Gringo* Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 MJ pa rin.. kc he is really a game changer.. during 90's halos sya ang mukha ng basketball.. until now pag may bagong player lagi kinukumpara sa kanya.. stats probably tells you he's behind pero kc there are lot of things in Basketball na di nakikita sa stats.. The impact he made was special... Quote Link to comment
Duel of Fate Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I still have to vote for mj. Ā Yes, jordan couldnt have done it without pippen or grant or paxson or rodman or kukoc but... they tried but failed to do it without him rin Ā Another thing, "transcending" is synonymous to lifting it up the next level. Meaning getting out of the comfort zone & establishing dominance somewhere else. The nba did that with jordan: suddenly non-basketball fans were watching because of him. The dream team became THE dream team because it was led by jordan. Ā Jerry west? Baylor? They were the starters. Bill Russel? Most rings but didnt change the world of basketball.Jabaar? His stint was too short lived. So was magic johnsonLarry bird? "The great white hope" was a bit political & he didnt really break free from it. Iverson? Tmac? Grant hill? Arenas? Yao ming? All didnt materialize solid enough.Lebron? Kobe? Legends in their own right but on a different category altogether.Ā Jordan is the GOAT simply because he became bigger than the Bulls. Bigger than the NBA. Bigger than Nike. Bigger than the 90s. He became Basketball itself. You cant say Michael Jordan without relating him to basketball himself; you cant say basketball without mentioning Jordan. Quote Link to comment
Eddy Syet Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) you may have overlooked some facts in your argument.Ā 1. dennis rodman won two championships BEFORE jordan won his ( as an important member of the detroit pistons).Ā 2. kareem abdul jabbar played for 20 seasonsĀ 3. jerry west and elgin baylor came AFTER bill russel.so mr. russell should be the "starter".Ā 4. larry bird being political. he shied away from controversy, he just played his heart out.Ā im not trying to be a flamer but maybe because he was the most flamboyant and flashiest nba player, many fans of the game see him as the greatest of all time. i agree that he is ONE of the greatest but in my opinion he is NOT the greatest of all timeĀ Syet, I keep seeing your posts shooting down or challenging people's opinions and yet you haven't dropped a name. Not fair. Who's the greatest for you then? Edited October 23, 2015 by Eddy Syet Quote Link to comment
jk401 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 MJ! Take all my votes. Quote Link to comment
Eddy Syet Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Sorry i didnt mean to challenge anyone here but im just arguing my point.Ā i dont consider a single basketball player as the greatest (because its so subjective) but i do consider quite a lot of players as some of the greatest that ever played. Here's my humble list (in no particular order)Ā Oscar robertsonMagic johnsonJason kiddĀ Michael jordanLebron jamesKobe bryantĀ Larry birdClyde drexlerJulius ervingĀ Charles barkleyTim duncanKevin mchaleĀ Bill russellKareem abdul jabbarShaquille o neilHakeem olajuwonĀ IMHO these players are the greatest ever to play the gameĀ Nice list. The question, I believe, was meant to be subjective though. Who FOR YOU is the greatest ever? Quote Link to comment
Guiness Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 The Best players to play at their positionĀ PG - Magic JohnsonSG - Michael JordanSF - Larry BirdPF - Tim DuncanC - Hakeem OlajuwonĀ this would be my top 5Ā but overall best player based on what i saw "eye test" and on stats it would be MJ. this guy plays both ends of the court Offensively and Defensively. Everybody knows about that this guy can score. But i don't know if people give him too much credit for his defense. Mind you, he was once voted Defensive Player of the Yearand he was on the all nba defense first team list 9 timesĀ 1987-1993 then again on the all nba defense first team from 1995-1998. the gap from 1993-1995 were the years he was away from basketball and was playing baseball. the other years he wasn't on the list were his rookie year, 2nd year was his ankle injury that sidelined him for 60+ plus games, and the wizards years. but the other years he played, he was always 1st team defense.Ā i consider this player great since he dominates both ends of the court. not sure if anyone can make a case for the other players who are offensive geniuses but not that good on defense.Ā so i vote MJ as the greatest basketball player overall. Quote Link to comment
Eddy Syet Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 The Best players to play at their positionĀ PG - Magic JohnsonSG - Michael JordanSF - Larry BirdPF - Tim DuncanC - Hakeem OlajuwonĀ this would be my top 5Ā but overall best player based on what i saw "eye test" and on stats it would be MJ. this guy plays both ends of the court Offensively and Defensively. Everybody knows about that this guy can score. But i don't know if people give him too much credit for his defense. Mind you, he was once voted Defensive Player of the Yearand he was on the all nba defense first team list 9 timesĀ 1987-1993 then again on the all nba defense first team from 1995-1998. the gap from 1993-1995 were the years he was away from basketball and was playing baseball. the other years he wasn't on the list were his rookie year, 2nd year was his ankle injury that sidelined him for 60+ plus games, and the wizards years. but the other years he played, he was always 1st team defense.Ā i consider this player great since he dominates both ends of the court. not sure if anyone can make a case for the other players who are offensive geniuses but not that good on defense.Ā so i vote MJ as the greatest basketball player overall.Ā And he also lead the league in steals once or twice. Quote Link to comment
ray321 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 no one touches MJ for this Quote Link to comment
bambolbhi26 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Michael Jordan "GOAT" Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarank1/all-nbarank-1Ā a nice read Quote Link to comment
Red_Flame Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Jordan, lets face it....Larry and Magic runners-up Quote Link to comment
BennyChang Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) MJ is the best of all time Edited March 5, 2016 by bigbert23 Quote Link to comment
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