South China/West Philippine Sea

[camiar]

For Duterte and the DDS, the only way to solve this is either to let China do what it wants in the WPS freely... or go to war. For them, there's no middle ground (diplomacy).

 

...and regarding their silent protest? Is that like cursing under your breath?

Silent Protest? Cursing under your breath? You're clueless on diplomacy and bilateral relations.

 

Diplomatic Protest is a strong action when it comes to bilateral relationship between countries. It follows diplomatic protocol, giving notice of your complaint without harsh or angry words. It is a hundred times more effective in getting the other party to respond positively than staging a noisy rally outside the embassy.

[tk421]

So... are you saying Im right that the Duterte admin doesnt know anything about diplomacy? Because the examples below did not follow diplomatic protocol and they were given with he harshest words and with seething anger.

 

It follows diplomatic protocol, giving notice of your complaint without harsh or angry words.

duterte to obama: "p ina I will swear at you,"

duterte to UN special rapporteur Callamard T niya, sabihin mo. Huwag niya ako takutin. P- niya. G pala siya eh,

Pope --ina ka, umuwi ka na. Wag ka nang magbisita dito.

Ok, the last one wih the pope is still in the gray area since he was not even a president at the time. But still, it shows how his kind of diplomacy (or lack of it) works.

 

So ano ang protocols sa SEA diplomacy? Kung meron man silang na file na protest, asan ang mga paper trails? Kasi without visible paper trails (diplomatic protocol, sabi mo) para saan pa ang protesta mo? Parang bumubulong ka lang sa sarili mo. O di kaya imaginary protest lang yun ginagawa nila kasi wala naman ibang witness.

 

Parang yun sources mo lang... imaginary kasi ikaw lang ang nakaka alam.

Edited August 1, 2018 by tk421

[Calvin Chua]

The Chinese are now building a full military facility within our property. I know the Jetski is a just a joke but this isnt what i was expecting. This is our property.

[darksoulriver]

The Chinese are now building a full military facility within our property. I know the Jetski is a just a joke but this isnt what i was expecting. This is our property.

 

well yup isang campaign stunt / joke lng yung jetski ni PDUTS

 

bkit nga ba humantong sa ganitong sitwasyon ang WPS

 

bawal ang manisi hahaha

[flatwall]

For the meantime yng economic purpose muna pra patuloy ang pg Lago ng ekomiya pra mbawasn ang Un employment.

[jimithing]

Duterte slams China's 'nasty words' to PHL pilots

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/664558/duterte-slams-china-s-nasty-words-to-phl-pilots/story/

ngayon bumaliktad?

[tk421]

Na corner na sya kasi. Kung hindi naging public yun radio exchanges nun PH aircraft at yun Chinese radioman, siguro tahimik pa din yan hanggang ngayon.

[camiar]

The Chinese are now building a full military facility within our property. I know the Jetski is a just a joke but this isnt what i was expecting. This is our property.

The contested area IS NOT our property. Not yet.

 

We claim it as our Exclusive Economic Zone. We're supposed to have exclusive rights in exploiting the area for economic purposes, according to UNCLOS. But neither China nor USA is signatory to it.

 

Moreover, we have overlapping claims with our neighboring countries such as Vietnam, Malaysia, Taiwan and China.

 

China is not even considering the contested areas as their EEZ. They have redrawn their borders and claim that the entire South China Sea is their Sovereign Territory.

 

Until we have settled the ovelapping issues, diplomatically or militarily, with our contesting neighbors, it's just empty words to say that it is our property.

 

Let's build our military capability to defend our sovereignty. Only then can we replace empty words with real muscle.

Edited August 18, 2018 by camiar

[flatwall]

Hayaan n lng c Digong mg decide tngkl dyn

[Soraoi_empire]

Wala na ba latest news about WPS?

[akosiJP]

Sad to say kahit anong gawin natin di na yan mababawi. Imagine nalaman na lang natin nung nag bubuild na sila sa palagay ko kapwa din natin may kinalaman dyan kong bakit nakuha yan. Kaya kahit ano pa gawin ng president o ng gobyerno Wala na sila magagawa nakaka-lungkot lang.

Agree. Kung di na talaga mabawi, kahit hati na lang sa kung ano man makukuhang resources dun.

Edited March 9, 2019 by akosiJP

[camiar]

Sad to say kahit anong gawin natin di na yan mababawi. Imagine nalaman na lang natin nung nag bubuild na sila sa palagay ko kapwa din natin may kinalaman dyan kong bakit nakuha yan. Kaya kahit ano pa gawin ng president o ng gobyerno Wala na sila magagawa nakaka-lungkot lang.

 

 

Agree. Kung di na talaga mabawi, kahit hati na lang sa kung ano man makukuhang resources dun.

 

What we need to do is be steadfast in our sovereignty claim. We have legal basis based on UNCLOS agreement.

 

We have the Arbitral Court ruling in our favor. The only problem at present is that we are not yet strong enough to enforce it.

 

So in the meantime, we take the pragmatic approach. We use diplomacy, friendly foreign relations, and spirit of cooperation and sharing.

 

At the same time we continue to build our strength to stand up on our own.

 

We should rely on the USA or our neighbors to protect out own interest and sovereignty.

[darksoulriver]

Only those in Malacanang alam kung ano talaga sitwasyon at kalagayan sa WPS

 

kung ano napapanood sa TV at nababasa natin sa dyaryo may mas higit pang impormasyon ang hawak ni Du30

 

hawak nga natin yung rulling ang problema yung enforcing nito!

 

pero hindi dapat natin pababayaan ang Pagasa Island.

[rooster69ph]

di nga dapat pabayaan ang pagasa isaland ...

 

so ano nga ba ang ginagawa ng pamahalaan dutae sa problema ng enforcement?

 

kung wala eh di parang pinabayaan na rin natin in action di lang natin pinabayaan in words

[bosorero]

Bakit ba kasi pi atalsik mga us bases