heatseeker0714 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 No. Diplomacy plays a major role, but it's not enough. We also have to strengthen our external defense capability to patrol and impose our sovereignty over our borders and Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ). We don't have to be too noisy about it. 1.) Diplomacy with backbone and noise but not actually pushing for war. 2.) Agreed. 3.) Yes we do need to be noisy about it. Silence or murmured disagreement is tantamount to implied approval. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3.) Yes we do need to be noisy about it. Silence or murmured disagreement is tantamount to implied approval. Action, not noise. During the time of Pres. Ramos, whenever China erects markers in shoals and rock formations within our EEZ, the Phil Navy promptly blows it up. But they don't make any noise in media about it. The Chinese, and the Americans knew about it, though. They also drive away Chinese fishing poachers, arresting some of them. The reports of Chinese poachers who were arrested were treated as regular police issue. That's how we should do it. Walk quietly and carry the biggest stick that you can. Quote Link to comment
Behlat Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Nakakatawa so Tolentino sa Senado, magpi- privilege speech di Naman pala hands, nasabon tuloy ng husto ni Porky Drilon. Ganyan talaga kapag nag-lawyer Lang para maging politico. Btw, may grupo ng Chingchong Ang namataang nagpipicture taking sa isang naval facility sa Palawan. #tourismyourface. Quote Link to comment
juan t Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Action, not noise. During the time of Pres. Ramos, whenever China erects markers in shoals and rock formations within our EEZ, the Phil Navy promptly blows it up. But they don't make any noise in media about it. The Chinese, and the Americans knew about it, though. They also drive away Chinese fishing poachers, arresting some of them. The reports of Chinese poachers who were arrested were treated as regular police issue. That's how we should do it. Walk quietly and carry the biggest stick that you can. so whats wrong with making some noise? Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 so whats wrong with making some noise?Actions speak louder than words. That's the gist. Quote Link to comment
Supa.Chill'n Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Consistency counts, too. Whatever diplomatic strategy we should be employing, the Philippines should be consistent. Quote Link to comment
juan t Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Actions speak louder than words. That's the gist. ok, so what actions are being taken exactly? cause i sure don't see any. Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 ok, so what actions are being taken exactly? cause i sure don't see any.The Philippines recently filed a diplomatic protest. Quote Link to comment
juan t Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 The Philippines recently filed a diplomatic protest. wait what? diplomatic protest?! isnt that "noise"? and why only now, after 3 years? yun ba ang tawag na "actions speak louder than words"? Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Actions speak louder than words. That's the gist. Singapore, the smallest nation in South East Asia, does exactly that. When a Filipina maid killed a Singaporean child, they QUIETLY sentenced her to death and executed her--- despite the diplomatic pressure from other countries vs. death penalty and noisy rallies of human rights groups in the Philippines. Singapore considers Malaysia as a military threat. There was a time when Malaysia started building up their Air force, Singapore was feeling wary of a Malaysian capability of a military first strike, but instead of making noise about it, they QUIETLY redeployed some of their army and air force assets to Brunei, Australia, New Zealand, Philippines, Thailand etc... through "training agreements", giving Malaysia the subtle message that they cannot catch Singapore off-guard. If you want to gain respect of others, do what you have to do quietly. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) wait what? diplomatic protest?! isnt that "noise"? and why only now, after 3 years? yun ba ang tawag na "actions speak louder than words"?Diplomatic protest is not noise. It is done quietly, in diplomatic letters, or a diplomatic meeting with the foreign ambassador summoned by President to Malacanang. In foreign relations, such meetings speak louder than the noisiest of rallies outside the embassy. The DFA files diplomatic protests often. We just don't hear much about it. Kasi nga, quiet. Edited August 2, 2019 by camiar Quote Link to comment
juan t Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Diplomatic protest is not noise. It is done quietly, in diplomatic letters, or a diplomatic meeting with the foreign ambassador summoned by President to Malacanang. In foreign relations, such meetings speak louder than the noisiest of rallies outside the embassy. The DFA files diplomatic protests often. We just don't hear much about it. Kasi nga, quiet. hmmm. so let me get this straight. so dati pa pala tayo nag po-protest.but the media and the people and pretty much the rest of the world dont know about it because "quiet". but you and will robie knew about it ever since? Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) hmmm. so let me get this straight. so dati pa pala tayo nag po-protest.but the media and the people and pretty much the rest of the world dont know about it because "quiet". but you and will robie knew about it ever since?Those people who are aware, know about it. Some of them can even predict that a diplomatic protest would be filed as a result of a certain event. To the media, most of these are boring stuff so they print only the sensational ones or those that are released by DFA or by Malacanang for public knowledge. Of course, like most pinoys, much of the rest of the world don't know about it. If most pinoys like you don't care to know about diplomatic protests, why would you expect the rest of the world to be interested in knowing about it? Edited August 2, 2019 by camiar Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) wait what? diplomatic protest?! isnt that "noise"? and why only now, after 3 years? yun ba ang tawag na "actions speak louder than words"?You asked me what the government did, right? I merely answered you. As for your second question, it is irrelevant because it does not matter if they filed it 3 years ago, today or 2 years from now. It has been filed and that's what is important. Edited August 3, 2019 by will robie Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 ^^^ the questions are irrelevant because he asked it out of ignorance on the subject matter. He just can't believe that we know something he is clueless about. Quote Link to comment
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