang pangako at yun mga tards all out na kakonchaba sa panguuto. aba double whammy yan.

 

in other words tanggap ko yun endo will still be there, non issue yan kasi that is the reality. ang di ko matanggap di na nga natupad yun pinangako manlilinlang pa ang pamahalaan kasama ang mga tards para pogi pa din si duterte. ano ito gaguhan lang?

[rooster69ph]

if "endo" is to be ended permanently, there has to be a law that has to be crafted. Duterte is not the legislative wing of the government unless he declared a revolutionary government.

 

said argument just validates the stupidity of the president at its finest.

 

that is a fact from the start ...he should have known better before he promise to totally end endo during the campaign. palibhasa na put on the spot at gustong makakuha ng pogi points ang savvy but pasimpleng tradpol na ito.

 

so if he really wanted to keep his promise why not then declare a revgov now? kaya naman niya kung gusto niya di ba kahit may tumututol para matupad niya ang pangako kaysa mapako. afterall he is the president.

[will robie]

said argument just validates the stupidity of the president at its finest.

How is his stupidity validated?

 

that is a fact from the start ...he should have known better before he promise to totally end endo during the campaign. palibhasa na put on the spot at gustong makakuha ng pogi points ang savvy but pasimpleng tradpol na ito.

 

so if he really wanted to keep his promise why not then declare a revgov now? kaya naman niya kung gusto niya di ba kahit may tumututol para matupad niya ang pangako kaysa mapako. afterall he is the president.

 

Yes, he promised something and he is doing something about it by signing the executive order for "endo". Are you basing your argument on a promise? Bakit si Duterte ba ang binoto mo and you are holding him accountable to this? You are anti-Duterte and your argument is shallow based on a promise. Magrally ka kasama ng mga leftists sa harap ng Malacanang. Baka may chance pa mapakinggan ang hinain mo.

 

 

[rooster69ph]

You arguments just show that you want him in a Catch 22 -- damn if he did, damn if he don't.

wrong! he himself put him in a catch 22 when he made that promise to totally end endo without thinking about it thoroughly. remember there are two groups that will be affected ..,the interest of the employers and employees. we both agree there should be a balance between the two.

 

in hindsight, pwede naman kasi sinagot na lang niya in such a way na kapag nanalo siya bilang presidente aatasan niya ang dole na pagaralan ang issue ng endo para makapaglabas ng mga alituntunin na makasigurong hindi naaagrabyado ang karapatan ng mga manggagawa at hindi rin ito ikasasama ng negosyo ng mga employers na baka magmulat ng mas malaking problema tulad ng mass layoff. pero siyempre mas mahina ang impact nito sa mga botanteng madali niyang napaasa dun sa kanyang naunang binitawang salita.

[rooster69ph]

How is his stupidity validated?

 

 

 

Yes, he promised something and he is doing something about it by signing the executive order for "endo". Are you basing your argument on a promise? Bakit si Duterte ba ang binoto mo and you are holding him accountable to this? You are anti-Duterte and your argument is shallow based on a promise. Magrally ka kasama ng mga leftists sa harap ng Malacanang. Baka may chance pa mapakinggan ang hinain mo.

 

cut the crap ... the EO or whatever he has done so far will not and never will totally end endo as promised. that is a fact! live with it.

 

ipinakiwanag ko na nga itatanong mo pa ulit paano navalidate yun stupidity ng presidente. get your act straight before you even play hero by defending your lodi.

 

saka ka na bumalik sa akin kapag mapapatunayan mo na na he did totally end endo through the EO. otherwise its just a waste of time arguing with you and your irrational opinion.

Edited May 13, 2018 by rooster69ph

[camiar]

 

Not all promises needs to be fulfilled, especially if there are compelling reasons why the promise should be broken.

 

If you share my point of view, you should have advocated instead that the President break his promise on "endo", and should now be glad that he did not pursue the total ban.

 

You arguments just show that you want him in a Catch 22 -- damn if he did, damn if he don't.

 

 

well lets put it this way...promises should have never been made if right from the start it is undoable unless say something uncontrollable came up

 

 

If he thought it was doable when he promised it, that's understandable. Take note, his anti-"endo" campaign platform was actually established by his political allies in the labor sector.

 

Now that he is President, he has access to more information about the issue, especially from the business sector, which can prod him to change his POV.

 

Now back to my question.

 

What is your problem if the President did not put a total ban on endo?

 

Do you want him to make an unwise decision just because he made such a promise during the elections?

 

Or do you want him to do it so that you can criticize him some more for an unwise move?

Edited May 13, 2018 by camiar

[rooster69ph]

If he thought it was doable when he promised it, that's understandable.

he thought it was doable when he promise it? are you trying to pull a fast one. wag mo akong paikutin. abugado ang presidente alam niya ang batas .... ano yan naipit na kaya para madepensahan ilalabas na yun trump card ...magtatangatangahan na.

 

buti sana kung sa endo lang ... ilan bang pinagsasabi niya nun panahon ng kampanya ang alam nating pare-parehong mobalabs pero at that time his minions try to capitalize on them kasi may will power daw si duterte. o ngayon yun will pow£r eh sa pagpapalusot na lang

[camiar]

he thought it was doable when he promise it? are you trying to pull a fast one. wag mo akong paikutin. abugado ang presidente alam niya ang batas .... ano yan naipit na kaya para madepensahan ilalabas na yun trump card ...magtatangatangahan na.

 

buti sana kung sa endo lang ... ilan bang pinagsasabi niya nun panahon ng kampanya ang alam nating pare-parehong mobalabs pero at that time his minions try to capitalize on them kasi may will power daw si duterte. o ngayon yun will pow£r eh sa pagpapalusot na lang

The endo issue is not just about the legality of it.

 

There are also the business, technical, political, and economic issues to consider. And as I said, it is his party's political allies from labor sector who insisted on the total ban as their campaign promise.

 

Back to my question. What is your problem with the President's decision not to pursue the total ban on endo? Be careful when you answer this question. You might end up contradicting yourself. Or is it the reason you are ignoring my question?

Edited May 13, 2018 by camiar

[rooster69ph]

The endo issue is not just about the legality of it.

 

There are also the business, technical, political, and economic issues to consider. And as I said, it is his party's political allies from labor sector who insisted on the total ban as their campaign promise.

 

 

 

mismo nga hindi naman tayo nagtatalo diyan ... kaya nga ang sinasabi ko hindi niya dapat pinangako lalu na’t di napagisipan ng maige. nagisip muna sana siya kung may magagawa ba siya talaga o wala. kahit na political allies niya ang may gusto siya ang tumatakbong presidente, siya ang mangangako at siya ang magiging accountable. kaya nasa kanya ang responsibilidad humindi o sabihin hindi ito nararapat dahil hindi ito feasible. eh trapo din eh namulitika ayan ang kinahihitnan di ba? kayo naman kung kanikanino ninyo gusto isisi para abswelto ang pangulo at manatilng mabango. mahirap nga naman mabutasan at baka magtuloy-tuloy ang pagsadsad dahil unti-unti nang naglalabasan katotohanan

 

bottomline, since nagawa na niyang mangako why not be man enough to admit it? na nagkamali siya sa pinangakong he will totally end endo. the gov’t should not sugar coat and tell the public na with the EO naisakatuparan na ng pangulo yun pinangako niya. naglolokohan ba tayo? moreso, why not tell all his other minions most specially in this thread to stop defending him on this broken promise. simple lang naman yan aminin na wlang kakayahan talaga ang presidente to totally end endo at ito’y isang pangakong napako at mapapako end of argument diba. yun ang issue at yun argumento plain and simple. kahit na sabihin pa ninyo may ginagawa naman at kung anu-anong alibi at kung kani-kanino ninyo pa isisi yan the fact is it did not put to a stop endo. agree o disagree? yan ang tanggapin ninyo...yun ang pinupunto dito. kaya nga sabi ko kay dsr nakuha ko na yun sagot na hinahanap ko sa mga tard ... yun sinabi niya at inaming nangako lang ito ng langit at lupa, walang pinagkaiba sa mga tradpol.

 

alam mo unang reply ko pa lang sa iyo sinagot ko na kung ano ba talaga saloobin ko pero makulit ka din eh. paulit-ulit mong tinatanong ano ang issue ko. makulit ka rin ano po o dahil iba ang objective mo talaga. lumang style na yan ng mga paid trolls ... yun mga social media troll ng pangulo na paiikot-ikutin ang isyu tapos ililihis para sa huli napunta na sa tumutuligsa ang isyu. nice try camiar...yan naman ang objective mo. try harder next time.

[camiar]

^^^ eh ano nga problema mo?

 

Ayaw mo sa total ban ng contractualization. The President thought it unwise to pursue a total ban. So he backed down. Ngayon wala nang total ban.

 

OK na ba sa yo, o hindi pa rin?

Edited May 13, 2018 by camiar