Islam Thread

[cocoy0]

Revenge begets revenge, hindi ba, fellow Christians?

[hellyeah1]

Hiram ko lang sa ibang forum pero ..TAMA ang analysis ng poster

 

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military

components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components. Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to

Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

 

Here's how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the > case in:

United States -- Muslim 0..6%

Australia -- Muslim 1.5%

Canada -- Muslim 1.9%

China -- Muslim 1.8%

Italy -- Muslim 1.5%

Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany -- Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%

Spain -- Muslim 4%

Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%

Philippines -- 5%

Sweden -- Muslim 5%

Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing

car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%

India -- Muslim 13.4%

Israel -- Muslim 16%

Kenya -- Muslim 10%

Russia -- Muslim 15%

after reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%

Chad -- Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%

Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%

Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%

Egypt -- Muslim 90%

Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%

Iran -- Muslim 98%

Iraq -- Muslim 97%

Jordan -- Muslim 92%

Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan -- Muslim 97%

Palestine -- Muslim 99%

Syria -- Muslim 90%

Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%

Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

 

 

[RER]

Historical errors in the Qur'an:

The Historical, Scientific, simple mathematics and theological contradictions in the Qur'an are too numerous to list. Remember, since Muhammad already proclaimed the Jewish Torah/Christian Old Testament (Taurat) as correct in Qur'an 5:46/47 and 43:63 then the following gross errors that differ with the Torah are inexcusable. These errors their selves scream out the Qur'an itself is entirely false. Here are just a few:

 

In Sura 2:241 Muhammad confuses the persons of Saul and Gideon.

 

In Sura 2:55-60 the Israelites were said to be "a scanty band" vastly inferior to the Egyptians. But in Exodus 1:7-10 the Egyptian king said to his people that the Israelites had become "more and mightier than we".

 

The Koran confused the sister of Moses (Miriam) with Mary, the mother of Jesus. In Hebrew, Miriam and Mary are the same names.

 

How many angels were talking to Mary? When the Qur'an speaks about the annunciation of the birth of Jesus to the virgin Mary, Sura 3:42,45 speaks about (several) angels while it is only one in Sura 19:17-21. The Christian Bible clearly indicated one angel; "In the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a town in Galilee called Nazareth," Luke 1:26

 

Muhammad taught that Mary the mother of Jesus was the sister of Aaron and Moses - who lived 1,500 years earlier.

Do you remember the evil Persian Haman who conspired to k*ll all the Jews during the time of Esther in the Babylonian captivity. In the Koran, Muhammad incorrectly taught that this wicked man Haman was the prime minister of the Egyptian Pharaoh. Throughout the Quran--Nimrod and Abraham, Haman and Moses, Mary and Aaron, the tower of Babel and Pharaoh were all pictured as living and working together. Moses and the flood are also incorrectly found together. Muhammad thought these all happened at the same time.

 

What about Noah's son? According to Sura 21:76, Noah and his family is saved from the flood, and Sura 37:77 confirms that his seed survived. But Sura 11:42-43 reports that Noah's son drowns.

 

Sura 7:136, 7:59 say Noah's flood took place in Moses' day. Did anyone tell Moses that?

 

Sura 14:37, says Abraham lived in the valley of Mecca. The Bible says he lived in Hebron, Israel. (Genesis 13:18, 23:2, 35:27)

 

Sura 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, and 25:59 clearly state that God created "the heavens and the earth" in six days. But in 41:9-12 the detailed description of the creation procedure adds up to eight days.

 

Suras 21:51-71; 37:97,98, says that Abraham was thrown into a fire [by Nimrod]. Nimrod and Abraham did not live at the same time. Muhammad was always mixing people together in the Qur'an who did not live at the same time. The Bible tells us Nimrod lived many centuries before Abraham.

 

Sura 6:74, says Abraham (called millata-Ibrahim in the Qur'an) father's name was Azar. The Bible says it was Terah (Genesis 11:27).

 

Sura 12:21ff, says the man who bought Joseph was named Aziz. The Bible says it was Potiphar.

 

Sura 37:100-112, says Abraham went to sacrifice Ishmael. The Bible says it was Issac.

 

Sura 5:73-75,116, Muhammad mistakenly thought the Christian Trinity was 3 gods: the Father, the Mother (Mary), and the Son (Jesus).

 

Sura 28:8-9, says is was Pharaoh's wife who adopted Moses. The Bible says it was Pharaoh's daughter.

 

Sura 9:10, incorrectly says Zacharias could not speak for only three days.

 

Sura 20:87, 95, says the Jews made the golden calf in the wilderness at the suggestion of Samaritans. There were no Samaritans at that time.

 

 

Sura 18:85,86, says that Alexander the Great (Zul-qarinain) followed the setting sun and found that it went down into the waters of a muddy spring. Sura 18:89-98 says Alexander the Great was a Muslim and worshipped Allah and lived to an old age. Actually, Alexander the Great died very young and was by no means a Muslim. The Greek, Alexander the Great lived from 356 - 323 B.C. (Before Jesus). He was 33 years old when he died. Muhammad and Islam did not come along till 610 A.D. (after Jesus), when Muhammad began preaching Allah and his new religion in Mecca. This was over 900 years after Alexander the Great died. Yusuf Ali and the Concise Dictionary of Islam confirm that Zul-qarinain in the Quran is Alexander the Great.

 

The Qur'an also incorrectly says Abrah's army was defeated by birds dropping stones on them. History says Abrah's army withdrew after smallpox broke out. It says; the Kabah was build by Adam and rebuilt by Abraham. It was built by pagans to worship a black rock that fell out of the sky. Abraham never lived in Mecca.

 

 

[Ryuji_tanaka]

now this is disturbing.....

 

http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/childbrides.htm

[ConsistentlyInconsistent]

I am just starting to research about Islam since I am seriously contemplating on "re-converting" to Islam since Muslims believe that Islam is everybody's first religion. There are a lot of information that vary depending on the person you are talking to. The_greenhorny is correct when he said that the perspective depends on the educated and non-educated Muslims as well as cultural upbringing.

 

The information and books lent to me so far all make sense and they are all logical in explaining the answers to most of my unanswered questions. Well, to each his own. Let us live in mutual respect because by the end of the day, regardless of what religion we chose, or what religion chose us, we still have to answer to one Superior being.

 

In sha Allah, everything will fall in their proper places.

[geronimonster]

A friend of mine pointed this out to me, "There are alot of things written in the Qur'an that are now being discovered by Science." And whether it be coincidence, it was written in the Qur'an long before the x-ray machines and modern medicine was in full swing.

 

I am speaking here as an Agnostic, who is looking at Islam from the outside in and I have to say I am pretty amazed so far, especially in the fact that in Islam, the one true God is being worshipped and prayed to, there are no mediators, there are no mediums, or middlemen, prayer is sent directly to God.

 

Interesting.

[cocoy0]

@geronimonster: Lots of people make claims like that.

[LittleZohan]

I'm planning to convert to muslim, what are the things i need to know? can someone help me clearly understand about muslim?

[Ryuji_tanaka]

Any muslims here want to defend the "child marriage" endorsed by their quoran? it says there you can marry and consummate the marriage as soon as the girl has menarche.

[WesternDigital]

allah akbar, salah malaj kum. if you have nothing nice to say about a religion, say nothing. islam is peace.

 

Islam is peaceful, just look at the ME. Middle East is a very very peaceful continent in the world, no suicide bombers in the name of religion. Fellow muslims killing each other (Sunni vs Shiite). How many articles i've read in news websites, a Shiite mosque attacked by a Sunni Suicide Bomber and vice versa. That's peaceful?

 

 

How many Christians died in that continent just because they are christians, and the converts to christianty there life is in danger because they are now infidels. That's peaceful?

 

How many Christian Missionaries died in Africa just because they are Christians. Christian Missionaries help your fellow muslims in africa who are dying in starvation and diseases, and what they do in return? They kidnapped and beheaded Christian Missionaries, that is the exchange of helping a muslim country. That's peaceful?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Ryuji_tanaka]

Maybe he meant peace as in "RIP".

[LYCHEE]

salaamalaikum...ismillah al rahman al rahim....waharatulah mabarakatu!

Edited March 22, 2011 by LYCHEE

[Graham]

You are the creator of your experience because you are an extension of "Source".

Watch the teachings of Abraham in youtube. Search Abraham Hicks.

[kokomonster]

Salaam brothers!

[Ryuji_tanaka]

Lots of muslims vowing vengeance worldwide cause of the death of Sheik Osama Bin Laden. They want to intensify Jihad against Crusader America.

Is this what you call a religion of peace?