We Are Awesome Thread

[rooster69ph]

Ang tanong nga.... anong ebidensya? nasan? pangkiskis lang ng puwit mga handouts ni Trillanes. Kahit sinong me computer kaya gumawa nun. At bakit ba di nya nilalabas si Joseph De Mesa? Ano totoong tao ba ito?

 

There is no need actually for this media circus. Reading the AMLA and anti-graft practices act, Duterte's bank accounts can be scrutinized IF PROBABLE CAUSE is established in spite of having RA1405. Yes sinabing ganun.... Promise

 

So ayun naman pala, all he really needed was prove me probable cause.... O ba't di nya magawa?

At this point there is no way to verify ... And only the bank itself can do that upon execution of a written waiver to 1405.

 

Pwede naman un sinasabi mo nasa handouts ay gawa gawa lang o pwede naman may isang taga loob ng bangko ang nag feed ng info at sinummarize or maaring kinopya ito sa original bank statement.

 

May pinagkaiba ba yan kapag nakita mo un cash ledger ng isang kumpanya without seeing the bank statement of the account. Can you at that point say with full certainty whether the figures or entries are true or gawa gawa lang.

[Edmund Dantes]

At this point there is no way to verify ... And only the bank itself can do that upon execution of a written waiver to 1405.

 

Pwede naman un sinasabi mo nasa handouts ay gawa gawa lang o pwede naman may isang taga loob ng bangko ang nag feed ng info at sinummarize or maaring kinopya ito sa original bank statement.

 

May pinagkaiba ba yan kapag nakita mo un cash ledger ng isang kumpanya without seeing the bank statement of the account. Can you at that point say with full certainty whether the figures or entries are true or gawa gawa lang.

 

Oh no no nooooooooo!

 

The AMLC can actually scrutinize the bank account NOTWITHSTANDING RA1405 (Yes AMLA says that!) should probable cause be established. Hahahaha. He does not need a waiver, only an established probable cause. Even the anti-graft practices act says something similar.

 

Ayun masyado naman pinalalaki yan kapangyarihan ng RA1405 na yan kasi lol.

 

Bakit ako magtuturo kung alin dyan totoo o hindi? Problema yan ni Trillanes dapat. Sya nagaakusa eh. Kung me matibay syang basehan, di get the court order. Kung wala, he should just stick his handouts up his ass for all we care!

[rooster69ph]

Oh no no nooooooooo!

 

The AMLC can actually scrutinize the bank account NOTWITHSTANDING RA1405 (Yes AMLA says that!) should probable cause be established. Hahahaha. He does not need a waiver, only an established probable cause. Even the anti-graft practices act says something similar.

 

Ayun masyado naman pinalalaki yan kapangyarihan ng RA1405 na yan kasi lol.

 

Bakit ako magtuturo kung alin dyan totoo o hindi? Problema yan ni Trillanes dapat. Sya nagaakusa eh. Kung me matibay syang basehan, di get the court order. Kung wala, he should just stick his handouts up his ass for all we care!

For me yes the burden of truth is with Trillanes kaso pinatulan niya eh. Kung seryoso at transparent siya at sinabi niyang magbibigay ng waiver then problema na niya din yan kung urong sulong siya at di maibigay yun waiver para matapos na ang issue. Nakakapagduda tuloy imbes na patayin ang issue.

 

The banks are supposed to report covered and suspicious transactions to the amlc. If the amlc finds probable cause then it files a case with the ombudsman or doj for further investigation.

 

Asa ka sa amlc at sa competency ng banking system natin sa pagrereport? Kaya nga tayo nalusutan nun hot money galing bangladesh.

Edited February 25, 2017 by rooster69ph

[Edmund Dantes]

For me yes the burden of truth is with Trillanes kaso pinatulan niya eh. Kung seryoso at transparent siya at sinabi niyang magbibigay ng waiver then problema na niya din yan kung urong sulong siya at di maibigay yun waiver para matapos na ang issue. Nakakapagduda tuloy imbes na patayin ang issue.

 

The banks are supposed to report covered and suspicious transactions to the amlc. If the amlc finds probable cause then it files a case with the ombudsman or doj for further investigation.

 

Asa ka sa amlc at sa competency ng banking system natin sa pagrereport? Kaya nga tayo nalusutan nun hot money galing bangladesh.

 

Eh pag hindi naman patulan? Admission of guilt na? Ganun na lang pala yun. Maglalabas ka ng walang basehan na paratang tapos ang presidente kelangan lagi ibigay hinihingi mga trolls? Sa dami nila, ano pang magagawang trabaho ng presidente. Tama yan! Yun nagaakusa sayo pahirapan mo. Bat ka utouto na susunod sa lahat ng hamon nya. Sya nagparatang sya nagpatunay.

 

SO ngayon are you saying huwag na lang gamitin ang batas at tamang proseso? Ganun na lang media circus na lang lagi

[rooster69ph]

Eh pag hindi naman patulan? Admission of guilt na? Ganun na lang pala yun. Maglalabas ka ng walang basehan na paratang tapos ang presidente kelangan lagi ibigay hinihingi mga trolls? Sa dami nila, ano pang magagawang trabaho ng presidente. Tama yan! Yun nagaakusa sayo pahirapan mo. Bat ka utouto na susunod sa lahat ng hamon nya. Sya nagparatang sya nagpatunay.

 

SO ngayon are you saying huwag na lang gamitin ang batas at tamang proseso? Ganun na lang media circus na lang lagi

Yeah right pahirapan ang trolls at bakit utuuto? hahaha what a lame excuse .... The fact of the matter is humirit siya na magbibigay ng waiver probably just to show the people he is clean ang transparent. Kaya nga pinapunta pa niya si Panelo sa bangko na may spa. Pero mr president malinaw naman sa batas na waiver ang kailangan at yun din ang sinabi mong ibibigay mo. Sinong niloloko mo mr president.

 

Remember yun sinabi ni Digong na magbibigay ng waiver hindi siya legally liable for not doing so but he has the moral obligation to do it since he volunteered so don't justify yun hindi niya pagbigay ng waiver by hiding sa legalidad ng batas at sasabihin the burden of proof is on trillanes. If he really wants to come out clean and change the perception of doubters who knows what he issued was not a waiver and thus has no legal basis for the bank to disclose his bank transactions. Ganun din yun utos niya sa amlc to disclose in order to counter the allegations. Both have zero value but pogi points yan sa kanya to those ignorant.

 

Admission of guilt ba kapag hindi pinatulan? Legally speaking ...We all know hindi ganun yun so don't argue in such manner just to tilt the argument in your favor. But of course sa perception ng tao, hindi maiiwasan na pagdudahan ng ilan. Simple lang naman yan ... If he was falsely accused he could have denied it, asked Trillanes to prove his allegations in court, and just shut the f#&k up. Classic example si Binay despite all the allegations and investigations he just continously deny all these accusations and wait for the charges to be filed. He never offered anything to prove his denial or defense. Eh kaso nga palaban si Digong hinamon siya eh lumaban naman at patutunayan daw na malinis siya so maglalabas siya ng waiver eh di naman pala kayang ilabas. Both are lawyers but it seems the other one is smarter kasi hindi nagpadalos sa bugso ng damdamin.

 

Meron ba nagsasabing huwag idaan sa tamang legal na proseso?

Edited February 26, 2017 by rooster69ph

[haroots2]

Come on sino ba ang hindi kahit minsan nag point ng accusing finger to anyone? Ikaw?

 

Remember kahit may naipakitang mansion napatunayan ba na kay binay un? Legally hindi di ba? Am not defending binay here pero tulad nito its an accusation and we are both on the same page as to our opinion on this na sa tingin natin guilty si binay di ba.

 

Nasa korte na yun kung mapatunayan yung kay Binay pero at least may physical evidence kang tinuturo na nakaw yaman yun at hindi laway. Kaya nga bumagsak si BInay sa masa dahil doon pero ngayon walng pumapatol kay Trillanes kasi laway lang wala siayng ibang ebidensyang pinapakita.

[Edmund Dantes]

Yeah right pahirapan ang trolls at bakit utuuto? hahaha what a lame excuse .... The fact of the matter is humirit siya na magbibigay ng waiver probably just to show the people he is clean ang transparent. Kaya nga pinapunta pa niya si Panelo sa bangko na may spa. Pero mr president malinaw naman sa batas na waiver ang kailangan at yun din ang sinabi mong ibibigay mo. Sinong niloloko mo mr president.

 

Remember yun sinabi ni Digong na magbibigay ng waiver hindi siya legally liable for not doing so but he has the moral obligation to do it since he volunteered so don't justify yun hindi niya pagbigay ng waiver by hiding sa legalidad ng batas at sasabihin the burden of proof is on trillanes. If he really wants to come out clean and change the perception of doubters who knows what he issued was not a waiver and thus has no legal basis for the bank to disclose his bank transactions. Ganun din yun utos niya sa amlc to disclose in order to counter the allegations. Both have zero value but pogi points yan sa kanya to those ignorant.

 

Admission of guilt ba kapag hindi pinatulan? Legally speaking ...We all know hindi ganun yun so don't argue in such manner just to tilt the argument in your favor. But of course sa perception ng tao, hindi maiiwasan na pagdudahan ng ilan. Simple lang naman yan ... If he was falsely accused he could have denied it, asked Trillanes to prove his allegations in court, and just shut the f#&k up. Classic example si Binay despite all the allegations and investigations he just continously deny all these accusations and wait for the charges to be filed. He never offered anything to prove his denial or defense. Eh kaso nga palaban si Digong hinamon siya eh lumaban naman at patutunayan daw na malinis siya so maglalabas siya ng waiver eh di naman pala kayang ilabas. Both are lawyers but it seems the other one is smarter kasi hindi nagpadalos sa bugso ng damdamin.

 

Meron ba nagsasabing huwag idaan sa tamang legal na proseso?

 

It seems ikaw ang gumagawa dito ng excuses para kay Trillanes. And come on! He will not shut up! Did he shut up nga nung lumabas na negative drug test ni Paolo? Did he shut up nung yun property na sinasabi nyang kay Digong, eh lumabas pagme-mayari pala ng kaapilyedo lang?

 

Walang obligasyon presidente na patulan ito. Si Trillanes me obligasyon na patunayan paratang nya.

 

Besides, para kay Trillanes hindi naman pinakaimportante dito mapatunayan nya na tama o mali paratang nya. Ang importante nakagawa sya ng bad press. Parang di na tayo nasanay sa asong ulol na ito.

 

Nasa korte na yun kung mapatunayan yung kay Binay pero at least may physical evidence kang tinuturo na nakaw yaman yun at hindi laway. Kaya nga bumagsak si BInay sa masa dahil doon pero ngayon walng pumapatol kay Trillanes kasi laway lang wala siayng ibang ebidensyang pinapakita.

 

 

Like I said, for Trillanes, its not about proving that he is right or wrong. Its simply about stirring up a media circus hoping it would hurt duterte's popularity. He takes orders from LP to do just this.

[rooster69ph]

It seems ikaw ang gumagawa dito ng excuses para kay Trillanes. And come on! He will not shut up! Did he shut up nga nung lumabas na negative drug test ni Paolo? Did he shut up nung yun property na sinasabi nyang kay Digong, eh lumabas pagme-mayari pala ng kaapilyedo lang?

 

Walang obligasyon presidente na patulan ito. Si Trillanes me obligasyon na patunayan paratang nya.

 

Besides, para kay Trillanes hindi naman pinakaimportante dito mapatunayan nya na tama o mali paratang nya. Ang importante nakagawa sya ng bad press. Parang di na tayo nasanay sa asong ulol na ito.

 

 

Like I said, for Trillanes, its not about proving that he is right or wrong. Its simply about stirring up a media circus hoping it would hurt duterte's popularity. He takes orders from LP to do just this.

Ganito lang yan ... Kung ano man ang ginawa ni Trillanes maaring may sablay at may iba naman eh pumuntos siya.

 

Now as for me and my opinion, sa issue ng pag issue ng waiver i will hold duterte morally liable and i'm not making excuses for Trillanes. Oo walang obligasyon ang presidente na patulan ito, pero pinatulan niya na. Nangako siya so as a citizen i am holding him accountable for his promises as a public servant in the spirit of transparency. As to the other issues which sabi mo nga pumalpak si Trillanes, did you see me defend him or kumampi sa kanya on these? As to whether he shut up or not that is his perogative. Ultimately he should be accountable for his actions.

 

So he is talking orders from LP. may proof ka ba? Yun matibay na ebidensiya ha kasi kung hindi para lang din yan accusation ni Trillanes na naka exel. Nirereklamo mo pero pag ikaw ang gumawa ok lang.

Edited February 27, 2017 by rooster69ph

[rooster69ph]

Nasa korte na yun kung mapatunayan yung kay Binay pero at least may physical evidence kang tinuturo na nakaw yaman yun at hindi laway. Kaya nga bumagsak si BInay sa masa dahil doon pero ngayon walng pumapatol kay Trillanes kasi laway lang wala siayng ibang ebidensyang pinapakita.

Physical evidence na hindi nakapangalan sa kanya .... Na sa iyo na mismo nanggaling na korte ang huhusga.

 

Pero At this point nothing is proven and yet sabi ko nga we both have pre-judged him. Sa kanya ok lang pero pag si duterte na idol mo magrereklamo ka pag na pre-judged.

 

Walang ebidensiya? May bank accounts na nabanggit, verified na kay Digong ang mga accounts na yon. May transaction summary na pinakita na ideneny ni Digong. Sabi niya patutunayan niya na mali ang paratang ni Trillanes at magbibigay siya ng waiver. Ang tanong bakit hindi niya mabigay-bigay para magkaalaman na. Remember he volunteered na magbibigay ng waiver. Wala naman mawawala sa kanya kung wala siyang itinatago. In fact makakabuti pa nga lalo kay digong kasi he would be transparent and be able to prove the false accusations against him.

 

So what kung walang pumatol,does it mean he is not guilty at kung madaming pumatol then one is? Pwede naman kasi na kaya wala masyadong pumatol dahil mas madami ang hindi naniniwala hindi dahil napatunayan na mali ang paratang kundi dahil sadyang maka duterte lamang. Yun sa senado at kongreso its a numbers game. Nagkataon lang madaming kampi kay Digong kaya suportado siya at di uusad ang mga issues kahit totoo.

Edited February 27, 2017 by rooster69ph

[Edmund Dantes]

Ganito lang yan ... Kung ano man ang ginawa ni Trillanes maaring may sablay at may iba naman eh pumuntos siya.

 

Now as for me and my opinion, sa issue ng pag issue ng waiver i will hold duterte morally liable and i'm not making excuses for Trillanes. Oo walang obligasyon ang presidente na patulan ito, pero pinatulan niya na. Nangako siya so as a citizen i am holding him accountable for his promises as a public servant in the spirit of transparency. As to the other issues which sabi mo nga pumalpak si Trillanes, did you see me defend him or kumampi sa kanya on these? As to whether he shut up or not that is his perogative. Ultimately he should be accountable for his actions.

 

So he is talking orders from LP. may proof ka ba? Yun matibay na ebidensiya ha kasi kung hindi para lang din yan accusation ni Trillanes na naka exel. Nirereklamo mo pero pag ikaw ang gumawa ok lang.

 

Transparency should work both ways. If you truly want transparency how come not once you have questioned yun pinagbasehan ni Trillanes ng spreadsheet nya? The moral responsibility here lies more on Trillanes dahil sya nagpaparatang. Ano ba masama ilabas nya lahat ng pruweba nya. Hindi naman kelangan pahamon hamon pa, all he needs is probable cause. Hindi naman ganun katindi pangil ng ra1405.

 

In the same way, its also the president's prerogative to give in, or tell trillanes that he can go f#&k himself. No he will not shut up. The simple fact of the matter is that, yun mga sablay nya proves that he is the one in fact with questionable credibility. Sugod lang ng sugod, di bale kung tama o mali, yan ba ang mga kelangan pa idignify?

 

Yes I am saying that he takes orders from LP. I do not need to prove it. ikaw dapat magpatunay na mali ako, kundi ibig sabihin tama lang sinasabi ko lol'

[rooster69ph]

Transparency should work both ways. If you truly want transparency how come not once you have questioned yun pinagbasehan ni Trillanes ng spreadsheet nya? The moral responsibility here lies more on Trillanes dahil sya nagpaparatang. Ano ba masama ilabas nya lahat ng pruweba nya. Hindi naman kelangan pahamon hamon pa, all he needs is probable cause. Hindi naman ganun katindi pangil ng ra1405.

 

In the same way, its also the president's prerogative to give in, or tell trillanes that he can go f#&k himself. No he will not shut up. The simple fact of the matter is that, yun mga sablay nya proves that he is the one in fact with questionable credibility. Sugod lang ng sugod, di bale kung tama o mali, yan ba ang mga kelangan pa idignify?

 

Yes I am saying that he takes orders from LP. I do not need to prove it. ikaw dapat magpatunay na mali ako, kundi ibig sabihin tama lang sinasabi ko lol'

Nope trillanes has the legal obligation to prove his accusations to pin duterte down. Otherwise it will remain as such ...allegations. In fact kung kasinungalingan lang yun bakit hindi idemanda ni duterte? Duterte has the perogative kung papatulan niya o hindi. He opted na patulan at nangakong magbibigay ng waiver just to prove to trillanes as well as the filipinos that he is clean thus he now have the moral obligation to comply.

 

First and foremost it was proven that the account existed. Now had the president not volunteered to give a waiver then i would have given him the benefit of the doubt. But since umurong sulong siya eh nakakapagduda siya. What is there to hide if it does not exist?

 

Oh yeah may taong galit na galit sa kung anu-anong akusasyon ni trillanes at dapat patunayan daw ang akusasyon. Look at yourself now...you are accusing him of taking orders from the LP and yet when asked to prove it you can't and want to pass the burden. Anong pinagkaiba mo kay trillanes kung ganon ...marunong ka lang ding magakusa di ba.

Edited February 28, 2017 by rooster69ph

[Edmund Dantes]

Nope trillanes has the legal obligation to prove his accusations to pin duterte down. Otherwise it will remain as such ...allegations. In fact kung kasinungalingan lang yun bakit hindi idemanda ni duterte? Duterte has the perogative kung papatulan niya o hindi. He opted na patulan at nangakong magbibigay ng waiver just to prove to trillanes as well as the filipinos that he is clean thus he now have the moral obligation to comply.

 

First and foremost it was proven that the account existed. Now had the president not volunteered to give a waiver then i would have given him the benefit of the doubt. But since umurong sulong siya eh nakakapagduda siya. What is there to hide if it does not exist?

 

Oh yeah may taong galit na galit sa kung anu-anong akusasyon ni trillanes at dapat patunayan daw ang akusasyon. Look at yourself now...you are accusing him of taking orders from the LP and yet when asked to prove it you can't and want to pass the burden. Anong pinagkaiba mo kay trillanes kung ganon ...marunong ka lang ding magakusa di ba.

 

 

AYun nakay Trillanes pala legal obligation, at prerogative ni Duterte patulan o hindi. SO anong problema mo? Ayaw nya na ito patulan pa. Andyan naman AMLA, all thats needed to be done is for Trillanes to present probable cause. SO he was met halfway.

 

Nakakaduda na ayaw na patulan pa ito ng Presidente, pero hindi ka kahit kelan nagduda kung bakit noon eh niligawan nya si Duterte maging running mate, tapos ngayon sasabihin nung 2015 nya pa daw alam yun tungkol sa tagong yaman nya at mga pinapatay. Nung 2015 pa daw alam! Samantalang nung tinanong kung bakit nung eleksyon daw sya nagsalita sa mga bank accounts, ang sabi kung nalaman nya daw mas maaga, mas maaga nya nilabas. O ano ba talaga?

 

Kaya nga I am using the same tactic. Patunayan mo dapat na mali ako. I do not need to present proof. Ikaw dapat patunay na mali ako

[rooster69ph]

 

 

AYun nakay Trillanes pala legal obligation, at prerogative ni Duterte patulan o hindi. SO anong problema mo? Ayaw nya na ito patulan pa. Andyan naman AMLA, all thats needed to be done is for Trillanes to present probable cause. SO he was met halfway.

 

Nakakaduda na ayaw na patulan pa ito ng Presidente, pero hindi ka kahit kelan nagduda kung bakit noon eh niligawan nya si Duterte maging running mate, tapos ngayon sasabihin nung 2015 nya pa daw alam yun tungkol sa tagong yaman nya at mga pinapatay. Nung 2015 pa daw alam! Samantalang nung tinanong kung bakit nung eleksyon daw sya nagsalita sa mga bank accounts, ang sabi kung nalaman nya daw mas maaga, mas maaga nya nilabas. O ano ba talaga?

 

Kaya nga I am using the same tactic. Patunayan mo dapat na mali ako. I do not need to present proof. Ikaw dapat patunay na mali ako

Prerogative nga niya eh pinatulan niya eh. Sabi niya magbibigay ng waiver...nasaan na?

 

Kaya sinasabi ko kung saan mas convenient sa iyo dun ka ... double standards. Lol si why would i bother its prerogative anyway

[Edmund Dantes]

Prerogative nga niya eh pinatulan niya eh. Sabi niya magbibigay ng waiver...nasaan na?

 

Kaya sinasabi ko kung saan mas convenient sa iyo dun ka ... double standards. Lol si why would i bother its prerogative anyway

 

Eh ayaw nya na patulan. Prerogative nya din yun, tsaka sayo na nangaling nakay Trillanes obligasyon na patunayan sinasabi nya.

 

OO ikaw din double standard ka. Akusahan si De Lima, kelangan me convincing evidence. Pag si Digong inakusahan no convincing needed at all.

[rooster69ph]

Eh ayaw nya na patulan. Prerogative nya din yun, tsaka sayo na nangaling nakay Trillanes obligasyon na patunayan sinasabi nya.

 

 

Kung gayon preogative ko rin na pagdudahan siya dahil style niya bulok ....

 

Nagmamalinis at maglalabas ng waiver hindi naman pala kaya.

 

And prerogative din ni trillanes na sabihin niya kung ano ang gusto niya about duterte. Prerogative din ni duterte kasuhan si trillanes kung sa tingin niya na agrabyado siya sa mga paratang nito. Bakit hindi niya kasuhan kung wala naman maipakitang pruweba si trillanes gayong kaawa-awa naman siya sa mga "kasinungalingan na paratang" nito? Lol.

[Edmund Dantes]

Kung gayon preogative ko rin na pagdudahan siya dahil style niya bulok ....

 

Nagmamalinis at maglalabas ng waiver hindi naman pala kaya.

 

And prerogative din ni trillanes na sabihin niya kung ano ang gusto niya about duterte. Prerogative din ni duterte kasuhan si trillanes kung sa tingin niya na agrabyado siya sa mga paratang nito. Bakit hindi niya kasuhan kung wala naman maipakitang pruweba si trillanes gayong kaawa-awa naman siya sa mga "kasinungalingan na paratang" nito? Lol.

 

Ang prerogative na ginagamit mo dito ay ang pagiging anti-Duterte mo. Kahit sino magakusa sa kanya, kahit wala naman pinapakitang pruweba eh rah rah rah! ka. Lolz.

 

Sabay sa utak mo si Trillanes nasa beach tumatakbo in slo mo, ng nakabikini trunks bitbit bandila ng pilipinas.... yiiiiiha! Ano kayang background music?

 

Mas matindi naman yun nagaakusa pero wala naman pruweba. Magreresign daw, eh hindi nga nagresign nung paulit ulit naman sumabit.

 

Hay... sa panahon ngayon, magingay ka lang sa senado ang dami kaagad sasakay. Parang the buzz na lang, kahit chismis gospel truth na.

[rooster69ph]

Reklamo ng reklamo dutertards...pag inakusahan si digong ang sabi prove your accusations. Pag sila naman ang kumokontta prove they are wrong. Bwahahaha...in short lagi silang tama.

 

bakit di kasi kasuhan si trillanes sa mga maling pinagsasabi o allegasyon niya kay lord digong para manahimik ito. Sige na ikaw na magsampa ...daliii

Edited March 6, 2017 by rooster69ph

[Edmund Dantes]

Reklamo ng reklamo dutertards...pag inakusahan si digong ang sabi prove your accusations. Pag sila naman ang kumokontta prove they are wrong. Bwahahaha...in short lagi silang tama.

 

bakit di kasi kasuhan si trillanes sa mga maling pinagsasabi o allegasyon niya kay lord digong para manahimik ito. Sige na ikaw na magsampa ...daliii

 

Kayo ngang mga yellow squad ang laging tama, kasi lahat ng akusasyon kay Duterte laging tama. Kahit yun pagbintang ng walang basehan tama! Basta kay Duterte! ahahahahaha.

 

Hmmm I am no lawyer, but as far as I know me parliamentary immunity si Trillanes bilang senador. If I remember correctly this was paramount dun sa Jose Pidal issue, hindi maidemanda si Lacson dahil sa parliamentary immunity nya. Kung di ako nagkakamali idenemanda na ng isa mo pang idol si Trillanes ng Libel pero naibasura lang ito. Ayun! Being a senator has its perks.

 

Sige lang, dahil kay Duterte nakatuon pansin ni Trillanes, ngayon sa utak mo tatakbo takbo sya sa white sand beach in animal-printed na bikini trunks habang bitbit bandila... at yun alon ay tumatampisaw sa kanya........... Handoooooog ng piiiiiiiliiiiiipiiiiiiinoooooo sa mundoooooohohooooo

[rooster69ph]

 

Kayo ngang mga yellow squad ang laging tama, kasi lahat ng akusasyon kay Duterte laging tama. Kahit yun pagbintang ng walang basehan tama! Basta kay Duterte! ahahahahaha.

 

Hmmm I am no lawyer, but as far as I know me parliamentary immunity si Trillanes bilang senador. If I remember correctly this was paramount dun sa Jose Pidal issue, hindi maidemanda si Lacson dahil sa parliamentary immunity nya. Kung di ako nagkakamali idenemanda na ng isa mo pang idol si Trillanes ng Libel pero naibasura lang ito. Ayun! Being a senator has its perks.

 

Sige lang, dahil kay Duterte nakatuon pansin ni Trillanes, ngayon sa utak mo tatakbo takbo sya sa white sand beach in animal-printed na bikini trunks habang bitbit bandila... at yun alon ay tumatampisaw sa kanya........... Handoooooog ng piiiiiiiliiiiiipiiiiiiinoooooo sa mundoooooohohooooo

Aysus parliamentary immunity eh may conditions yan bago ma invoke...palusot na naman in defense. Hindi pala pwede and yet sabi ni sal panelo they will slap trillanes with libel. So ano yun the usual style na may masabi lang di naman pala magawa?

 

Si binay nga dinemanda si trillanes ng libel. Na arraign na nga siya. He also posted bail. Similar issue yun mga maling paratang niya.

 

Pag gusto may paraan pag waley daming palusot.

 

Ako i welcome na magdemanda nang sa gayon baka pwede na i-request sa korte na mag issue ng subpoena para sa bank transactions. Gusto ba yun ni duterte kung may tinatago? siyempre hindi. Kaya hindi makapagdemanda eh. Lol.

Edited March 6, 2017 by rooster69ph

[Edmund Dantes]

Aysus parliamentary immunity eh may conditions yan bago ma invoke...palusot na naman in defense. Hindi pala pwede and yet sabi ni sal panelo they will slap trillanes with libel. So ano yun the usual style na may masabi lang di naman pala magawa?

 

Si binay nga dinemanda si trillanes ng libel. Na arraign na nga siya. He also posted bail. Similar issue yun mga maling paratang niya.

 

Pag gusto may paraan pag waley daming palusot.

 

Ako i welcome na magdemanda nang sa gayon baka pwede na i-request sa korte na mag issue ng subpoena para sa bank transactions. Gusto ba yun ni duterte kung may tinatago? siyempre hindi. Kaya hindi makapagdemanda eh. Lol.

 

Well like I admitted I am no legal expert dito. Pero hindi naman komo hindi nagdedemanda ng libel ibig sabihin, nagiging tama na yun sinabi ni Trillanes di ba? Ang alam ko the smilar thing happened noon kay Lacson sa Jose Pidal. So I do not know kung ano legal strategy na gagamitin nila dito,

 

Tsaka di ba noon panay ka din reklamo na bat di kinakasuhan si De Lima mo? O ngayon nakakulong ka, pero di ka naman tumahimik, me hirit ka pa din. Ahahahay.

 

But credit when its due, isa lang naman talaga gusto mo dito, at yun ay me mahanap ka lagi ng isusumbat. Ke maliit o malaki, sumbat lang ng sumbat! Hindi ba?

 

Kayo din, kung talagang salot sa inyo si Duterte, bat di pa kayo nagpe-people power at kumakanta ng....

 

Haaaaandoooooog ng piiiiilipiiiiiinooooo sa mundoooooooo

[rooster69ph]

 

So bottomline may legal option si duterte kay trillanes. common sense dictates pag naagrabyado ka ipaglalaban mo karapatan mo. kung mali ang akusasyon at natotorete na dahil ayaw tumigil ayaw mo ba maipakulong yun tao? So isip din bakit ayaw magdemanda.

 

Gusto kamo mag people power? Eh ito nga vocal sa reklamo panay reklamo mo. saan kaya lulugar?

[Mango Man]

All politicians engage in 'perception engineering'. Our president is a classic example. Why we expect Jesse Robredo, or any other politician alive or dead, to be a saint is beyond me.

 

The allegations of WAC remain to be proven. Why not try to do your research and find out if what they claim is really true? Rather than swallowing everything hook, line and sinker?

[Edmund Dantes]

So bottomline may legal option si duterte kay trillanes. common sense dictates pag naagrabyado ka ipaglalaban mo karapatan mo. kung mali ang akusasyon at natotorete na dahil ayaw tumigil ayaw mo ba maipakulong yun tao? So isip din bakit ayaw magdemanda.

 

Gusto kamo mag people power? Eh ito nga vocal sa reklamo panay reklamo mo. saan kaya lulugar?

 

 

Ang legal strategy we leave that up sa mga abugado ng presidente. Yan naman hirap sa atin dito, hilig magabu-abugaduhan eh. Malay naman natin mas matindi pala plinaplano nilang legal at political repercussion para kay Trillanes. Ayan gusto ko matinding matindi. Mageenjoy talaga ako pag nangyari yun. Yabang kasi ng gago, May daw impeached na si Duterte... ahahahahahaha yeah right! Botohan pa lang sa death penalty napakaoverwhelming ang kakampi ni Duterte. Di pa ba sya nadala? nanawagan ng people power sa manila pen, hindi naman sya sinipot ng 12 million na bobotante nya.... Anyway, thats just saying I never liked the son of a bitch waaaaaaay back sa oakwood days nya.

 

O di lakad, pumunta ka nga sa kalye, magpatugtug ka ng handog ng Pilipino sa mundo! Good luck nga kung magtagumpay kayo.

[Mango Man]

James Cutter,

 

well, you are correct to a large extent - Duterte is a what you see is what you get person. But there is still some nagging doubt. Is he really as simple as he says? What if the BPI accounts (if opened) show he has millions? How would that be explained?

 

Is Davao really as safe as he claims it to be?

That crying scene at his parents' grave when he became president? with the media so conveniently present?

 

anyway, i think we are digressing a bit from the topic of this thread. i find all politicians distasteful in varying degrees, and i don't think anyone is a total saint or total sinner.

[Edmund Dantes]

Here is something that will piss off the yellows and the Anti-Duterte

 

Donald Trump once said that he could shoot somebody on a busy new york street and he wont lose voters. In the same way Trillanes can come up with an actual video of Duterte shooting someone and he wont lose his presidency. It will hardly affect how the public sees him.

 

You see I bet majority of those 16M people half-believed that Duterte ordered the killings of those criminals in Davao. So that means they half-want him to do the same for the entire country. Another way of putting it is that, 16M wanted those criminals dead.

 

So ano ba bago sa mga sinasabi na mamamatay tao si Duterte? Inamin pa nya nakapatay na sya. Obvious naman na mas gusto ng tao ng pumapatay ng adik, kesa yun nagnanakaw sa kanila.