Abortion: When Is It Not A Sin?

[MrBadguy]

I firmly believed that abortion is a huge bullsh*t. Kahit ano pang rason.

[MrBadguy]

I firmly believed that abortion is a huge bullsh*t. Kahit ano pang rason.

My beliefs are put to test when a close friend of mine is burrowing money for abortion of his own son. Pinagmumura ko sya habang magkausap kami sa phone. (Good thing dahil kung personal yun baka comatose na sya sa hospital.) Eh kesa naman daw maghirap ang bata at hindi makakain ng maayos. (WTF is wrong with this guy) I told him that i will cover the expenses sa pregnancy ng girlfriend nya, supplements at lahat ng need nila kahit ako na muna ang magalaga wag lang ipalaglag ang bata. In the end ginawa pa din nila. Ayun hindi na kami magkaibigan ngayon, hahaha.

Edited May 28, 2016 by SaintOratorio

[Saint Nemesis]

abortion is against the bible

[tomagants]

abortion will only be applied in the medical world if certain conditons of prolonging life is at stake be it a child or a mother.

 

However , conditions to apply must be deliberately dicussed. Now for unwanted children Gods law forbid us to take life. thou shall not k*ll.

[Warnerdub]

Yes, Im actually not seeing it either. Those versus in no way support the argument that the Bibles words mean something different than it did when it was written.

[airport-noo]

Your body your choice, right? Well the baby's body is not your body. I don't even care about "sin" since I'm agnostic.

 

A doctor explains how its done:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZXQBhTszpU

 

If you want to visualize it (good thing its just an animation):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgw4X7Dw_3k

Edited February 15, 2019 by airport-noo

[Cherprang]

when it is ectopic pregnancy i think

[Kaguya]

if it is necessary for health and medical purposes it os not. but kung para matakasan ang responsibility then it is a Sin

[muad_dib]

Philosophically as a point of clarification...What is a "sin" or what is "evil" to begin with...how would you qualify and quantify it? What value and importance does it hold in your personal belief system? What does the community view say a bout it? What does the Universal World view consider it to be?

 

Is sin a personal, religious or political concept or idea ... what about its nature is considered empirical or concrete (to ground cause and effects)?

 

And then by clarifying those two areas above...we continue on examining the nature of "sin" based on a common and agreed understanding of it and not jump straight to the conditionals that we judge or evaluate using its (sin's) nebulous or single-faceted concept.

 

On the condition presented predicating the question...not to oversimplify a logical decision around it...it's whatever you can personally tolerate and where you can re-establish a comfortable but temporary center given your formed set of moral coding (even in the absence of polarities like good vs. bad/right vs. wrong...we have a secondary default that is a sliding and conditional scale coding for our morals...the OK if or when and the not OK if and when standard)...but do realize that sometimes even if we can logically make a decision based on our moral code...we still want to have it verified "permitted" by others who might share the same code or augment its veracity for assurance and reliability (whether wrong or right will always be subject to our sliding scale moral code...no absolutes...).

 

Side Note:

 

If taking a life is wrong because your are not a God...does taking a life You created make you a God or does it make you cruel?...last time I checked, cruelty is not a God-like credential why people worship their Gods...and if we should strive to be more "God-like" won't taking a life exemplify this as being directly purposeful in emulating "God-hood-like" behaviors? If you were cruel why would it make you feel miserable...Gods are never miserable about "cruelty" it is the foundation of Justice.

 

"Reign in Hell or Serve in Heaven we are all born of one source indestructible, mutable and not-created if that source be called a God...we are all part of a balanced wheel that is set to motion by its ever moving cogs that is in the perpetual state of seeking...balance".

Edited October 14, 2020 by muad_dib

[dodo]

The world can be much better if we stop judging the action of others. Instead, focus on your own faults.

[emsmtc]

Your body, your choice. 

[Harlic]

Depends on what the abortion is for, if its due to well being ng babae (mentally, emotionally and physically) or yung well being ng bata yung matatamaan, then it might not be a sin. 

[rosuvastatin]

Abortion is killing your own child. Can you justify that? Can you kill your own baby?

[Gtayo11]

I dislike it immensely but it is not my choice

[itsmejay]

On 10/2/2021 at 4:18 PM, emsmtc said:

Your body, your choice. 

This. It's not a sin so long as it respects the autonomy of a woman over her body. When the abortion is forced onto her against her choice or interest (e.g. not for medical reasons, in case she is physically unable to provide consent), that's a sin. The key here is always body autonomy.