NooB Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 He does not. As President, DU30 has no choice but to support the Arbitral Tribunal's ruling which does not recognize China's nine-dashed-line "historical" claim and instead favors the Philippines' UNCLOS continental-shelf definition as basis for our claims. We also have valid historical claims backed up with stronger documentary evidence that what the Chinese have, and at the same time, we have submitted strong arguments with historical data that disprove China's "historical" claims. But obviously we are militarily and economically too weak to directly confront China to enforce the ruling. We still have to do it through diplomatic maneuvering. Winning the hearts and minds of the Chinese in part of the equation. All DU30's talk is to project an independent stand in international policy and create an impression to the ordinary Chinese people that the Philippines is getting friendlier and warming up closer to China. The Chinese government, of course, knows that DU30's statements are merely crude attempts at pretending to be independent from the US. But the ordinary Chinese don't know that. It helps a lot in China's internal politics if the Chinese citizenry hear his statements, become less antagonistic against the Philippines so that they will not create an uproar if their government backs down on its aggressiveness in South China Sea and agree to concessions favorable to the Philippines.Totoo ba yan? O interpretasyon mo lang? Quote Link to comment
everyman Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 ^ Typical of any Duterte pronouncement cum rant cum off-the-cuff remarks, everybody is free to make his own interpretation. Sabi nga ni Abella, "use your creative imagination" Quote Link to comment
gamehunter Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Looks like treason... http://globalnation.inquirer.net/146529/duterte-says-ph-cant-win-in-scarborough-shoal Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) Totoo ba yan? O interpretasyon mo lang? That's realpolitik - political principles based on practical rather than moral or ideological considerations. Sa tingin mo ba merong hindi totoo sa nabasa mo? Edited October 11, 2016 by camiar Quote Link to comment
Kapote Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Looks like treason... http://globalnation.inquirer.net/146529/duterte-says-ph-cant-win-in-scarborough-shoal Care to explain where is the treason in that? Quote Link to comment
batman-robin Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 wala sana tayong problema kung nandyan pa yung us base sa subic. nagkaproblema lang naman tayo nung umalis yung mga kano dyan at nung nawala saka na sumingit yung mga intsik. blame it on the senators who voted to get rid of the bases without thinking of the implications. kulang sila sa foresight. just making an opinion. Quote Link to comment
nobody15 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 this issue cannot be resolved in this lifetime, the country needs to have a strong resolved if they want have it Quote Link to comment
everyman Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Duterte's position on China's territorial claim becoming clear Duterte on Filipinos' fishing rights in Scarborough Shoal: 'I leave it to the Chinese authorities' Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Duterte's position on China's territorial claim becoming clear Duterte on Filipinos' fishing rights in Scarborough Shoal: 'I leave it to the Chinese authorities'I guess there goes one of his campaign promise .... Yun mag jet ski papuntang china para ipaglaban ang karapatan ng pilipinas. He surely hates being a lap dog of the US but seems warm to being one of the Chinese. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) Duterte's position on China's territorial claim becoming clear Duterte on Filipinos' fishing rights in Scarborough Shoal: 'I leave it to the Chinese authorities' The entire statement describes that the President pointed out that he will "leave it to Chinese authorities, what they will do in the next few days from now."The report continued that: "...Duterte said he raised it in "private talks" and did not elaborate further...""....Moments before, the President said that both countries "agreed to continue discussions on confidence-building measures, including a bilateral consultation mechanism to discuss immediate issues of concern in South China Sea...." Ang ibig sabihin, me pinag-usapan sila na highly confidential kaya hindi nya sinabi sa Press. Yung resulta ng pinagusapan nila will be shown in Chinese's actions in the next few days.CNN made its banner in such a way that the casual reader will get the impression that Duterte is bowing down to the Chinese. Edited October 22, 2016 by camiar Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 In the next few days, sabi ni Digong. It seems that the Xi Jinping has already ordered the the Chinese Coast Guard stationed at Scarborough Shoal to stop harassing the Filipino fishermen and pull back from the area. In the next few days, we should expect Digong to announce to the fishermen in Zambales and Pangasinan to start fishing again around Scarborough Shoal. Quote Link to comment
red60 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 In the next few days, sabi ni Digong. It seems that the Xi Jinping has already ordered the the Chinese Coast Guard stationed at Scarborough Shoal to stop harassing the Filipino fishermen and pull back from the area. In the next few days, we should expect Digong to announce to the fishermen in Zambales and Pangasinan to start fishing again around Scarborough Shoal. I'm not holding my breath. According to Digong's speech when he came back from China, "China's has the historical rights". This is despite the UNCLOS ruling in our favor. Quote Link to comment
Kapote Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I'm not holding my breath. According to Digong's speech when he came back from China, "China's has the historical rights". This is despite the UNCLOS ruling in our favor. Exactly, UNCLOS ruling states that both Philippines and China have historical rights for fishing. Better check the Arbitral Decision if they decided that fishing in that area is solely for Philippines' consumption only. Because fish travels from one place to another. Drilling of natural gas is another thing. Quote Link to comment
Kapote Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Just to be clear, the arbitral award did not contain any ruling as to who had sovereign ownership of Panatag. It only stated that anyone else was free to fish in Panatag and no one state can prevent anyone else from doing so. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) Marcos ready to ride jetski with Duterte & assert PH sovereignty over Scarborough Shoal Well after what has been said before during the campaign, BBM rode a jet (plane) instead of a jetski with Duterte to China to kiss the Chinese' ass instead of asserting our sovereignty And how pathetic can our President be ... from his initial statement that he will ride a jetski to assert PH sovereignty over Scarborough to this ... hindi pa nga naggigirian isinuko na ang laban. Duterte says PH can’t win in Scarborough ShoalPresident Duterte has a “good feeling” that the Philippines will be “OK” with China as long as the Filipinos do not make the Chinese froth at the mouth by claiming Scarborough Shoal.“We cannot win that,” he said in a speech to residents of Lamitan, Basilan province, on Monday, referring to the traditional fishing ground known to Filipinos as Panatag Shoal that China seized from the Philippines after a two-month maritime standoff in 2012. Edited October 26, 2016 by rooster69ph Quote Link to comment
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