Apo Marcos : Facts And Myths

[camiar]

 

If SC reverse the decision it will not be in the record that she is a convicted criminal diba?

Most probable scenario is that at her age, Imelda will fade away and die from old age while the case is still under review by SC. She will most probably not go to jail. And she will likely die without a guilty verdict on her record.

Kawawa naman si TK421. She won't be able to move on with her life.

[rooster69ph]

Most probable scenario is that at her age, Imelda will fade away and die from old age while the case is still under review by SC. She will most probably not go to jail. And she will likely die without a guilty verdict on her record.

 

Kawawa naman si TK421. She won't be able to move on with her life.

nagpapauso ka na naman...nagpapalaganap ka na naman ng fake news

 

kung sakali kaya nga napunta sa SC yun kaso kasi nahatulan/convicted na siya ng sandigan and na deny yun MFR niya.

 

anong pinagsasabi mong she will die without a guilty verdict IF she dies from old age while the case is under review. on the contrary if that happens she will die without getting acquitted.

[will robie]

nagpapauso ka na naman...nagpapalaganap ka na naman ng fake news

 

kung sakali kaya nga napunta sa SC yun kaso kasi nahatulan/convicted na siya ng sandigan and na deny yun MFR niya.

 

anong pinagsasabi mong she will die without a guilty verdict IF she dies from old age while the case is under review. on the contrary if that happens she will die without getting acquitted.

The fact of the matter is the conviction is not yet final and executory. The conviction can still be reversed in the same court or a higher court. camiar just painted a scenario that it goes all the way to the SC. It can't be fake news since that is his opinion. Sablay ka na naman.

[rooster69ph]

The fact of the matter is the conviction is not yet final and executory. The conviction can still be reversed in the same court or a higher court. camiar just painted a scenario that it goes all the way to the SC. It can't be fake news since that is his opinion. Sablay ka na naman.

another dumb argument ...finding some consolation in the argument that it is not yet final and executory.

 

the fact is she got convicted already. the only reason it is not yet final and executory is because the court still allows her to file a MFR. But anyone who uses his brains will understand that if the case did reach the SC was because the conviction was upheld by the Sandigan. so the conviction stays. but then she can still go to the SC to reverse the conviction.

 

isa lang ang tanong ko in the picture he painted was she acquitted by the SC? hence papaano masasabing she will die without a guilty record???

 

hahaha...pauso pa more mga loyalista ng kurakot

Edited November 12, 2018 by rooster69ph

[will robie]

another dumb argument ...finding some consolation in the argument that it is not yet final and executory.

 

the fact is she got convicted already. the only reason it is not yet final and executory is because the court still allows her to file a MFR. But anyone who uses his brains will understand that if the case did reach the SC was because the conviction was upheld by the Sandigan. so the conviction stays. but then she can still go to the SC to reverse the conviction.

 

isa lang ang tanong ko in the picture he painted was she acquitted by the SC? hence papaano masasabing she will die without a guilty record???

 

hahaha...pauso pa more mga loyalista ng kurakot

How can it be a dumb argument when it's a fact? Haha! How many times does your foot have to get stuck in your mouth?

 

Ano kamo? The only reason it is not final and executory is because the court still allows her to file an MR? Hahaha! This post shows your ignorance. It is a legal remedy and it is a defendant's right to file that, hence, it is not the only reason but one of the reasons because if the MR is rejected, there is still the SC. Your post is contradictory. First you say that filing the MR is the only reason it is not yet final and executory. Then in the next breath, you say that if the case reaches the SC is because the conviction was upheld by the Sandiganbayan. The second paragraph is a case of shooting yourself in the foot. You're getting confused.

 

Yellowtards seem to have this fixation of having one foot getting stuck in their mouths.

Edited November 12, 2018 by will robie

[rooster69ph]

Hoy robbie huwag kang magpaikot ...projecting wont get you anywhere of your dumb opinion.

 

Rubbish. Gumamit ka ng sentido kumon

 

Wag kang mamilosopo dahil alam natin parepareho na karapatan yan ng isang convicted sa batas na mag file ng MFR kaya nga ang sabi ng sandigan imelda convicted ka pero bibigyan kita ng 30 araw mag file ng apela. Kung di siya mag file then magiging final na yun. The same way kung mag file siya at motion denied pwede then siya pumunta sa SC.

 

Pero iisa lang naman ang isyu dito kung namatay si meldy magnanakaw na di pa sinasabi ng SC na ay nagkamali ang sandigan sa kanyang conviction namatay ba siya ng walang record? Sa record ng sandigan cinvicted pa rin si meldy mandarambong. The only fact here is that she died without being acquitted by the SC of her conviction

 

Nakakatawa ang mga loyalista

Ano na yun pinagsasabing walang na convict na marcos?

Nabubuhay sa pagkahibang pa rin

 

So sa ngayon hintay muna kayo magkatotoo na magkaroon ng acquittal from SC saka mo sabihin its a fact that she will die of no guilty record.

[will robie]

Haha! The yellowtard trying lamely to spin its post. You already shot yourself in the foot. Stop ranting convoluted nonsense. Hahaha! How am i projecting exactly? Stating a fact and totally vitiating what you posted is not projecting. Before using a word, make sure you know what it means. Hahaha!

Edited November 13, 2018 by will robie

[camiar]

Rooster,

 

An accused person who has the influence and means can always appeal the court's decision. If their lawyers are good at it, the case can be delayed indefinitely until the case is no longer relevant to the accused or to the court, paving its way to be reconsidered, revised, reversed, or be confirmed and executed --- by which time, as I said, it would be no longer be relevant.

 

It is relatively easier for Imelda's case because of her advanced age.

 

This is a fact of life in our country that you can't seem to wrap your mind around.

 

Just watch and learn.

Edited November 13, 2018 by camiar

[rooster69ph]

Lets keep this simple...

 

Fact:meldy was convicted

 

Myth: despite the conviction Meldy and SC not deciding on the matter she will die not having a guilty verdict on record.

 

Yeah...let us all watch and learn how these pakawalang loyalista ng mga magnanakaw try to revise history/facts.

[will robie]

I pity the yellow disciple who can’t accept the fact that the conviction is not yet final and executory. Don’t hold your breath, yellowtard. Haha!

[rooster69ph]

I pity the yellow disciple who cant accept the fact that the conviction is not yet final and executory. Dont hold your breath, yellowtard. Haha!

On the contrary i find it pathetic kung anu ano ang gusto mong palabasin.

 

Dati pag sinabing magnanakaw ang mga marcos ang yabang kung humirit ng loyalista ng mandarambong ... walang pang ni isang marcos ang na convict. Now nagkukubli na sa ... hindi pa final and executory ang conviction. Hahaha

 

I bet you cant/will refuse to answer the question below that will expose with finality your shitty arguments/opinions on this matter

 

 

Fact:may conviction na yun nga lang di pa ito final and executory dahil may legal remedies pa siya.

 

Tanong: Does it mean that since hindi pa ito final and executory eh sa mata ng sandiganbayan at sa batas eh malinis pa rin (not guilty) si imelda marcos specially if walang sinasabi pa ang SC na nagkamali ang sandigan sa kaniyang hatol at binabaligtad ang conviction?

Edited November 13, 2018 by rooster69ph

[jc44 - RETIRED]

Rooster,

 

An accused person who has the influence and means can always appeal the court's decision. If their lawyers are good at it, the case can be delayed indefinitely until the case is no longer relevant to the accused or to the court, paving its way to be reconsidered, revised, reversed, or be confirmed and executed --- by which time, as I said, it would be no longer be relevant.

 

It is relatively easier for Imelda's case because of her advanced age.

 

This is a fact of life in our country that you can't seem to wrap your mind around.

 

Just watch and learn.

 

Haven't heard of any jurisprudence where the convicted died during the pendency of an appeal, the appellate court continued to hear the appeal to determine criminal cuplpability and subsequently acquit the convicted. Death extinguishes the criminal liability, and renders the appeal moot and academic. So if Imelda dies during the pendency of her appeal, the conviction stands, even if she is never imprisoned.

 

But hey if you could provide a case that says otherwise, that would be great.

 

Not sure why the fixation is on whether or not Imelda will be jailed. I'm confident she won't, not with a police chief completely subservient to the Marcoses. Mas importante yung conviction. And sure, it isn't final and executory. But it's a step closer to a definitive legal and historical answer to the question that persists among the pro-Marcos: are the Marcoses guilty or not?

[tk421]

Well well well... bail has been forfeited and an arrest warrant has been ordered. Mug shot na!

 

Advanced age my ess. 79yo na nag shop lift kinukulong nga, eh. What a pathetic excuse.

 

The only reason she won't be jailed is that if this admin doesn't have the political will to follow the court's orders.

Edited November 13, 2018 by tk421

[will robie]

On the contrary i find it pathetic kung anu ano ang gusto mong palabasin.

How are exposing your utter ignorance and completely discrediting your post pathetic? You got mortified. Accept it.

Edited November 13, 2018 by will robie

[will robie]

Dati pag sinabing magnanakaw ang mga marcos ang yabang kung humirit ng loyalista ng mandarambong ... walang pang ni isang marcos ang na convict. Now nagkukubli na sa ... hindi pa final and executory ang conviction. Hahaha

Again, the verdict is not yet final and executory. Yes, mayabang pa din kami kasi hindi pa din final and executory. Reserve your celebration when the verdict is final and executory and the former first lady is put behind bars. I doubt though that it will happen. Haha!