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sa totoo lang minsan naiisip ko...walang kwenta rin tong ginagawa kong pag papakita na ang mga PSP/MPA/GRO/ ay

dapat ding mahalin eh...alam nyo bakit? kase indi naman talaga pare-parehas ang mga tao e...kahit wala pa sa ganitong field.

At kahit yung mga babae na nasa ganitong field...iba-iba rin....like...yung nakaaway ko....like yung...gf ni tabouki....(di pa ko masyadong sure dito)...yung mga ibang naging kasamahan ko...(madami sila)

iba sila....sila yung mga ka inlove-inlove din pero....walang mga puso....importante talaga sa kanila ang pera....

madami na akong nakita at nakilalang lalaki na niloko nila at pina iyak...yes....ako ang nagiging iyakan ng mga lalaking ito.

...that's why I know....itong mga lalaking ito ay MTC members din...kaya ako ang ginagawa nilang crying shoulders...

...and i saw how these girls tore their hearts....pinaasa sila....hinawakan....ginamit....pinagtatawanan sa talikuran....

pinagpaplanuhan kung pano mas kakaririn...kung pano nila binobola sa phone habang kumikindat sa amin...kung pano nila dini display at kinekwento yung katangahan nung guy at pag ka uto-uto....and all that s@%t....

 

on the other hand...nakita ko narin ang mga ibang kagaya ko kung pano umiyak over a guest na nainlove sila...narinig ko narin kung pano sila magmakaawa over the phone...nakita ko rin kung pano nila sinira buhay nila over failed realtionships w/ guests...

 

that's why i know....i saw both sides...

i've seen alot...i've seen too much...

and yes....nakakalungkot talaga.....

 

 

hmmmm... curious lang ms. iwa, gathering from what you have experienced sa iyong line of work before, ano ang batting average ng mga clients who fall in love sa psp/mpa/gro na naging happy or successful sila sa kanilang relationship or nag grow kumbaga compared dun sa mga clients na umuwing duguan and luhaan sa huli, just a quick statistic lang ^_^ thanks!

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oo nga eh. my pc is acting gay again.. anyhow, back to topic. i definitely agree on the solid foundation of the relationship. importante yun. but hey, don't discount the fact that people can change their ways and improve themselves :)

 

I definitely agree with you that people change, in two ways though, for the better or worse. Sometimes people resist change because they already created a comfort zone wherein they are already contented. What is contentment anyway? that we have change an MP to a decent girl which we can show to all the people, and therefore to please the public? I dont think this is how it works in this world... At some point the MP's will change for the good, just to please you, but after sometime they'll go back to being an MP because of monetary and physical needs that they have been accustomed at. I say, we can fall in love, or in lust with an MP but for a limited time only. ;)

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sa totoo lang minsan naiisip ko...walang kwenta rin tong ginagawa kong pag papakita na ang mga PSP/MPA/GRO/ ay

dapat ding mahalin eh...alam nyo bakit? kase indi naman talaga pare-parehas ang mga tao e...kahit wala pa sa ganitong field.

At kahit yung mga babae na nasa ganitong field...iba-iba rin....like...yung nakaaway ko....like yung...gf ni tabouki....(di pa ko masyadong sure dito)...yung mga ibang naging kasamahan ko...(madami sila)

iba sila....sila yung mga ka inlove-inlove din pero....walang mga puso....importante talaga sa kanila ang pera....

madami na akong nakita at nakilalang lalaki na niloko nila at pina iyak...yes....ako ang nagiging iyakan ng mga lalaking ito.

...that's why I know....itong mga lalaking ito ay MTC members din...kaya ako ang ginagawa nilang crying shoulders...

...and i saw how these girls tore their hearts....pinaasa sila....hinawakan....ginamit....pinagtatawanan sa talikuran....

pinagpaplanuhan kung pano mas kakaririn...kung pano nila binobola sa phone habang kumikindat sa amin...kung pano nila dini display at kinekwento yung katangahan nung guy at pag ka uto-uto....and all that s@%t....

 

totoo po yung post ko. di ko po naging gf yun, semi-suki customer niya ako. sa emerald mp quezon av.- may aquarium at sa basement yung vip may jacuzzi/pool. school na yata ang nakatayo ngayon. going to edsa same side as maalikaya & ginza. i forgot her name- maliit petite 5'1" maputi...sa totoo po naalala ko lang sa kakabasa dito mtc hehehe

siguro classic case yun ng - trabaho lang walang personalan. at tama po kayo, daming mpas - pera-pera lang not even giving gfe.

 

men easily fall for gro/mpas coz of their physical beauty. whether that initial attraction blossoms into a full-blown relationship leading to live-in couple/ mistress or marriage depends on both parties. for me, i know not where you come from, what your past is but whats impt is how you handle/carry yourself now.

 

peace po :flowers:

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After hearing this, I guess love is fair after all. They suffer, we suffer. The question is, will there be a harmonious relationship between client and mp? Should we indulge in a relationship with an mp? On top of their personality, gread body and pretty face, if you take them all out and accept whats on the inside. Maybe it can work, but for how long?.... True they may be financially motivated, thats why they entered this kind of profession. If we can provide for their needs will it be sufficient. And how about the pain that their profession brings to you lets say a friend of yours already screwed her? There are people who can tolerate these instances and there are those who cant. Its really complicated just by mere reminscing my previous experience with a person similar to this profession. Thats why I chose not to do it again. But it was a good experience...

 

sa totoo lang minsan naiisip ko...walang kwenta rin tong ginagawa kong pag papakita na ang mga PSP/MPA/GRO/ ay

dapat ding mahalin eh...alam nyo bakit? kase indi naman talaga pare-parehas ang mga tao e...kahit wala pa sa ganitong field.

At kahit yung mga babae na nasa ganitong field...iba-iba rin....like...yung nakaaway ko....like yung...gf ni tabouki....(di pa ko masyadong sure dito)...yung mga ibang naging kasamahan ko...(madami sila)

iba sila....sila yung mga ka inlove-inlove din pero....walang mga puso....importante talaga sa kanila ang pera....

madami na akong nakita at nakilalang lalaki na niloko nila at pina iyak...yes....ako ang nagiging iyakan ng mga lalaking ito.

...that's why I know....itong mga lalaking ito ay MTC members din...kaya ako ang ginagawa nilang crying shoulders...

...and i saw how these girls tore their hearts....pinaasa sila....hinawakan....ginamit....pinagtatawanan sa talikuran....

pinagpaplanuhan kung pano mas kakaririn...kung pano nila binobola sa phone habang kumikindat sa amin...kung pano nila dini display at kinekwento yung katangahan nung guy at pag ka uto-uto....and all that s@%t....

 

on the other hand...nakita ko narin ang mga ibang kagaya ko kung pano umiyak over a guest na nainlove sila...narinig ko narin kung pano sila magmakaawa over the phone...nakita ko rin kung pano nila sinira buhay nila over failed realtionships w/ guests...

 

that's why i know....i saw both sides...

i've seen alot...i've seen too much...

and yes....nakakalungkot talaga.....

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and i saw how these girls tore their hearts....pinaasa sila....hinawakan....ginamit....pinagtatawanan sa talikuran....

pinagpaplanuhan kung pano mas kakaririn...kung pano nila binobola sa phone habang kumikindat sa amin...kung pano nila dini display at kinekwento yung katangahan nung guy at pag ka uto-uto....and all that s@%t....

 

now you just scared the sh!t out of me.

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i perfectly know what i'm saying here Mr.

Look... tatagalugin ko na hah kase nauubusan nako ng ingles....

para tanggapin mo yung babae na alam mong kung sino sino ang kumakantot...at tapos kakantutin mo rin sya lagi ng libre...at tuwang tuwa ka pa dahil nakakalibre ka....at gusto mo pa mas madami kapa sanang time kesa sa mga guests na kumakantot sa kanya....na parang yun lang ang makakapag pa tahimik ng kaluluwa mo...na basta lang may time sya sayo ok na rin kahit madaming kumakantot sa kanya...anong klaseng pag mamahal yon?

ni wala ka namang balak na iahon sya sa ganun o alisin sya sa ganun...ok na sayo yung maki share sa ibang lalake...at pag nakakalamang sila ng kantot nagagalit ka...anong klaseng pag mamahal yon ha Mr?

Yan yung pagmamahal na tipong pag nagsama na sila ay magtatrabaho parin yung babae...at OPKORS ok parin yan para sa kanya...pabor since malaki ang kita....maaambunan pa sya ng grasya....pero ano....she will make her life a living hell...baket? kase hindi mararamdaman sa kanya ng babae ang "safety"...security...."respect"...protection....tunay na pagmamahal...alam mo kung anong mararamdaman nung babae?...sabihin ko sayo ha...mararamdaman nya na binubugaw sya...ginagamit...nagpapalibre lang...sumasakay sa grasya..... sa tingin ko nga nare-realize na ito ng babae ngayon ( syempre may mga kaibigan din yan na nagpapayo) si Thug ay isa lang sa mga guest ...the worst kind of guest actually....(sorry)

he's professing love ...pero behind it all....pinapakita nya ito sa papanong paraan? ginagamit nya lang yung babae.....ng libre....other than that...nasan ang pagmamahal? may ginawa na ba sya para sa babae na yun? para mabawasan man lang ang paghihirap nung girl? ano? alukin syang maging business partner? f#&k! anong klase yun?....so kailangan humataw pa ng humataw yung babae para may pang share sa partnership?...at pag tapos ano?....sino makikinabang? hamig nanaman si Thug! may libreng sex na si Thug....may business pa! san ka pa?

 

ang pagmamahal....nakikita ba yan sa salita? nararandaman ba yan porket lang magkasama kayo at nagsesex?....nararamdaman ba yan sa mga simpleng pag papayo...na maging ganito ka...maging ganyan ka...maging praktikal ka...mag ipon ka....etc. kahit sino pwedeng gumawa nyan eh. May ginagawa ba si THUG na special para sa babae na ito na mag po-prove na totoong pagmamahal...like what you're trying to defend?....sige nga...meron ba? tell me.

 

Therefore....pag sila ay nagsama at ganito parin ang convictions ni THUG....lalo lang papangit ang tingin ng babaeng ito sa buhay...lalong macoconfuse...lalong mawawalan ng tiwala sa pagmamahal...at tiwala sa tao...

resulta? edi syempre lalong mawawalan ng pag asa sa buhay....mas magiging miserable....yes...drugs, alcohol, suicide...name it....malay mo mauwi pa yan sa homicide pag minalas-malas.

 

 

First of all, I want you to know that I respect your opinion. However, I think you are drawing too many conclusions from what Thug said. I don't know. Probably, you've had more experience in relationships like this than me. You know the been-there-done-that kind of knowledge you get from your life experiences.

 

When it looked like I was defending Thug, I was also saying things from my own experience. I know that what Thug is going through is difficult, to say the least. I know how he feels as I've been through that before. Probably, he is saying things just to show a facade to what he really is feeling. You should know that we men will rarely show our vulnerabilities - in love or not in lovet.

 

Anyway, as you have said in a later post, you knew women in your former profession who played with the feelings of the guests who fell in love with them. I think that by itself justifies the doubt of Thug.

 

When you said that Thug has not yet done anything special to the girl to show her he loves her, how do you really show your love to somebody who only gives so little opportunity to do so. You want Thug to "raise" her from what she is doing? From another post of Thug, it seemed his GF is enjoying what she does. Well, I have read in countless of articles that prostitutes never enjoyed having sex with their customers. Probably her GF does not enjoy the sex but she enjoys the perks of the job - high income. So, what is Thug supposed to do?

 

When he said that he would probably make her a business partner in the future, I think he is just trying to make some sense out of their "situation." If the girl is making tons of money by prostituting herself, they might as well find some good use with the income rather that blow it all off on something that is not worth both their current sacrifices.

 

No boyfriend or husband will like their partner having sex with different men. It takes a really strong (or perverted) man to do so. Even the strongest of us needs to find a way to cope. I guess Thug's cold assessment of his relationship way of coping with this difficult situation.

 

I look forward to your intelligent response.

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napansin ko lang parang na disillusioned ka na sa kanya...dati-dati puros maganda lang ang sinasabi mo tungkol sa kanya....bakit ganon?

dati-dati parang halos sambahin mo na sya at ilagay sa pedestal.....anong nangyari sayo? :unsure:

 

 

because before she had time for me.. she used to be so sweet with me.. now she starts to talk like Rosanna Roces..

 

and somehow i notice she seems to be enjoying her job.. :(

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First of all, I want you to know that I respect your opinion. However, I think you are drawing too many conclusions from what Thug said. I don't know. Probably, you've had more experience in relationships like this than me. You know the been-there-done-that kind of knowledge you get from your life experiences.

 

When it looked like I was defending Thug, I was also saying things from my own experience. I know that what Thug is going through is difficult, to say the least. I know how he feels as I've been through that before. Probably, he is saying things just to show a facade to what he really is feeling. You should know that we men will rarely show our vulnerabilities - in love or not in lovet.

 

Anyway, as you have said in a later post, you knew women in your former profession who played with the feelings of the guests who fell in love with them. I think that by itself justifies the doubt of Thug.

 

When you said that Thug has not yet done anything special to the girl to show her he loves her, how do you really show your love to somebody who only gives so little opportunity to do so. You want Thug to "raise" her from what she is doing? From another post of Thug, it seemed his GF is enjoying what she does. Well, I have read in countless of articles that prostitutes never enjoyed having sex with their customers. Probably her GF does not enjoy the sex but she enjoys the perks of the job - high income. So, what is Thug supposed to do?

 

When he said that he would probably make her a business partner in the future, I think he is just trying to make some sense out of their "situation." If the girl is making tons of money by prostituting herself, they might as well find some good use with the income rather that blow it all off on something that is not worth both their current sacrifices.

 

No boyfriend or husband will like their partner having sex with different men. It takes a really strong (or perverted) man to do so. Even the strongest of us needs to find a way to cope. I guess Thug's cold assessment of his relationship way of coping with this difficult situation.

 

I look forward to your intelligent response.

 

i guess it also depends.. i figure out only lowly prostitutes has the reason not to enjoy their job.. they get lower pay, they work in poor conditions, and also get poor quality clients and guests

 

but high class prostitutes are somewhat different.. they work in fully airconditioned quarters, medical checkup, they get higher pay, most of the time they get classy good looking guests and if in luck they even get actors as clients.. (see iwalkalone's field report on her tryst with actor Jay Manalo and Keempee de Leon)

 

not bad isn't it?

 

my gf even would even mention when she gets good looking guests, she giggles just like any other woman.. which pisses me off actually..

 

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although on paper when you ask them, they will say they don't enjoy it.. it is because if they enjoy it what will that make of them? a sick nympho? :thumbsdownsmiley:

 

which is why most of them suffer from some sort of guilt feelings afterwards, which is why they can't look straight in the eye of other people.. they feel they did something wrong, but it felt so good, they can't help it.. same mental problem that's being exhibited by people with anorexia..

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sa totoo lang minsan naiisip ko...walang kwenta rin tong ginagawa kong pag papakita na ang mga PSP/MPA/GRO/ ay

dapat ding mahalin eh...alam nyo bakit? kase indi naman talaga pare-parehas ang mga tao e...kahit wala pa sa ganitong field.

At kahit yung mga babae na nasa ganitong field...iba-iba rin....like...yung nakaaway ko....like yung...gf ni tabouki....(di pa ko masyadong sure dito)...yung mga ibang naging kasamahan ko...(madami sila)

iba sila....sila yung mga ka inlove-inlove din pero....walang mga puso....importante talaga sa kanila ang pera....

madami na akong nakita at nakilalang lalaki na niloko nila at pina iyak...yes....ako ang nagiging iyakan ng mga lalaking ito.

...that's why I know....itong mga lalaking ito ay MTC members din...kaya ako ang ginagawa nilang crying shoulders...

...and i saw how these girls tore their hearts....pinaasa sila....hinawakan....ginamit....pinagtatawanan sa talikuran....

pinagpaplanuhan kung pano mas kakaririn...kung pano nila binobola sa phone habang kumikindat sa amin...kung pano nila dini display at kinekwento yung katangahan nung guy at pag ka uto-uto....and all that s@%t....

 

on the other hand...nakita ko narin ang mga ibang kagaya ko kung pano umiyak over a guest na nainlove sila...narinig ko narin kung pano sila magmakaawa over the phone...nakita ko rin kung pano nila sinira buhay nila over failed realtionships w/ guests...

 

that's why i know....i saw both sides...

i've seen alot...i've seen too much...

and yes....nakakalungkot talaga.....

 

 

that is why i still try to be cautious..

 

although on my part, its mp girl that's calling me on the cellphone.. sometimes her workmates would even tell her (which i overhear) that she appears cheap because she's the one calling the guy...

 

she hasn't asked for any money from me.. which surprises me actually.. yet we have slept several times already..sometimes she even agrees to split the motel bill with me..

 

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i guess it really depends on the kind of woman..

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to each his own.

 

can i just share this...sorry for the mush, here goes...

 

When you fall in love, it is a temporary madness. It erupts like an earthquake, and then it subsides. And when it subsides, you have to make a decision. You have to work out whether your roots are become so entwined together that it is inconceivable that you should ever part. Because this is what love is.

 

Love is not breathlessness, it is not excitement, it is not the desire to mate every second of the day. It is not lying awake at night imagining that he is kissing every part of your body. No... don't blush. I am telling you some truths. For that is just being in love; which any of us can convince ourselves we are. Love itself is what is left over, when being in love has burned away. Doesn't sound very exciting, does it?

 

agree ako sayo pards......i am having that problem now.... hhaaayyyy!! :wub: :wub: :wub:

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Actually with the line of work they are in, you can't expect too much. Since they wouldn't be doing this just for kicks, rather, they have to support their familes. They are her priority... and everything comes second. And in their line of work they will meet people from every corner of life, and she may find someone better for her. So don't expect much from the relationship.

 

In an ideal world... maybe.... but lets get real.... if both of you end up together then great...

 

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Actually with the line of work they are in, you can't expect too much. Since they wouldn't be doing this just for kicks, rather, they have to support their familes. They are her priority... and everything comes second. And in their line of work they will meet people from every corner of life, and she may find someone better for her. So don't expect much from the relationship.

 

In an ideal world... maybe.... but lets get real.... if both of you end up together then great...

 

 

"support their families"

 

the overused and typical line that they always use..

 

when in fact they have already gotten used to a luxurious living that finding a job of a lesser pay just cut it..

 

i think the line "support their families" is a way to hide their own guilt.. if its easy, if it pays well, if its exciting to do, then its something that is terribly wrong..

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hmmmm... curious lang ms. iwa, gathering from what you have experienced sa iyong line of work before, ano ang batting average ng mga clients who fall in love sa psp/mpa/gro na naging happy or successful sila sa kanilang relationship or nag grow kumbaga compared dun sa mga clients na umuwing duguan and luhaan sa huli, just a quick statistic lang ^_^ thanks!

 

well....bihira ang clients na na iinlove sa MPA...mas madaming MPAs ang naiinlove sa clients...

yung umiiyak...parehas lang...

yung mga clients na very vocal sa MPA about their feelings ...yun yung madalas na inaayawan...

sila din yung madaling paikutin ng mga oportunistang girls...

at sila din yung bitter pag naman binasted agad ng mga hindi oportunistang Girls....

 

bat nga kaya ganun? ayaw ba nila yun...hindi sila niloko? o mas gusto nilang maloko talaga muna?

dapat ma appreciate nila yung mga girls na honest...at walang maitim na balak sa mga gaya nilang vulnerable.

 

sa clients naman...yung MPAs na makulit sa kanila...yun naman yung inaayawan nila...

gulo no? :rolleyes:

 

 

 

At some point the MP's will change for the good, just to please you, but after sometime they'll go back to being an MP because of monetary and physical needs that they have been accustomed at. I say, we can fall in love, or in lust with an MP but for a limited time only. ;)

 

let's not generalize ;)

 

the truth seldom does. stripped to its barest, love simply is -- a choice

 

Agree! God Bless YOU! :D

 

I look forward to your intelligent response.

 

I understand...so now you're saying...Thug doesn't really mean everything he's saying...like it's just some sort of a defense mechanism? and that we oughtta understand the guy's sentiments...ayt....

exactly what i said way back.

 

because before she had time for me.. she used to be so sweet with me.. now she starts to talk like Rosanna Roces..

and somehow i notice she seems to be enjoying her job.. :(

 

like I said....the girl has friends too...friends who give her advice...and the way you're treating her....it wouldn't be any surprise if all her friends are against you...for your own sake.. please be open minded about these things. :flowers:

 

i guess it also depends.. i figure out only lowly prostitutes has the reason not to enjoy their job..

 

 

ang babaw naman THUG....kung ano man yung nakakailig sa work namin....o ka enjoy-enjoy...whatever...they're all fleeting....at the end of the day...when a prosti is all alone...by herself.... i don't think any prosti can claim that she is really Happy being the way she is....pwera na lang siguro kung napakapangit nya na napakabobo...na napakalaking pasasalamat nya at kahit pano natanggap pa sya kahit prosti.

 

 

with your current gf....all i can say is....we all get what we deserve :hypocritesmiley:

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me? everytime i fell in love to my clients i always included him to all my plans in life, dreaming that maybe this man is the one i can grow old with, im so happy to think that maybe it can be happen someday. Yes, its really hard to move on after the happy moment, having intimate moments the love u earned and give. oh well thats part of life, to love and to get hurt. Thats all i've got. :(

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me? everytime i fell in love to my clients i always included him to all my plans in life, dreaming that maybe this man is the one i can grow old with, im so happy to think that maybe it can be happen someday. Yes, its really hard to move on after the happy moment, having intimate moments the love u earned and give. oh well thats part of life, to love and to get hurt. Thats all i've got. :(

 

 

everytime sis? i think you must learn how to discern....the real ones from the not-so-real ones.

reality check lang sis. luv you ;)

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me? everytime i fell in love to my clients i always included him to all my plans in life, dreaming that maybe this man is the one i can grow old with, im so happy to think that maybe it can be happen someday. Yes, its really hard to move on after the happy moment, having intimate moments the love u earned and give. oh well thats part of life, to love and to get hurt. Thats all i've got. :(

 

:D , you know miss, the reason they "hire" ladies nowadays is that they are lonely, longing for a goodtime, is sick with their wives, hungers for sex and pleasure, escort and basically the "sex" part. So I wouldnt consider you falling in love with your clients, a rich guy without a wife?thats impossible,hmm 1 in a million?maybe his gay. What I recomend though is for you to try finding a more suitable guy to be with, nakikipagkilala, sorry if there are a lot of guys out there that you consider as a jerk, but I can assure you that not all men are jerks, some are sweet and cool, like those who think they are losers but theyre not. Love is a give and take process, give love but not too much, and not too little, you might get burned in the end.

 

Chao.. :)

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QUOTE(LoveSpell @ Apr 13 2007, 11:32 AM)

 

me? everytime i fell in love to my clients i always included him to all my plans in life, dreaming that maybe this man is the one i can grow old with, im so happy to think that maybe it can be happen someday. Yes, its really hard to move on after the happy moment, having intimate moments the love u earned and give. oh well thats part of life, to love and to get hurt. Thats all i've got.

 

 

everytime sis? i think you must learn how to discern....the real ones from the not-so-real ones.

reality check lang sis. luv you ;)

 

 

... that is true... we often miskate attraction from love. so its better to learn how to discern.

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QUOTE(LoveSpell @ Apr 13 2007, 11:32 AM)

 

me? everytime i fell in love to my clients i always included him to all my plans in life, dreaming that maybe this man is the one i can grow old with, im so happy to think that maybe it can be happen someday. Yes, its really hard to move on after the happy moment, having intimate moments the love u earned and give. oh well thats part of life, to love and to get hurt. Thats all i've got.

... that is true... we often miskate attraction from love. so its better to learn how to discern.

 

an unsolicited advice... it takes a lot of maturity to distinguish mere attraction from love.

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me? everytime i fell in love to my clients i always included him to all my plans in life, dreaming that maybe this man is the one i can grow old with, im so happy to think that maybe it can be happen someday. Yes, its really hard to move on after the happy moment, having intimate moments the love u earned and give. oh well thats part of life, to love and to get hurt. Thats all i've got. :(

 

now here's lovespell who seems to be enjoying her job and is proud of it. She even posts FR's about her encounters with her clients on the other thread..

 

see what i mean.. not all of them regret and feel pain about what they are doing.. otherwise they will just forget about it...instead of even telling the world what happened between her and the client..

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