junix Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 nasa line up na ng shopinas.com si sena... just hope bgk won't regret not signing him. sayang naman...but then i hope ginebra won't regret it. Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Ano na balita sa paboritong koponan natin? Sino-sino ang nasa final line-up? Ano na balita sa paboritong koponan natin? Sino-sino ang nasa final line-up? Quote Link to comment
khilua23 Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Ano na balita sa paboritong koponan natin? Sino-sino ang nasa final line-up? Ano na balita sa paboritong koponan natin? Sino-sino ang nasa final line-up? according to coach siot tanquincen... wala masyadong pagbabago sa line up. tulad daw ng last conference, add mo lang si reil cervantes. kahapon, nagkaroon ng tune up game ang PETRON at BGK.. sans ILDEFONSO, AL HUSSAINI, YEO, still PETRON won 112-91. Quote Link to comment
SaintPeter5858 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 good luck to us this season!!! Quote Link to comment
SaintPeter5858 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 well, i would rather try my luck on unproven SENA that stick with the proven DE OCAMPO.. proven "not worthy"! yan din ang iniisip ko... or sana man lang trade him sa shopinas kahit future pick tapos sign ang team ng free agent. DON ALLADO, JOHN FERRIOLS, MARK BORBORAN, JAMES SENA, ALEX CRISANO, ROMMEL ADDUCUL, MARK ANDAYA, etc.. they all came from free agency before landing a new team. I'd go for Andaya. He's still trainable. then he'll surely produce later on. Quote Link to comment
BrightestStar Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 We have to admit that the greatest strength of Ginebra is its run and gun system. So having a big man to man the post is only secondary. Quote Link to comment
vexy9 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 kumpleto ba line-up?? wala bang injured?? Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Bates plans to meet Big J By Joaquin Henson http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6664/spo7e.jpg Billy Ray Bates Zoom MANILA, Philippines - The celebrated “Black Superman” intends to visit Manila, thank Robert Jaworski for his concern and confer with PBA officials on how to make the league “the place to play.” Billy Ray Bates said yesterday he will be ready to fly over in two weeks when he graduates from a drug and alcohol center. “After all these years, I am now finally clean and sober,” Bates told The STAR from New Jersey. “I have been in a drug and alcohol program now for a year. No. 1 favorite person is Robert Jaworski who did everything in his power to try to make me stay clean and sober but I was very young and immature. As soon as I get to the Philippines, I want to thank Mr. Jaworski for all his kindness and understanding towards me. He was someone who truly cared about me.” Bates, 52, played on three championship teams in five conferences with Crispa and Ginebra San Miguel in 1983-88. It was Jaworski who gave the 6-4 Bates his shiningest moments in the PBA. In the 1987 season, Bates averaged a whopping 54.9 points as Ginebra narrowly missed a finals berth after losing a do-or-die game to Hills Brothers (now Alaska). Bates said he’s looking forward to reconnecting with his Filipino fans and giving back. “I would like to make personal appearances, meet with PBA officials to talk about new avenues to make the PBA the place to play,” he added. “I am ready for commercials, to speak with young players, do clinics, anything that will be of help to what I like to call my second home.” Bates, who lives in Newark, said he is still married to Beverly Davis and has a 21-year-old daughter living in Switzerland where he played after his PBA career. Bates suited up for Portland, Washington and the Los Angeles Lakers in four NBA seasons from 1979-80 to 1982-83. He hit at a 26.7 clip in six playoff games for the Trail Blazers and was a cult hero in Portland. Bates, next to youngest of nine children, was a sharecroppers’ son who picked cotton as a boy, had no significant classroom education, lost his father Frank when he was only seven, grew up in a shack with no electricity and indoor plumbing and saw in basketball a way out of poverty. He was described by author David Halberstam in the book “The Breaks of the Game” as “a child of the feudal South.” Bates once said he was born to play basketball. Halberstam said perhaps, he was. “He had one of the most powerful bodies of any guard in the NBA, a huge barrel chest, immense hands, strong legs that sprang from thick thighs,” wrote Halberstam. “No one had ever taught him how to jump, he could simply do it from the first day he tried. He could dunk the ball from his sophomore year in high school and he lived for those moments, sailing above the rim and then slamming the ball down.” As a Kentucky State junior in 1977, Bates earned the nickname “Dunk” for compiling 67 slammers. Ginebra star Jay-Jay Helterbrand also played for Kentucky State. In the Continental league, Bates tore down four backboards as a result of his thunderous dunks. When he played for Portland, Bates admitted to substance abuse and spent eight weeks at a drug and alcohol rehabilitation center. Trail Blazers coach Jack Ramsay also enrolled him in a remedial reading school. “I have a few Filipino friends in New Jersey,” said Bates. “Two play in college and are planning to play in the PBA soon. One is only a junior in college and he is an All-American.” Bates confessed to the crime that led to a seven-year prison term. In 1998, he held up a gasoline station in New Jersey and slashed attendant Philip Kettel’s ear in stealing five dollars. Bates was later arrested and sentenced to serve seven years in jail. “I had gotten drunk one night and tried to steal some money from a gas station,” he related. “I got caught and spent seven years in prison. I was charged with armed robbery. It was the most embarrassing thing in my life. The robbery was all true. It was not the real Billy Ray Bates. I am so glad that I am now clean and sober. It is a big difference to finally be in control of my life.” Regarding today’s NBA stars, Bates said Kobe Bryant and LeBron James are “great players” but he was different. “I brought a power game to the Philippines that people never saw,” he said. “I liked to dunk on people and I was a very good shooter. I was a showman and today, kids would rather trash talk than show what they can do.” In a message to his fans, Bates said: “Please don’t drink or do drugs. I had so many people try to help me and then it was too late. I would tell the younger guys to try to speak with Mr. Jaworski. He is a very intelligent man with great wisdom. If I had listened to him when I was younger, I do not think I would have so many mistakes in my life. When I played with Ginebra, I was in my prime. By this time, I loved the food, women and friends I made. I miss the Philippines.” Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 parang ayaw manalo ng ginebra ah...sana mahiya naman sila sa mga fans nila Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Isang malaking SAYANG! Si Menk wala naman pala! Paulit ulit na lang injury niya. Quote Link to comment
Richmond Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The age of Ginebra is showing with their regular rotation on the floor they were outran by their younger opponents not until Labagala and Wilson were on the floor that they were able to catch up. Quote Link to comment
kenichi15 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Isang malaking SAYANG! Si Menk wala naman pala! Paulit ulit na lang injury niya. honestly puro sakit ng ulo ang bgk team.magmula sa management to coaching staff to the players. napaka bobo ng management ng bgk. ni re-sign pa si menk samantalang di naman makakapag laro.yung si hatfield na uuwi sa us pag gusto at maglalaro uli dito kung wala ng pera. usong uso sa bgk ang gawain ganito.si caguioa ilang taon di naglaro pero sumusweldo.si helterbrand ni hindi makataposng isang season na di napipilayan.ganun din si rico villanueva.pati head coach nagpapalitan lang si uichico at tanquincen. ang totoong never say die na lang sa team n to ay ang mga fans.ang layo talaga ng ginebra team nung araw sa ginebra team ngayon.ibang iba. Quote Link to comment
celts_sucks Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6664/spo7e.jpg Billy Ray Bates Nice to see the Black Superman again ... 1 Quote Link to comment
junix Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 honestly puro sakit ng ulo ang bgk team.magmula sa management to coaching staff to the players. napaka bobo ng management ng bgk. ni re-sign pa si menk samantalang di naman makakapag laro.yung si hatfield na uuwi sa us pag gusto at maglalaro uli dito kung wala ng pera. usong uso sa bgk ang gawain ganito.si caguioa ilang taon di naglaro pero sumusweldo.si helterbrand ni hindi makataposng isang season na di napipilayan.ganun din si rico villanueva.pati head coach nagpapalitan lang si uichico at tanquincen. ang totoong never say die na lang sa team n to ay ang mga fans.ang layo talaga ng ginebra team nung araw sa ginebra team ngayon.ibang iba. does this mean it's time to call in mr. jaworski? pero di naman nakikinig ang bgk management eh tsk tsk tsk with the present players that the kings have, i don't think ginebra will be going far this conference. with petron, tnt and bmeg having strong lineups, a semis stint will really be a bonus. i believe it's only bgk that did not reload on its lineup...tama ba? Quote Link to comment
kenichi15 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 does this mean it's time to call in mr. jaworski? pero di naman nakikinig ang bgk management eh tsk tsk tsk with the present players that the kings have, i don't think ginebra will be going far this conference. with petron, tnt and bmeg having strong lineups, a semis stint will really be a bonus. i believe it's only bgk that did not reload on its lineup...tama ba? sir observation ko lang po yan. sana ay irevamp na ang buong bgk.ang itira at kunin ay yung may never say die attitude.dahil kung ganyan lang ang team. walang mararating ang bgk. Quote Link to comment
junix Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 sir observation ko lang po yan. sana ay irevamp na ang buong bgk.ang itira at kunin ay yung may never say die attitude.dahil kung ganyan lang ang team. walang mararating ang bgk.tama ka diyan kaibigan. sa tingin ko nga sa lineup na ito, maswerte na kung makarating sa semis. gone were the days when we had the likes of jaworski, gonzalgo, loyzaga brothers, distrito, locsin, bal david, etc. who all typified the never-say-die ginebra brand of play. Quote Link to comment
Kazekage.Gaara Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Again, it's the coach. He motivates the players. And so, look at BGK. Quote Link to comment
junix Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 update:JAMES SENA is practicing with BGK.. is this the same tall and agile banger who made a good account of himself last night in his first game with shopinas.com? Quote Link to comment
somniantis86 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 They never tinkered with BGK's lineup kasi win or lose, may fans pa rin ang BGK. Kaya yung other SMC teams na lang pinalakas nila. Saka kahit underdogs in paper ang Ginebra, kaya pa rin naman nilang itumba kahit sinong team. Hindi nga lang on a regular basis, hehe. Just my two cents worth.. They never tinkered with BGK's lineup kasi win or lose, may fans pa rin ang BGK. Kaya yung other SMC teams na lang pinalakas nila. Saka kahit underdogs in paper ang Ginebra, kaya pa rin naman nilang itumba kahit sinong team. Hindi nga lang on a regular basis, hehe. Just my two cents worth.. Quote Link to comment
Richmond Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Sayang at pinakawalan ng Ginebra si Sena ganda ng laro nya kahapon Quote Link to comment
junix Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Sayang at pinakawalan ng Ginebra si Sena ganda ng laro nya kahaponso siya nga yung malaki ng shopinas na maganda ang inilaro kahapon...sayang nga. pwede sanang mapakinabangan ng ginebra sa ilalim. unfortunately gsm opted to retain the services of mr. de ocampo. haaaaay buhay nga naman. Quote Link to comment
BrightestStar Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Sayang, we lost the opening game! Quote Link to comment
brun0magtangol Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 okey lang if they let go of Sena pero keeping De ocampo arrrrggggggg..... and not getting Sena.... :wacko: :wacko: :angry2: Quote Link to comment
PurpleNGold Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 They never tinkered with BGK's lineup kasi win or lose, may fans pa rin ang BGK. Kaya yung other SMC teams na lang pinalakas nila. Saka kahit underdogs in paper ang Ginebra, kaya pa rin naman nilang itumba kahit sinong team. Hindi nga lang on a regular basis, hehe. Just my two cents worth.. They never tinkered with BGK's lineup kasi win or lose, may fans pa rin ang BGK. Kaya yung other SMC teams na lang pinalakas nila. Saka kahit underdogs in paper ang Ginebra, kaya pa rin naman nilang itumba kahit sinong team. Hindi nga lang on a regular basis, hehe. Just my two cents worth.. May niluluto atang trade involving BGK, Petron and Barako Bull right now that will benefit our beloved Gin Kings. Part of the trade deal is Yancy de Ocampo, Jimbo Aquino and Mike Cortez of Ginebra, Noy Baclao of Petron and Dorian Pena of Barako Bull. Pena and Baclao to Ginebra, Cortez and de Ocampo will be shipped to Barako Bull then Jimbo Aquino and a future draft pick to Petron. Well, if this true hope it materialized and approved by Commisioner Salud as we all know we need a BANGER inside the paint and a SHOTBLOCKER down low. Quote Link to comment
rafael77 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 ginebra is not the ginebra before. they are loosing ground. and they're loosing us. Quote Link to comment
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