Blxst Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 After the ruling from the Hague, there really is no question regarding our economic and exploratory rights in the West Philippine Sea and the CCP's infringement of those rights and invasion of our waters. We didn't before, but now the CCP and those in the international community that side with the CCP have no real argument. While the CCP did not send a delegation to appear before the Court in the Hague, they still made a point to submit a position paper that the Hague had no jurisdiction and that their ruling would have no effect. The former is false and the latter is partly true because the UN and it's courts do not have policing authority to compel sovereign nations. Until we develop a sufficient level of defensive force over the West Philippine Sea, either on our own or through cooperation with other ASEAN members, the CCP will not cease its bullying and forceful takeover of our sovereign rights. Quote Link to comment
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camiar Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 11/15/2023 at 9:35 AM, Blxst said: After the ruling from the Hague, there really is no question regarding our economic and exploratory rights in the West Philippine Sea and the CCP's infringement of those rights and invasion of our waters. We didn't before, but now the CCP and those in the international community that side with the CCP have no real argument. While the CCP did not send a delegation to appear before the Court in the Hague, they still made a point to submit a position paper that the Hague had no jurisdiction and that their ruling would have no effect. The former is false and the latter is partly true because the UN and it's courts do not have policing authority to compel sovereign nations. Until we develop a sufficient level of defensive force over the West Philippine Sea, either on our own or through cooperation with other ASEAN members, the CCP will not cease its bullying and forceful takeover of our sovereign rights. The Hague ruling on South China Sea territorial dispute has no effect on China because we cannot impose our sovereignty over our UNCLOS-based extended territory. We need to spend to acquire more deep-sea capable, high-endurance, off-shore patrol vessels distributed among the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR), Philippine Coast Guard (PCG), and the Philippine Navy (PN) to make our presence felt and deter other countries (Vietnam, Malaysia, and China) from being too aggressive. We're lagging too far behind in the "Might-is-Right" gunboat diplomacy. Quote Link to comment
Blxst Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 On 12/1/2023 at 10:51 PM, camiar said: The Hague ruling on South China Sea territorial dispute has no effect on China because we cannot impose our sovereignty over our UNCLOS-based extended territory. We need to spend to acquire more deep-sea capable, high-endurance, off-shore patrol vessels distributed among the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR), Philippine Coast Guard (PCG), and the Philippine Navy (PN) to make our presence felt and deter other countries (Vietnam, Malaysia, and China) from being too aggressive. We're lagging too far behind in the "Might-is-Right" gunboat diplomacy. True, I fully agree. I wish we had the option of speaking softly and walking with a big stick. But, we should still use rule of law diplomacy to chip away at the CCP's soft power while we develop our naval defense capabilities. Like, mentioning it every time the CCP incites an incident. I haven't been watching all the news on it, so it's possible the naval officials that make appearances have been saying it, but I think they should if they haven't. However, I recognize that diplomatic matters are up to the President. I actually haven't heard of Malaysia or Vietnam's aggression against the Philippines and feel that we should make stronger alliances with our ASEAN neighbors, in general, since the nine dash line affects all of South East Asia. But if they are hostile, we should still form alliances with other countries to strengthen support against CCP aggression. Quote Link to comment
oriar Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Fight'for our beloved country and rights'... Quote Link to comment
Magic Circle Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 17 hours ago, oriar said: Fight'for our beloved country and rights'... Easy to say but hardest part is how to do it successfully. Quote Link to comment
oriar Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 We don't have enough fire power to counter... Quote Link to comment
oriar Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Easy to say..., So sad. Quote Link to comment
reverselookup Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Taasan ang budget ng AFP Quote Link to comment
Jaymsjags007 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 On 12/2/2023 at 2:51 PM, camiar said: The Hague ruling on South China Sea territorial dispute has no effect on China because we cannot impose our sovereignty over our UNCLOS-based extended territory. We need to spend to acquire more deep-sea capable, high-endurance, off-shore patrol vessels distributed among the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR), Philippine Coast Guard (PCG), and the Philippine Navy (PN) to make our presence felt and deter other countries (Vietnam, Malaysia, and China) from being too aggressive. We're lagging too far behind in the "Might-is-Right" gunboat diplomacy. Just read this now and agree with you 100%. We need to do this right now, we cannot trust our ASEAN neighbors because they are under the Chinese payroll (especially Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos and Malaysia), are Chinese (Singapore) and have many trade relations with China (Thailand, Indonesia). Vietnam even has opposing claims with us. Sa totoo lang, Pinas is alone and we need the US Quote Link to comment
Din Djarin Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 That cry for help of "Tama na Lord" from one of the crews ng Unaizah Mae 4 nung recent water cannon incident. Sobrang nakakagalit at nakakapikon na. And I guess that's what China wants. Provoke us, but then again, we don't stand a chance since our navy, military, marines, and airforce (well I guess I just have to say this) sucks! Quote Link to comment
pinktounge Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 the budget of the armed forces needs to increased at make sure na mapunta sa improvements at hindi sa mga kurakot na nasa taas so we can defend our teritory Quote Link to comment
m1stersag1ng Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 kung hindi lang din natin ibibigay ang kailangan ng mga sundalo/navy natin para gawin ang trabaho nila ng maayos, wag nalang natin ilaban.. kawawa naman ang mga mamamtay dahil sa powerplay na nangyayari.. kung tayo ngang ordinaryong tao walang ginagawa eh how can we expect the navy to risk their lives Quote Link to comment
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