john regala Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 ^ ano ka kunsensya??? nasa tao yun kung gusto nilang magtapon ng pera! pera nila yung mawawala hindi sa yo! matuto sila sa sarili nilang experience hindi yung sa pakikisawsaw ng kung sinu sino! adios! Quote Link to comment
Jack Bauer Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 i also invested in this scheme knowing fully well the risks.I'm a gambler. I love to play the double or nothing type of game.Sometimes you win sometimes you don't. The thing is gamble only the amount you can afford to lose. Quote Link to comment
CodenameV Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 http://pinoyambisyoso.com/2007/07/03/franc...s-on-tv-patrol/ I can't believe this thread i posted. This is actually how people think. Na ok lang makapang goyo sila so long as mabawi nila pinasok nila at kumita pa. grabe. ang mali pa gobyerno at media kasi tinigil daw. haaay pinoy talaga... Thanks for the link. I found the posts very interesting to read. Gives insights to how FS investors think and justified their 'investment' aka gamble. Quote Link to comment
boy popoy Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 i also invested in this scheme knowing fully well the risks.I'm a gambler. I love to play the double or nothing type of game.Sometimes you win sometimes you don't. The thing is gamble only the amount you can afford to lose. ok lang sana kung gamble lang. problema kasi dito, may halong deceit. they make you believe that your investing in some offshore business, when in fact the only thing that is keeping this going is the money from new recruits. Quote Link to comment
mogambo Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 :thumbsupsmiley: sa sugalan gaya ng casino nakikita mo ang kapustahan mo eh dito asan ??? Quote Link to comment
sunking Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 IMHO, the fall of Francswiss is not a result of crab mentality. For every person who participates in a scheme with no intention of recruiting someone else, there will be a deceitful person who will do all he can to recruit as many people as he can, even if these recruits can't really afford to enter this scheme. Why would you support something like this? In some of the earlier posts, it was acknowledged that this was most likely a pyramid scheme and that if you come in late, you're going to get burned. Di ba mali yun? Instead of making informed financial decisions and using real investment opportunities that benefit themselves and the economy, some people would rather make a quick buck with a scheme that takes advantage of the hardship felt by Filipinos. I don't think anyone has the right to be angry about this scheme being shut down. If you've stopped getting your $45/day profit, then thank the heavens you already made your profit. Madami I'm sure hindi. If you never made a profit but got your capital, be thankful you got your money back at all. If you lost your money, then you're part of that crowd that came in too late in the scheme. You knew it, they knew it, you took your chances, so no point in ranting about it. Crab mentality can also be: I'm going to make my bucks and other people be damned. Quote Link to comment
Guest airmax Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 (edited) this is bullshit. a month ago inalok ako ng dati kong boss dyan sa atin kung gusto kong maginvest dito. biniro ko pa sya sabi ko kasisimula ko lang sa work invest kaagad sa isang bagay na hindi mo alam. dinerecho ko sya tinanong ko kung networking ito. sabi nya oo. well ako kasi hindi ako believe sa networking. para sa akin lahat ng networking scam. ang nakita lang dito e ung mga unang nagpundar nito. in the late 90's lagi akong naiibitahan sumali sa gold quest (ano bang nangyari dito nag close shop na hahaah), internet tv, Amway etc. siempre out of respect doon sa nagimbita sa akin pumunta ako but i always tell them na if i dont like it di ko bibilhin. siempre nanotice ko pare pareho lang silang get rich quick scheme. yang mga networking na yan ka lang nila tinataasan ung product nila para imbes na bilhin mo magrerefer ka lang ng magrerefer. ganyan lang naman ang networking. front lang nila ung mga products nila. Pero lahat sila bullshit hehehe. alam ko marami ng naging biktima nito may kaibigan ako dito sa US nawalan ng 2million nung nasa Pinas pa sila dahil lang sa walang kwentang networking na yan. kaya nung nabasa ko a few days ago na nagkaproblema yang francswiss kasi merong hindi na bayaran na investor ayon naglalabasan na ung mga naging biktima nito. pati pala si claudine at raymart nagoyo nito. sabi nga noong isang poster mas mabuti pang magsugal ka kasi nakikita mo ang players sa casino e dito nagsusugal ka rin ng walang kasiguraduhan. isa pa ung isang ka work ko dati sa call center inalok din ako nito sabi ko pagiisipan ko. after pumutok ung balita against francswiss di na ako kinulit hehehe. Edited July 12, 2007 by airmax Quote Link to comment
biogesic Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 paano kaya nakakakain yung mga kumita na sa FS which alam na alam nila na ang perang kinita nila ay galing sa mga naloko nila? tsk tsk tsk… Quote Link to comment
tabouki Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 (edited) bakit ikaw brad natuto ka na? hindi kasi hindi ako sumasali sa ganyan.......pero maraming ofw na kagaya ko ang nabiktima at kung may pera ako, di pa rin ako papadala sa greed o magpauto para sumali sa pyramid scams pera nila un, buhay nila un,,, they risked so suffer or enjoy the consequences btw, forum ito so u say your piece, let the others say theirs... and lets all live in peace! Edited July 13, 2007 by tabouki Quote Link to comment
cumpadre Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Olats ako dito!! When I was being recruited ( relative pa ng big boss namin ). Nagresearch agad ako about HYIP. So at first I was skeptic and I already know this is a scam, c'mon 4.5% daily interest too good to be true. So anyway, I asked the person if this is a networking scheme, sabi di naman daw dahil you are not oblige to recruit a downline. So sabi ko at least I couldn't harm anyone if I opted to just invest and wait for my capital to return after 22 days. My boss invested his money and after less than 2 weeks he got his investment back and profited from it ( 400US$) coz being naive and all that with regards to ponzi sca, I think he recruited some of his relatives to invest to it too. Ika nga spread the good news lang. Anyway, going back to it, sa madaling salita I was deceived by my bosses cousin coz herself too was deceived by the higher ranks when she was recruited. So parang domino effect talaga. Sa madaling salita kahit na alam kong scam, pinasok ko pa rin hoping to profit from the interest. I was ignorant whatever or wherever they are using my investment for as long as I'm earning from it kasi they really do pay, pinakita pa sa akin ng boss ko yung bank account nya sa Banco De Oro, pumasok talaga yung transaction via internet.When I made my investment (3 days before the media exposur), I already conditioned my mind na wala na pera ko kasi tinaya ko na sa sugal. Talo or manalo ok lang, but syempre I would be a hypocrite If I would say na i'm not hoping to gain from it. All I was praying for the day I gave my money to the agent na sana wag munang matutukan ng media until I get my capital but alas! biglang naging news sa ABS-CBN for 3 days. Forecast pa naman namin ay tatagal pa ng mga 3 months ito.Well, eto ako ngayon, talunan. Ganyan talaga pag sumugal ka sa HYIP, you win some you lose some. It's all a matter of timing and luck, pero ganun pa rin galing pa rin sa pera ng iba yung kikitain mo which is very wrong. Kaya siguro ako pinatalo ni Lord para walang karmang bumalik sa akin. Well, another lesson learned for me. Charge ko na lang sa experience ko. Kaya ingat na lang kayo, don't be deceived by these schemes or be greedy. Wait for your turn, pasasaan bat aasenso din tayo kahit di ganun kayaman basta comfortable na buhay lang ok na. Take it easy! Cheers! ;)Olats ako dito!! When I was being recruited ( relative pa ng big boss namin ). Nagresearch agad ako about HYIP. So at first I was skeptic and I already know this is a scam, c'mon 4.5% daily interest too good to be true. So anyway, I asked the person if this is a networking scheme, sabi di naman daw dahil you are not oblige to recruit a downline. So sabi ko at least I couldn't harm anyone if I opted to just invest and wait for my capital to return after 22 days. My boss invested his money and after less than 2 weeks he got his investment back and profited from it ( 400US$) coz being naive and all that with regards to ponzi sca, I think he recruited some of his relatives to invest to it too. Ika nga spread the good news lang. Anyway, going back to it, sa madaling salita I was deceived by my bosses cousin coz herself too was deceived by the higher ranks when she was recruited. So parang domino effect talaga. Sa madaling salita kahit na alam kong scam, pinasok ko pa rin hoping to profit from the interest. I was ignorant whatever or wherever they are using my investment for as long as I'm earning from it kasi they really do pay, pinakita pa sa akin ng boss ko yung bank account nya sa Banco De Oro, pumasok talaga yung transaction via internet.When I made my investment (3 days before the media exposure), I already conditioned my mind na wala na pera ko kasi tinaya ko na sa sugal. Talo or manalo ok lang, but syempre I would be a hypocrite If I would say na i'm not hoping to gain from it. All I was praying for the day I gave my money to the agent na sana wag munang matutukan ng media until I get my capital but alas! biglang naging news sa ABS-CBN for 3 days. Forecast pa naman namin ay tatagal pa ng mga 3 months ito.Well, eto ako ngayon, talunan. Ganyan talaga pag sumugal ka sa HYIP, you win some you lose some. It's all a matter of timing and luck, pero ganun pa rin galing pa rin sa pera ng iba yung kikitain mo which is very wrong. Kaya siguro ako pinatalo ni Lord para walang karmang bumalik sa akin. Well, another lesson learned for me. Charge ko na lang sa experience ko. Kaya ingat na lang kayo, don't be deceived by these schemes or be greedy. Wait for your turn, pasasaan bat aasenso din tayo kahit di ganun kayaman basta comfortable na buhay lang ok na. Take it easy! Cheers! Quote Link to comment
kLique Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 yan ang hirap sa ating mga pinoy pag may nakitang umaangat na iba pilit hinahatak pababa!!!crab mentality nga!!!AS OF NOW WALA ANG SITE NG FRANCSWISS...HOPEFULLY MAIBALIK PA RIN... masyado kasing sumikat kaagad ayan daming bumatikos...sana mawala na sa ugali natin ang pagiging crab mentality at pakialamero... hahaha relax ka lang kasi dude...wala naman masama that this was exposed... because in the first place this was a scam to begin withwhen would you have wanted this out in the open? when everything's too late?just like what happened before to multitel? mas kawawa naman ang mga kababayan natin...definitely the proponents and all those who initiated these kinds of scams should be given the death penalty Quote Link to comment
jopoc Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 sa banko na lang kayo mag invest safe pa dun. lalo na sa bigger banks or sa rural banks kung daring ka, sa stocks ka mag invest. andami namang legit establishments, bakit di ka na lang dun? at least me peace of mind ka. Quote Link to comment
Guest airmax Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 hahaha relax ka lang kasi dude...wala naman masama that this was exposed... because in the first place this was a scam to begin withwhen would you have wanted this out in the open? when everything's too late?just like what happened before to multitel? mas kawawa naman ang mga kababayan natin...definitely the proponents and all those who initiated these kinds of scams should be given the death penalty hindi naman namin sinisiraan ang mga nag invest dito kaso tingnan mo naman ang nangyari may kaso na lumabas against francswiss. kung gusto nyong maginvest sa isang business make sure na maglalast yung investment nyo. Niyaya nga ako ng TL ko na maginvest dyan sabi ko hindi ako naniniwala sa networking. if you would look in the past marami ng nasirang buhay ng mga pamilya dahil lang sa networking. ang sa akin lang if you're gonna invest your money into something pagaralan nyo muna kung magiging beneficial ba ito. well pera nyo naman yan kung gusto nyong iinvest sa isang walang kakwenta kwentang bagay be my guest. Quote Link to comment
CodenameV Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 $1000 or P46,000 (depending on the prevailing forex date) is still a large amount of money. Even when i got a lot of IPO's of National Reinsurance and Alliance Global, my total earnings are still less than that amount combined. Next time somebody thinks about going into schemes like this, just imagine that where your money will end up. One of the perpetrators reportedly spent the hard earned money of FS investors on a Porche Boxster and Chevy SUV. Quote Link to comment
ninjakidz Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 high risk and high yield investment.. hindi sya entirely scam kasi kikita ka talaga.. medyo scam lang kasi hindi sya pang matagalan.. yung mga umaangal sa tv na nalugi, kasalanan nila yun.. napaka tanga naman nila kung hindi nila naisip na medyo bogus tong investment na to..wala naman papeles dito.. kamayan at website lang ang pang hahawakan mo.. nag invest ako dito at nabalik naman.. pero yun nga.. pull out agad after a time kasi alam naman namin na website lang to at madaling isara.. actually, pang apat na na website to na pinag investan ko.. eto nga lang yung pinaka mahal kasi $1000 agad cash out.. sa iba kasi $20 pwede na.. andami ko na nakita na yumaman talaga dito pero super laki din ng nalugi sa kanila.. diskarte talaga kasi may kikita at may malulugi.. im sure hindi ito yung huli na website na may ganito.. as of now.. may tatlo na naman na nag sisimula pa lang.. pero pahinga muna.. mahirap na.. Quote Link to comment
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