Larry Legend or King James

[dfgvan]

Since we are getting off topic at the other thread:

 

Lebron James

Regular Season

GP GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG

Career 689 688 39.8 .484 .331 .747 7.2 6.8 1.7 .8 27.6

 

PlayOffs

Career 115 115 43.4 .469 .312 .745 8.7 6.7 1.7 1.0 28.5

 

 

Larry Bird

Regular Season

GP GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG

Career[17] 897 870 38.4 .496 .376 .886 10.0 6.3 1.7 0.8 24.3

 

PlayOffs

Career[17] 164 162 42.0 .472 .321 .890 10.3 6.5 1.8 0.9 23.8

 

 

 

Aside from these let's look at the skill sets, for each skill pick who is better:

Shooting

Ball Handling

Rebounding

Passing (Not limited to assists)

Steals

Blocks

Off Ball Movement

On Ball Defense

Off Ball Defense

Slashing

Post Up

Physicality/Strength

Jumping

Dunking

 

No Intangibles like heart, clutch, leadership, etc.

 

I'll Start

Shooting Bird

Ball Handling Bird

Rebounding Bird

Passing(Not just assists) Tied

Steals Tied

Blocks Tied

Off Ball Movement Bird

On Ball Defense LBJ

Off Ball Defense Bird

Slashing LBJ

Post Up Bird

Physicality/Strength Bird

Jumping LBJ

Dunking LBJ

Edited October 9, 2012 by dfgvan

[Jasonkidd]

hehe.. ginawan tlga ng thread.. cge tignan natin boto ng tao.. LBJ ako

thats 1-1

[alberto_]

hahahaha. ayos to.

right now, ill go for bird.

but most probably my choice will change lets say 7 to 8 years from now, considering that lebron is currently writing his own legacy

[Little John]

larry bird my idol

[dencio]

Shooting - Bird

Ball Handling - Lebron

Rebounding - Bird

Passing (Not limited to assists) - Lebron

Steals - Bird

Blocks - Lebron

Off Ball Movement - Bird

On Ball Defense - Lebron

Off Ball Defense - Bird

Slashing - Lebron

Post Up - Lebron

Physicality/Strength - Lebron

Jumping - Lebron

Dunking - Lebron

 

how about durability? I think this should be added.

[dfgvan]

Shooting - Bird

Ball Handling - Lebron

Rebounding - Bird

Passing (Not limited to assists) - Lebron

Steals - Bird

Blocks - Lebron

Off Ball Movement - Bird

On Ball Defense - Lebron

Off Ball Defense - Bird

Slashing - Lebron

Post Up - Lebron

Physicality/Strength - Lebron

Jumping - Lebron

Dunking - Lebron

 

how about durability? I think this should be added.

 

well yes we should add durability

 

post up - lebron??? really... bird is not merely a shooter he posts up pfs and sfs... he's a post up player

strength - lebron??? really... during bird's time there was a no harm no foul.... badboys... no handcheck... plus bird guards centers and pfs...

[alberto_]

how about adding the career averages on turnovers and personal fouls per game??

[dencio]

well yes we should add durability

 

post up - lebron??? really... bird is not merely a shooter he posts up pfs and sfs... he's a post up player

 

>> Agree that Bird can play post up but only when needed. He played more on the perimeter - leaving the paint to Parish and McHale. During the latter part of his career, when he was ranged against quicker SFs, he played more PF on offense.

 

strength - lebron??? really... during bird's time there was a no harm no foul.... badboys... no handcheck... plus bird guards centers and pfs...

 

>> Well, if we are basing this skill on the era on which both of them played, then we really wouldn't know would we? It would also be easy to say that given Lebron's body (ala Karl Malone) he would have been able to impose his strength on other players in the 80s.

 

I'm basing my reply on the physical evidence - Lebron has the bigger, more muscular body therefore it follows that he's the stronger player.

 

[*kalel*]

will go for larry...

[harmless0810]

bird. sabi nga dun sa blue chips, can't run, can't jump, bad back...hindi hadlang

[dfgvan]

>> Agree that Bird can play post up but only when needed. He played more on the perimeter - leaving the paint to Parish and McHale. During the latter part of his career, when he was ranged against quicker SFs, he played more PF on offense.

 

>> Well, if we are basing this skill on the era on which both of them played, then we really wouldn't know would we? It would also be easy to say that given Lebron's body (ala Karl Malone) he would have been able to impose his strength on other players in the 80s.

 

I'm basing my reply on the physical evidence - Lebron has the bigger, more muscular body therefore it follows that he's the stronger player.

 

 

Even before Mchale would slide to center he would play pf or when Kleine was playing center and mchale was on the bench he would play pf.

Lebron has no post up move. Bird has the baseline spin, the fadeaway, the drop step to the middle and a very efficient jump hook with either hand.

Now can you compare whose post up is better? bird or james?

 

Tim Bradley has a more muscular body than pacquiao. Why is it that pacquiao has a better KO percentage? pangit ng analogy ko hahahaha.

What I mean is, I am basing the strength on how they played the game.

[Jasonkidd]

ouch lamang a c Bird hehe.. let them choose.. wala muna arguments.. haha

[dfgvan]

ok Jason...

 

sige...

 

hanggang kelan ang botohan natin dito?

hehehe

[Jasonkidd]

hehe.. go lng ng go.. malalaman namn natin e..

[bill_262003]

Aside from the Stat lines posted by the Thread starter, here's my opinion:

 

Shooting: Bird

Ball Handling: Lebron

Rebounding: Bird

Passing (Not limited to assists): Bird

Steals: Even

Blocks: Even

Off Ball Movement: Bird

On Ball Defense: Lebron

Off Ball Defense: Bird

Slashing: Lebron

Post Up: Bird

Physicality: Bird

Strength: Lebron

Jumping: Lebron

Dunking: Lebron

 

Note: I separated Physicality from Strength. For me physicality is how rugged is your play and how much of your body are you willing to sacrifice to bang with other players. Strength is no doubt Lebron. But he is nowhere near Bird in terms of Physicality.

 

At this stage of Lebron's career versus Bird, I vote for Bird.

 

Now if you consider the other intangibles.... the voting would be more lopsided.