joe1234 Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I'm pretty pissed this morning. I passed by PNP today to get some forms so that I can finally get a PTC once this stupid anti-freedom & pro-criminal gun ban is lifted. I did get the form but I was told I might not be able to use it anyway because the f#&king Chief PNP wants it to be a permanent total gun ban. As stated in the news, Noynoy is against it because obviously it would mean that only criminals will have guns. I think they are having a meeting/summit today to discuss this. Tawag daw ako uli sa Monday to find out. I inherited my dad's Ithaca 1911, which based on the serial number is from WW2. I've never shot it and I was looking forward to taking it to a range once I get my PTC. I am praying for reason to prevail in their meeting. Anyway, I was advised to join a gun club so that I can at least transport my gun to different shooting ranges within Manila. Can you guys recommend gun clubs/ranges? Sorry for the rant. THANKS!!! Quote Link to comment
miggyE Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 I'm pretty pissed this morning. I passed by PNP today to get some forms so that I can finally get a PTC once this stupid anti-freedom & pro-criminal gun ban is lifted. I did get the form but I was told I might not be able to use it anyway because the f#&king Chief PNP wants it to be a permanent total gun ban. As stated in the news, Noynoy is against it because obviously it would mean that only criminals will have guns. I think they are having a meeting/summit today to discuss this. Tawag daw ako uli sa Monday to find out. I inherited my dad's Ithaca 1911, which based on the serial number is from WW2. I've never shot it and I was looking forward to taking it to a range once I get my PTC. I am praying for reason to prevail in their meeting. Anyway, I was advised to join a gun club so that I can at least transport my gun to different shooting ranges within Manila. Can you guys recommend gun clubs/ranges? Sorry for the rant. THANKS!!! Currently, there is a Conference/Convention going on in Crame with both Pro-Gun and the anti-gun lobby. from what i could piece together, the PNP will allow sale licensing and PTCs as it does currently. penalties for loose firearms, however, will be dramatically ramped up. Also, there is currently a bill in congress, by congressman antonino, that seeks to give the same rights here ala US bill of rights for firearms holders. as to ranges in manila, which part of manila or the metro are you in? there are several all around the metro.... Quote Link to comment
Ranger9 Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 Currently, there is a Conference/Convention going on in Crame with both Pro-Gun and the anti-gun lobby. from what i could piece together, the PNP will allow sale licensing and PTCs as it does currently. penalties for loose firearms, however, will be dramatically ramped up. Also, there is currently a bill in congress, by congressman antonino, that seeks to give the same rights here ala US bill of rights for firearms holders. as to ranges in manila, which part of manila or the metro are you in? there are several all around the metro.... Hey that is good news, since i believe we desperately need a bill that gives us right to own a Gun not just a priviledge. Quote Link to comment
joe1234 Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 I read in the paper today that so far they did not decide to do away with the PTC. So it looks like I will be able to get one. I just hope that after I get one (and pay around 7 or 8k for it), they won't just change their minds and decide Filipino's don't have the right to protect themselves and instead have to rely on our super-competent PNP to protect us. I'm from the Greenhills/Ortigas area. The only ranges I've been to are at Ortigas Home Depot and somewhere in Broadway/Aurora (a long time ago). Quote Link to comment
miggyE Posted June 5, 2010 Share Posted June 5, 2010 (edited) I read in the paper today that so far they did not decide to do away with the PTC. So it looks like I will be able to get one. I just hope that after I get one (and pay around 7 or 8k for it), they won't just change their minds and decide Filipino's don't have the right to protect themselves and instead have to rely on our super-competent PNP to protect us. I'm from the Greenhills/Ortigas area. The only ranges I've been to are at Ortigas Home Depot and somewhere in Broadway/Aurora (a long time ago). i'm afraid joe1234, that those ranges are the only ones in the area. unless you want to use the renges in crame and aguinaldo..... Edited June 5, 2010 by miggyE Quote Link to comment
arsonist2010 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 The nationwide gun ban will be lifted on June 9, and stricter measures on gun control will be put in place instead of extending the gun ban’s effectivity, the Philippine National Police (PNP) announced Friday. The policy was announced during the PNP’s second gun summit in Camp Crame on Friday, where participants conceded to just supporting stricter measures on firearms control. “There will be no gun ban extension. The policies on carrying guns before the election period will be reinstated," said PNP chief Director General Jesus Verzosa. The gun ban went into effect on January 10, after the Commission on Elections ordered it in place as part of implementing election law as applied to the recent May 10 polls. Nearly 3,000 individuals, including some 200 government employees, have been apprehended during the period. Some 300 representatives from various sectors who were present in the summit were unable to come to a general agreement on whether the gun ban should be extended or not. Summit participants finally agreed to the lifting of the ban if stricter measures on gun ownership will be enforced. The proposed stricter gun policies include limiting the security details for politicians and VIPs (Very Important Persons), and stricter requirements for those who are seeking a Permit to Carry Firearms Outside Residence (PTCFOR). “They also agreed to support our proposal for stricter penalties for those who will be caught possessing unlicensed firearms or guns with expired licenses," Verzosa added. A post-gun summit will likewise be held next week, where the proposals for stricter gun control will be finalized. (Another summit?who will be there to guide the PNP? or even make suggestions,they might just come up with weirder law) Some sectors, including the PNP itself, earlier called for an extension in the effectivity of the gun ban, citing the reported decrease in the incidence of crime. Earlier in the summit, the PNP presented a survey it commissioned which showed majority of Metro Manila residents want the gun ban extended. (I've never thought that the Philippines only comprises of Metro Manila) Based on the survey, 73.8 percent of the 400 respondents from the National Capital Region (NCR) believe the total gun ban should remain in force after June 9. The NCR survey is part of the ongoing nationwide study targeted to involve 4,400 respondents, the results of which are set to be released mid-June. The survey likewise showed that 81.5 percent of the respondents agreed that police checkpoints should remain in place even after elections, as majority of the respondents believe it resulted in the reduction of the incidence of crime. PNP spokesperson Chief Supt. Leonardo Espina earlier said the police agency is holding a stakeholders’ summit to tackle proposals for “responsible gun ownership" by civilians. But presidential front-runner Benigno “Noynoy" Aquino III, who practices target shooting himself as a hobby, expressed apprehensions on the total gun ban. "It's a nice imagery for you to say total gun ban, where nobody has guns, but there is a fine print: Nobody who follows the laws will have guns," Aquino said.—JMA/JV, GMANews.TV "ANYONE WHO TRIES TO TAKE MY GUN AWAY FROM ME IS MY ENEMY" Quote Link to comment
mnl2048 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Gun ban finally over. Anyone visited the firing range lately? Quote Link to comment
miggyE Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 i have, there's a range not 500 meters from the subdivision....maraming shooters ang nakapila! Quote Link to comment
popoyman Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 45 caliber colt combat elite model 1911 Quote Link to comment
junix Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 two successive days at the firing range (eagle @ clark and armscor marikina). sa wakas nakapagpaputok din Quote Link to comment
michael70 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 thinking of getting a PTC but isnt it that there will be a barangay election in october? e di gun ban na naman ulit? di ba sayang lang kung kukuha ako ng PTC? what do you guys think? Quote Link to comment
arsonist2010 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 thinking of getting a PTC but isnt it that there will be a barangay election in october? e di gun ban na naman ulit? di ba sayang lang kung kukuha ako ng PTC? what do you guys think? Bro 40 to 45 days lang gunban pag brgy elections. Been to jetro dasma cavite range ok dun nakakapagod lang pagbaba at pag akyat. Quote Link to comment
miggyE Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 makes me kinda glad na walking distance lang yung range. miffed though dahil ulan ng ulan dito pag hapon Quote Link to comment
arsonist2010 Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 June 15 to june 19 2010 gunshow part 1 sm megamall. Quote Link to comment
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