superfunkibey Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 around 200k to 300k. look for a firm offering "all-in" packages. What a waste of money.. sigh! I read somewhere though that a lawmaker proposed a bill to reduce the costs of such procedures. Hope that pushes through. Quote Link to comment
TanglewoodBoy Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 yup. some firms have psychiatrists "on call". the "package" will cover all expenses and legal fees. incidentally, the estimate is for a Metro Manila case with Metro Manila lawyers. Thanks so much sir!!! Quote Link to comment
okidok Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 What a waste of money.. sigh! I read somewhere though that a lawmaker proposed a bill to reduce the costs of such procedures. Hope that pushes through. It is not a waste of money if you'll ask me!!!!! Peace bro.... Quote Link to comment
intramuros Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I don't know if this is the right thread mga bro kasi may problema ang pamangkin ko na babae ganito yun. kasal sila at may 1 anak na mag 4 yrs/ old na ang mister ng pamangkin ko ay nagkaroon ng kulasisi na ka opismeyt niya sasabihin ko na kung saan nag-work ang lalake at kulasisi sa FEU IT dept. para malaman baka kilala niyo kasi para malaman niyo ang kalawanghiyaan ng lalake ang pamangkin ko ay di siya nag-work. ngayon nahuli ng pamangkin ko ang mister niya ay may iba ngang ka-relasyon ngayon ay hiwalay na sila ng pamangkin ko. nag-usap sila tungkol na lang na sustentuhan na lang ang anak nila bale ang napag usapan ay bibigyan ng Php8k kada sahod ang anak nila. pero unang bigay pa lang ay Php3k lsng sng bigay at sabi ng lalake ay kung ano lang ang kaya niyang bigay yun ang ang mabibigay niya. ang kinakatakot ko ay mag-abroad na ang lalake at hindi na mabigyan ng suporta ang bata. at mawlan ng sustento ang bata at wala naman work ang pamangkin ko kanino po ba ako pwede lumapit para matulungan ko ang pamangkin ko or mabigyan man lang ng hold-order ang lalake para di makapag-abroad baka mayron kayong kilala na abugado na matulungan ang pamangkin ko walang-wla talaga ang pamangkin ko sana po ay may makatulong sa pamangkin ko thnx god bless Quote Link to comment
lomex32 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Infidelity - not grounds for Annulment Na-post na ito before ng mga experts dito Child Support - she can file a case against the good-for-nothing husband- but before, pwede nya kausapin ung office/pinapasukan ng mister nya- idaan ang usapan sa Barangay ang usapin nila tungkol sa supporta ganito yun.ngayon nahuli ng pamangkin ko ang mister niya ay may iba ngang ka-relasyonngayon ay hiwalay na sila ng pamangkin ko. Quote Link to comment
Raven Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) mag-apply sa NSO ng CENOMAR para dun sa babae. kapag lumabas sa record ng NSO na kasal na sa babae bago yung kasal nila ni guy, may problema si guy (kahit "faked" itong kasal, hindi pupwedeng sila-sila ang magsabi na "faked" ito, dapat hukuman ang magdedesisyun ukol dito — dahilan dito, pati yung kasal ni girl at guy ay mawawalang-bisa din). Your advice was followed. Found out that wife previous marriage is registered in the NSO, this means that the wife have a record in NSO both for the first marriage(other guy) and second marriage(husband). Now here is another question. The wife first marriage with a that other guy, this other guy happen to be already married, so this means the wife first marriage is invalid because she is already a second marriage for this other guy. Can the husband use this as a ground for annulment.Does the wife first marriage is considered automatically invalid because the other guy is already married? Do she need to do something to remove this from her NSO record? Edited February 24, 2011 by Raven Quote Link to comment
moridins79 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Your advice was followed. Found out that wife previous marriage is registered in the NSO, this means that the wife have a record in NSO both for the first marriage(other guy) and second marriage(husband). Now here is another question. The wife first marriage with a that other guy, this other guy happen to be already married, so this means the wife first marriage is invalid because she is already a second marriage for this other guy. Can the husband use this as a ground for annulment.Does the wife first marriage is considered automatically invalid because the other guy is already married? Do she need to do something to remove this from her NSO record? Your scenario falls under Article 40 of the Family Code which contemplates a situation where a second or bigamous marriage was contracted. Under Article 40, "[t]he absolute nullity of a previous marriage may be invoked for purposes of remarriage on the basis solely of a final judgment declaring such previous marriage void." Thus:x x x where the absolute nullity of a previous marriage is sought to be invoked for purposes of contracting a second marriage, the sole basis acceptable in law, for said projected marriage to be free from legal infirmity, is a final judgment declaring a previous marriage void. so, if the husband and wife got married prior to the effectivity of the Family Code (in 1998), they're legally married. If not, their marriage is bigamous and the first marriage of the wife may be used by the husband as a ground for declaring their marriage void. Quote Link to comment
Raven Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Your scenario falls under Article 40 of the Family Code which contemplates a situation where a second or bigamous marriage was contracted. Under Article 40, "[t]he absolute nullity of a previous marriage may be invoked for purposes of remarriage on the basis solely of a final judgment declaring such previous marriage void." Thus: so, if the husband and wife got married prior to the effectivity of the Family Code (in 1998), they're legally married. If not, their marriage is bigamous and the first marriage of the wife may be used by the husband as a ground for declaring their marriage void. Moridins thanks for the info ... want to clarify further, let says the 1st Marriage of the girl to the other guy (who is already legally married) was year 1996 and the second marriage is to the husband is 1998. So does the wife and husband marriage is valid? Quote Link to comment
rocco69 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 hindi pa rin. in 1996, effective na ang Family Code. sabi nga, kahit pa walang bisa ang kasal mo, kailangan mo pa rin ng deklarasyon ng hukuman tungkol dito. sa madaling salita, kahit walang bisa ang ang kasal nung babae sa unang lalaki dahil may asawa na ito), kailangan niyang pumunta muna sa korte para ipadeklarang walang bisa ang kasal niya bago siya magpakasal muli. pag basta lang siyang nagpakasal, wala ring bisa ang kasalang yun. Moridins thanks for the info ... want to clarify further, let says the 1st Marriage of the girl to the other guy (who is already legally married) was year 1996 and the second marriage is to the husband is 1998. So does the wife and husband marriage is valid? Quote Link to comment
rocco69 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) dahil menor-de-edad pa lang ang anak nila, pwede niya itong kasuhan ng child abuse (other forms of child abuse ang di pagbibigay sustento sa menor-de-edad na anak). ito rin ay bumabagsak sa violence against women and children, na isa ring krimen. papuntahin mo ang pamangkin mo sa Women's and Childrens Desk sa police station para matulungan siya doon na magsampa ng karampatang kasong kriminal laban sa magaling niyang asawa. dahil kasong kriminal, di na niya kailangan ng abugado pag ito ay nasampa sa korte, fiscal ang abugado niya.dahil ito ay may kulong, siguradong magmamakaawa ang magaling niyang asawa, at magbibigay ng tamang sustento. wag siyang papayag except kasunduan na aaprubahan ng korte (ipapadaan yan sa mediation kung saan ipagkakasundo sila, yun ay inaaprubahan ng korte), para may ngipin ang kasunduan, hindi yung sila sila lang ang magkakasundo. I don't know if this is the right thread mga bro kasi may problema ang pamangkin ko na babae ganito yun. kasal sila at may 1 anak na mag 4 yrs/ old na ang mister ng pamangkin ko ay nagkaroon ng kulasisi na ka opismeyt niya sasabihin ko na kung saan nag-work ang lalake at kulasisi sa FEU IT dept. para malaman baka kilala niyo kasi para malaman niyo ang kalawanghiyaan ng lalake ang pamangkin ko ay di siya nag-work. ngayon nahuli ng pamangkin ko ang mister niya ay may iba ngang ka-relasyon ngayon ay hiwalay na sila ng pamangkin ko. nag-usap sila tungkol na lang na sustentuhan na lang ang anak nila bale ang napag usapan ay bibigyan ng Php8k kada sahod ang anak nila. pero unang bigay pa lang ay Php3k lsng sng bigay at sabi ng lalake ay kung ano lang ang kaya niyang bigay yun ang ang mabibigay niya. ang kinakatakot ko ay mag-abroad na ang lalake at hindi na mabigyan ng suporta ang bata. at mawlan ng sustento ang bata at wala naman work ang pamangkin ko kanino po ba ako pwede lumapit para matulungan ko ang pamangkin ko or mabigyan man lang ng hold-order ang lalake para di makapag-abroad baka mayron kayong kilala na abugado na matulungan ang pamangkin ko walang-wla talaga ang pamangkin ko sana po ay may makatulong sa pamangkin ko thnx god bless Edited February 24, 2011 by rocco69 Quote Link to comment
Raven Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) hindi pa rin. in 1996, effective na ang Family Code. sabi nga, kahit pa walang bisa ang kasal mo, kailangan mo pa rin ng deklarasyon ng hukuman tungkol dito. sa madaling salita, kahit walang bisa ang ang kasal nung babae sa unang lalaki dahil may asawa na ito), kailangan niyang pumunta muna sa korte para ipadeklarang walang bisa ang kasal niya bago siya magpakasal muli. pag basta lang siyang nagpakasal, wala ring bisa ang kasalang yun. rocco .... you mean hindi valid yung kasal nung husband and wife kahit kung titingnan eh hindi naman din valid yung kasal nung wife sa una dahil married na yung other guy ... Sorry medyo makulit tanong ko ... so hindi talaga valid yung kasal ng wife and husband? One more thing ... kung mapawalang bisa ng wife yung unang kasal nya (mapatangal sa NSO record) ... does it mean valid na yung kasal nila ng husband nya? Edited February 28, 2011 by Raven Quote Link to comment
rocco69 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 1. you mean hindi valid yung kasal nung husband and wife kahit kung titingnan eh hindi naman din valid yung kasal nung wife sa una dahil married na yung other guy ... yes, dahil nga kung ikaw ay kasal na (kahit pa talagang walang-bisa ito - dahil ang Estado lamang ang may karapatan na magsabi na walng-bisa ang isang kasal), hindi ka maaaring basta-basta magpakasal ulit. kailangang may deklarasyon mula sa hukuman na walang-bisa ang nauna mong kasal bago ka magpakasal ulit. entonces, hindi talaga valid yung kasal ng wife and husband. 2. kung mapawalang bisa ng wife yung unang kasal nya (mapatangal sa NSO record) ... does it mean valid na yung kasal nila ng husband nya? hindi pa rin. dahil nga nung panahon na magpakasal si husband and wife, walang deklarasyon mula sa hukuman na walang-bisa ang naunang kasal ni wife, ang kanyang pangalawang kasal ay walang-bisa din. kailangan nilang magpakasal ulit after mapawalang-bisa yung unang kasal ni wife. rocco .... you mean hindi valid yung kasal nung husband and wife kahit kung titingnan eh hindi naman din valid yung kasal nung wife sa una dahil married na yung other guy ... Sorry medyo makulit tanong ko ... so hindi talaga valid yung kasal ng wife and husband? One more thing ... kung mapawalang bisa ng wife yung unang kasal nya (mapatangal sa NSO record) ... does it mean valid na yung kasal nila ng husband nya? Quote Link to comment
Raven Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 1. you mean hindi valid yung kasal nung husband and wife kahit kung titingnan eh hindi naman din valid yung kasal nung wife sa una dahil married na yung other guy ... yes, dahil nga kung ikaw ay kasal na (kahit pa talagang walang-bisa ito - dahil ang Estado lamang ang may karapatan na magsabi na walng-bisa ang isang kasal), hindi ka maaaring basta-basta magpakasal ulit. kailangang may deklarasyon mula sa hukuman na walang-bisa ang nauna mong kasal bago ka magpakasal ulit. entonces, hindi talaga valid yung kasal ng wife and husband. 2. kung mapawalang bisa ng wife yung unang kasal nya (mapatangal sa NSO record) ... does it mean valid na yung kasal nila ng husband nya? hindi pa rin. dahil nga nung panahon na magpakasal si husband and wife, walang deklarasyon mula sa hukuman na walang-bisa ang naunang kasal ni wife, ang kanyang pangalawang kasal ay walang-bisa din. kailangan nilang magpakasal ulit after mapawalang-bisa yung unang kasal ni wife. Rocco thanks for clarification ...One last thing ... so if it is invalid (husband and wife marriage) ...ano na pananagutan ng husband sa wife. kelangan pa rin ni husband ipawalang bisa yung kasal nila ng wife nya thru annulment ba para kung gusto nya mag asawa ulit. Pwede ba gawing ground ng husband yung first marriage ng wife to file annulment. Thanks in advance ... Quote Link to comment
rocco69 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 1. ano na pananagutan ng husband sa wife. dahil ang Estado lamang ang may karapatan na magsabi na walang-bisa ang isang kasal, hangga't walang deklarasyon mula sa hukuman na walang-bisa ang kasal nila, sa mata ng batas, mag-asawa pa rin sila. pero dahil nga may-asawa na pala before si babae, pwedeng umayaw si husband na magsuporta ke babae. 2. kelangan pa rin ni husband ipawalang bisa yung kasal nila ng wife nya thru annulment ba para kung gusto nya mag asawa ulit. yes, dahil ang Estado lamang ang may karapatan na magsabi na walang-bisa ang isang kasal. 3. Pwede ba gawing ground ng husband yung first marriage ng wife to file annulment yes (although, technically, hindi ito tinatawag na "annulment", kundi "declaration of nullity"), at hindi rin yung first marriage ni wife per se, kundi yung 1st marriage AND the failure to obtain a declaration of nullity of the 1st marriage prior to contracting the marriage between husband and wife Rocco thanks for clarification ...One last thing ... so if it is invalid (husband and wife marriage) ...ano na pananagutan ng husband sa wife. kelangan pa rin ni husband ipawalang bisa yung kasal nila ng wife nya thru annulment ba para kung gusto nya mag asawa ulit. Pwede ba gawing ground ng husband yung first marriage ng wife to file annulment. Thanks in advance ... Quote Link to comment
Raven Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 1. ano na pananagutan ng husband sa wife. dahil ang Estado lamang ang may karapatan na magsabi na walang-bisa ang isang kasal, hangga't walang deklarasyon mula sa hukuman na walang-bisa ang kasal nila, sa mata ng batas, mag-asawa pa rin sila. pero dahil nga may-asawa na pala before si babae, pwedeng umayaw si husband na magsuporta ke babae. 2. kelangan pa rin ni husband ipawalang bisa yung kasal nila ng wife nya thru annulment ba para kung gusto nya mag asawa ulit. yes, dahil ang Estado lamang ang may karapatan na magsabi na walang-bisa ang isang kasal. 3. Pwede ba gawing ground ng husband yung first marriage ng wife to file annulment yes (although, technically, hindi ito tinatawag na "annulment", kundi "declaration of nullity"), at hindi rin yung first marriage ni wife per se, kundi yung 1st marriage AND the failure to obtain a declaration of nullity of the 1st marriage prior to contracting the marriage between husband and wife Boss Rocco .... thanks so much, you're such a big help.Does the cost of filing a "declaration of nullity" much cheaper than "annulment"How about the proceeding is it much easier than annulment? Quote Link to comment
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