RED2018 Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 The Dean Says it Accurately:Do or die for Ginebra SPORTING CHANCE By Joaquin Henson (The Philippine Star) Updated July 14, 2010 12:00 AM The PBA season will come to an abrupt end for Barangay Ginebra if the Kings don’t win over Alaska in Game 3 of their best-of-five quarterfinals series at the Araneta Coliseum tonight. It’s been a topsy-turvy campaign for Ginebra with coach Joseph Uichico juggling holdovers, transferees and comebacking players in trying to find the chemistry that was once a hallmark of the storied franchise. So far, 21 players have seen action for Ginebra in the Fiesta Conference – a record high that Sta. Lucia Realty, with all its wheeling and dealing, couldn’t match. Even Junthy Valenzuela, long in cold storage with injury issues, was reactivated by Uichico for a game. Cyrus Baguio and Billy Mamaril were traded midway the double-round eliminations to welcome Willie Miller and Mike Cortez in an already congested backcourt. Rudy Hatfield came back after a three-year layoff as injuries kept Eric Menk and J. C. Intal out of the lineup for a combined 16 games. Uichico has also struggled in finding the perfect import for Ginebra, starting with Awvee Storey and testing Mildon Ambdres and Denham Brown before settling for Chris Daniels. Through it all, Uichico has managed to keep Ginebra’s head above water. The Kings wound up the eliminations with a 9-9 record despite losing their last three assignments and beat Rain Or Shine, 115-88, in a playoff to avoid dropping to the wildcards. Daniels, 28, led the charge in thrashing the Elasto Painters for the last outright quarterfinals slot. But since that win, Daniels has hardly been a force in Ginebra’s two losses to Alaska in the quarterfinals. He’s been badly outplayed by the Aces’ Diamon Simpson. Daniels can’t be considered an impact player in the mold of a Sammy Monroe or Gabe Freeman or Clif Brown. He won’t deliver eye-popping numbers. In fact, Daniels hasn’t even scored in the 20s in three games so far. If Daniels has the arsenal to explode, he’s got to show it tonight – or forever be chastised. In Game 2 of the Alaska series, Ginebra had difficulty executing because of adjustment problems. The stats showed it glaringly. Uichico tried to give as many of his players the chance to display their wares but nobody could deliver consistently under time pressure. Only one Ginebra player logged more than 27 minutes – Daniels – while five Aces played at least 27. Ginebra’s bench produced 35 points to Alaska’s six but in the playoffs, the starters make the difference, not the relievers. Alaska concentrated on high percentage shots, staying away from three-point distance where the Aces were only 2-of-8, while Ginebra shot 9-of-26 triples. As a result, Alaska had a higher field goal percentage, .435 to .405. The Kings’ inability to cover for each other in defense – another sign of lack of chemistry – was evident in giving Alaska 28 free throw attempts. Ginebra, in contrast, took only nine foul shots. JayJay Helterbrand, Mark Caguioa, Intal, Miller and Ronald Tubid never went to the stripe and were a combined 12-of-40 from the floor. Alaska’s cohesiveness was bolstered by its 24 assists to Ginebra’s 19 and 47 rebounds to the Kings’ 44. Despite the statistical discrepancies, Ginebra could’ve won it if only Sunday Salvacion hit a triple in the dying seconds. Alaska held on to win, 84-82. Dating back to the Philippine Cup, Alaska has now beaten Ginebra in eight of their last 10 encounters. The Aces blanked the Kings in the semifinals last conference. Uichico has four ex-Alaska players in the Ginebra cast – Miller, Cortez, Willie Wilson and John Ferriols. They know coach Tim Cone’s system by heart and could provide the key in disrupting Alaska’s precision execution in the halfcourt. The winner of the series moves on to face No. 1 Talk ‘N’ Text in the semifinals. Quote Link to comment
Archdevil Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 (edited) Putek na chemistry yan... ilang conference nang hinahanap yan, hanggang ngayon hindi pa din nakikita. Ibig bang sabihin nagaala-tsamba lang si Jong sa rotation ng mga tao? Yung katwiran na chemistry, dapat nasa first 2 games lang ng conference. Pag may taong napalitan, dapat alam na kung sino ang puedeng pumalit. Dapat kilala na ng coach ang strengths at weaknesses ng mga players nya. Edited July 14, 2010 by Archdevil Quote Link to comment
khilua23 Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 at last, nanalo din ang bgk over alaska... pero hangang saan naman kaya aabot itong bgk? kailangan na talaga magpalit ng coaching staff ng bgk. i doubt kung manalo pa sila sa friday... Quote Link to comment
rakizta Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 malay naman natin ma-sweep yung last 2 games......hehehe Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 maski ma sweep ang last two games, dapat pa ring palitan si Jong. And trade some players. Tumatanda na nawawalan na ng fire sa paglalaro with the exception of Menk. Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Namamaos na ako sa kasisigaw ng GINEBRA GINEBRA, wala rin! Wala na yung rah rah at collegiate style ng laro ng Ginebra. Quote Link to comment
orionquest Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 buti na lang at nanalo kagabi. kung di pa gumawa si helterbrand at intal hindi pa mananalo.sana manalo ulit sa game 4. Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) JC Intal provided the spark that Ginebra badly needed last night, just when Intal was hot, Jong for the nth time pulls off his classic act of substituting the player/s with the hot hands, di naman kasi kasing-tanda ni Menk si Intal na kailangan ng mahabang pahinga, as expected nang bumalik na sa 4h quarter si Intal at bantayan na ni dela cruz nahirapan na sya,. Ginebra somehow played good basketball in the 3rd quarter last night (esp. Intal and Cruz) but I dont think it is enough for them to actually win the series. Dapat mag-isip na ang Ginebra management ng revamp for next season, they ought to seriously consider kung sino ang players na talagang kailangan nila, Yancy for me needs to go, heck he doesnt even chase after those attempts like just what Reavis do for them before and he isnt even a force in rebounding. Sa tingin ko, Wilson and Cruz should be retained as they are role players who might not be as glorified as some of their (aging) superstars but gets the job done and somehow provide toughness, also their coach should also be replaced, luma na ang coaching style ni Jong. . Also ang sama ang laro ng import nila, pinipilit nilang paglaruin sa post pero parang di sya sanay sa ganon (and even when facing the basket), akala ko ok na sya pero mali pala. Nawalan na talaga ako ng gana manood ng games ng Ginebra.... Edited July 15, 2010 by Agent_mulder Quote Link to comment
Archdevil Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Nanalo BGK kasi they played basic basketball... Ewan ko ba dito kay Jong kung bakit ipinipilit ang chemistry sa 3-guard rotation niya. Simpleng basketball lang laro nila kagabi. May 1 sentro, 2 forward, 2 guard tapos zone. Sus, kahit na collegiate coach maiisip yung ganun sa dami ng talented players ng BGK. Quote Link to comment
pizzapandesal Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 nagtataka ko nung game 1 and 2, laging si cortez ang nasa loob pag crunch time, puro TOs tuloy Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Sa hindi pag tanggal sa import ng Ginebra, pakiramdam ko pinabayaan na lang ng management na matapos ang conference at siguro magkakaron na malakihang revamp ang Ginebra. Tama ang observation ni Agent Mulder. Swak na swak ang analysis. Nagkaron nga tayo ng malaki si Yancy, inutil naman. Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 YANCY = Darko Milicic hehehe hindi lng kc tayo biniyayaan ng height lol! Quote Link to comment
Archdevil Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 May laro na naman mamaya ang BGK, anyways, I'm not as excited as before. Mdyo OT, ok din ang series ng RoS at Llmados. May bagong import ang Llamados mamaya. Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 May laro na naman mamaya ang BGK, anyways, I'm not as excited as before. Mdyo OT, ok din ang series ng RoS at Llmados. May bagong import ang Llamados mamaya. ================================================ Oo nga, Israeli daw? Di na ako manonood live mamaya. sa bahay na lang. kakawalang gana kasi eh. Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Nanalo BGK kasi they played basic basketball... Ewan ko ba dito kay Jong kung bakit ipinipilit ang chemistry sa 3-guard rotation niya. Simpleng basketball lang laro nila kagabi. May 1 sentro, 2 forward, 2 guard tapos zone. Sus, kahit na collegiate coach maiisip yung ganun sa dami ng talented players ng BGK. Me times kasi na effective 'yung 3 or even 4 guard combination n'ya but E-Menk was a dominating then at nasa kanila pa sina Adducul and even Reavis to control the boards pero kung gagawin n'ya 'yun against alaska at sa dami ng malalaki ng alaska luging-lugi sila sa rebounds, isipin na lang n'ya na me thoss, Simpson at De Vance pa tapos mag 3 or guard combination ka natural lugi ka sa rebounds.. Sa hindi pag tanggal sa import ng Ginebra, pakiramdam ko pinabayaan na lang ng management na matapos ang conference at siguro magkakaron na malakihang revamp ang Ginebra. Tama ang observation ni Agent Mulder. Swak na swak ang analysis. Nagkaron nga tayo ng malaki si Yancy, inutil naman. Nakita ko lang ang point mo na matagal mo nang sinasabi bro na maski may 6'9 silang player in Yancy 'di pa din sapat, I managed to watched the game between ros at derby ace dahil umuwi ako ng maaga at buti na lang me power na sa amin that time, me isang play doon na nag-provide ng help defense si Reavis nang mag-drive si Sol Mercado, hinabol talaga sa ere ni Reavis 'yung tira ni Sol eh, that's the kind of center that Ginebra needs 'di gaya ni YancyMay laro na naman mamaya ang BGK, anyways, I'm not as excited as before. Mdyo OT, ok din ang series ng RoS at Llmados. May bagong import ang Llamados mamaya. ================================================ Oo nga, Israeli daw? Di na ako manonood live mamaya. sa bahay na lang. kakawalang gana kasi eh. Israeli ba? From what I read naglaro sa Israel.... Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 import na ng ibang team pinag uusapan nyo! hahaha btw, who won? Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Ginebra won! Late nang nabuksan TV kinabahan pa ako! Dribble ng dribble si Helter naagawan pa ni Devance at lumiit ng 2 ang lamag inside a minute na lang. Nasupalpal ang shot ni Villanueva ng import ng Alaska then buti na lang nag travelling error si Devance kundi nalintikan na naman tayo. Na foul si Salvacion pasok dalawang free throws and thats the story. Sandali ko lang napanood, na high blood pa ako. Helter was player of the game which I dont know why! Final: BGK 94 ALA 90 Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Ginebra won! Late nang nabuksan TV kinabahan pa ako! Dribble ng dribble si Helter naagawan pa ni Devance at lumiit ng 2 ang lamag inside a minute na lang. Nasupalpal ang shot ni Villanueva ng import ng Alaska then buti na lang nag travelling error si Devance kundi nalintikan na naman tayo. Na foul si Salvacion pasok dalawang free throws and thats the story. Sandali ko lang napanood, na high blood pa ako. Helter was player of the game which I dont know why! Final: BGK 94 ALA 90 lol Quote Link to comment
Archdevil Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 May Sunday double-header tayo a... ok na din. Pero sana may revamp pa din. Medyo OT uli, may sapakan daw nung second game a. Ano balita? Quote Link to comment
complicated8 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Flagrant 2 si jr Reyes of ros Quote Link to comment
rakizta Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 haist salamat nanalo din pala.....ayos na yan sa Gins Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 May Sunday double-header tayo a... ok na din. Pero sana may revamp pa din. Medyo OT uli, may sapakan daw nung second game a. Ano balita?\=============================================== Not necessarily sapakan. Alam naman natin pikon si JR Reyes kapag naiisahan parati. So nakapasok sa loob ng paint si Reeves, pinalo ng braso ang ulo ni Raffy ni JR. Na off balance si Raffy sabay regain ng balance at nag trash talk yung dalawa. Medyo diniinan ng siko ni Raffy si JR sa leeg. Flagrant foul 2 ang penalty. But not sapakan. Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Yung bagong import ng Derby Ace, anak ng dating import ng Ginebra during the 80s. Ang galing, considering na 1 day pa lang siya dito sa Pinas. Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 import na ng ibang team pinag uusapan nyo! hahaha btw, who won? Puro woes na lang kasi ng fave team natin ang napapag-usapan kaya import/s na lang ng ibang team ang naging topic hehe.. Flagrant 2 si jr Reyes of ros Opps OT ka bro hehe.... haist salamat nanalo din pala.....ayos na yan sa Gins Yeah at least 'di sila na-sweep.... Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 in fairness, buhay pa thread! haha Quote Link to comment
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