Francswiss.us

[grovel]

Ugali talaga ng tao o. Alam nilang scam to so para mabilis mabalik ang pera sa kanila mag rerecruit sila ng iba kahit alam nilang scam to. syempre since nakaka recruit babalik nga agad ang "investment" nila. ang kawawa yung mga hinila nila. you thrive on people's greed. I think dapat hulihin ang mga kumita dito e. para matuto mga tao na wag maniwala sa mga ganitong scam

[id6230]

The pyramid scheme has been around for ages. Investor's to be should be aware that these operators are feeding on your greed. If somebody offers you a 4.5 % interest rate a month return on your investment , this should be a red flag mark. If you invest, make it an educated one. Do your own research and just don't take someone's word for it.

[blackthunder]

well, mostly people get into this, knows what this is. except, for the non-educated one. who have there life time savings, hopefully you spared this kind of people. coz talagang pinaghirapan nila yan!!!! other wise, like yun iba, bahala kayo. its ur money, your risk. you got your return, good for you. you didnt get it back, sorry! but business, its like that. its not always profit. sometimes you lose. here bigger chance of losing, well its your money!!! d b?!

[tabouki]

another one bit the dust...

 

G R E E D yan, di na natutuo sa multitel etc...

[id6230]

well, mostly people get into this, knows what this is. except, for the non-educated one. who have there life time savings, hopefully you spared this kind of people. coz talagang pinaghirapan nila yan!!!! other wise, like yun iba, bahala kayo. its ur money, your risk. you got your return, good for you. you didnt get it back, sorry! but business, its like that. its not always profit. sometimes you lose. here bigger chance of losing, well its your money!!! d b?!

I never had the stomach for people who will intentionally defraud others. This predators should be harshly punished and be locked up and had the keys thrown away.

well, mostly people get into this, knows what this is. except, for the non-educated one. who have there life time savings, hopefully you spared this kind of people. coz talagang pinaghirapan nila yan!!!! other wise, like yun iba, bahala kayo. its ur money, your risk. you got your return, good for you. you didnt get it back, sorry! but business, its like that. its not always profit. sometimes you lose. here bigger chance of losing, well its your money!!! d b?!

I never had the stomach for people who will intentionally defraud others. This predators should be harshly punished and be locked up and had the keys thrown away.

[grovel]

http://pinoyambisyoso.com/2007/07/03/franc...s-on-tv-patrol/

 

I can't believe this thread i posted. This is actually how people think. Na ok lang makapang goyo sila so long as mabawi nila pinasok nila at kumita pa. grabe. ang mali pa gobyerno at media kasi tinigil daw. haaay pinoy talaga...

[Petronus]

It seems Filipinos never learn. Every 3 to 5 years, a new ponzi or pyramiding scam appears.

[silvervic]

musta na kaya ung mga ka-bro natin na nagpost d2 n so far so good ang investment nila sa francswiss... binasa ko itong thread... mkhang wla n silang masabi...

[camatog]

Ugali talaga ng tao o. Alam nilang scam to so para mabilis mabalik ang pera sa kanila mag rerecruit sila ng iba kahit alam nilang scam to. syempre since nakaka recruit babalik nga agad ang "investment" nila. ang kawawa yung mga hinila nila. you thrive on people's greed. I think dapat hulihin ang mga kumita dito e. para matuto mga tao na wag maniwala sa mga ganitong scam

 

mga tao nga naman o, sakay lang ng sakay para lang may maihirit! alam mo ba na kahit hindi ka mag recruit dito eh suppose to be kikita ka! kaya wag mo sisihin yung mga taong sumali dito dahil pera naman nila yung ginamit nila. at alam mo ba kung san kinukuha yung "earnings" sa "investors" dito? mag research kayo at malalaman nyo! kumbaga extra lang yung sa mga recruit pero kung wala kang recruit, kikita ka pa rin "dapat"!

 

by the way, hindi ako sumali dito sa francswiss dahil hindi ako SUGAROL!!! nakakaasar lang yung mga sawsaw ng sawsaw hindi naman alam ang sinasawsawan!!!

[john regala]

musta na kaya ung mga ka-bro natin na nagpost d2 n so far so good ang investment nila sa francswiss... binasa ko itong thread... mkhang wla n silang masabi...

 

eh wala naman tayo paki alam dun brad kasi pera nila yun!!! kaya manahimik na lang diba??

[john regala]

another one bit the dust...

 

G R E E D yan, di na natutuo sa multitel etc...

 

 

bakit ikaw brad natuto ka na?

[john regala]

I wanna hear from people na nagtatanggol dito dati. The fact that its a scam is so obvious. Problem is filipinos always become victims in this situation because being in a third world country we're prone to people who think and know we want quick-rich schemes. dami tuloy nabibiktima. ang sama dito yung ibang tao naghanap pa ng karamay. kasi may 10% na commission for every referral ba naman dumami tuloy lalo ang naapektuhan.

 

baka naman na-recruit ka rin kaya apektado ka!

[archico01]

sa mga nakikisawsaw.... wag na kayong umepal. Mga wala lang kasi kayong pera.

[john regala]

^ yan ang mga hirit!

[grovel]

The reason we're here is to tell people that investing in these types of "schemes" is very very risky. Maybe a few interjections every now and then would convince people not to place their money in things which could vanish into thin air. They don't get receipts, or any other proof of the transaction aside from the ones in the net.

Sino hahabulin mo just in case na mawala?

 

learning experience to. At least ang maganda dyan, the next time something like this comes along, pwede mo nang banggitin na "baka pareho lang yan ng multitel or francswiss".

[john regala]

^ ano ka kunsensya???

 

nasa tao yun kung gusto nilang magtapon ng pera! pera nila yung mawawala hindi sa yo! matuto sila sa sarili nilang experience hindi yung sa pakikisawsaw ng kung sinu sino! adios!

[Jack Bauer]

i also invested in this scheme knowing fully well the risks.

I'm a gambler. I love to play the double or nothing type of game.

Sometimes you win sometimes you don't.

 

The thing is gamble only the amount you can afford to lose.

[CodenameV]

http://pinoyambisyoso.com/2007/07/03/franc...s-on-tv-patrol/

 

I can't believe this thread i posted. This is actually how people think. Na ok lang makapang goyo sila so long as mabawi nila pinasok nila at kumita pa. grabe. ang mali pa gobyerno at media kasi tinigil daw. haaay pinoy talaga...

 

Thanks for the link. I found the posts very interesting to read. Gives insights to how FS investors think and justified their 'investment' aka gamble.

[boy popoy]

i also invested in this scheme knowing fully well the risks.

I'm a gambler. I love to play the double or nothing type of game.

Sometimes you win sometimes you don't.

 

The thing is gamble only the amount you can afford to lose.

 

 

ok lang sana kung gamble lang. problema kasi dito, may halong deceit. they make you believe that your investing in some offshore business, when in fact the only thing that is keeping this going is the money from new recruits.

[mogambo]

:thumbsupsmiley: sa sugalan gaya ng casino nakikita mo ang kapustahan mo eh dito asan ???

[sunking]

IMHO, the fall of Francswiss is not a result of crab mentality.

 

For every person who participates in a scheme with no intention of recruiting someone else, there will be a deceitful person who will do all he can to recruit as many people as he can, even if these recruits can't really afford to enter this scheme. Why would you support something like this?

 

In some of the earlier posts, it was acknowledged that this was most likely a pyramid scheme and that if you come in late, you're going to get burned. Di ba mali yun? Instead of making informed financial decisions and using real investment opportunities that benefit themselves and the economy, some people would rather make a quick buck with a scheme that takes advantage of the hardship felt by Filipinos.

 

I don't think anyone has the right to be angry about this scheme being shut down. If you've stopped getting your $45/day profit, then thank the heavens you already made your profit. Madami I'm sure hindi. If you never made a profit but got your capital, be thankful you got your money back at all. If you lost your money, then you're part of that crowd that came in too late in the scheme. You knew it, they knew it, you took your chances, so no point in ranting about it.

 

Crab mentality can also be: I'm going to make my bucks and other people be damned.

[Guest airmax]

this is bullshit. a month ago inalok ako ng dati kong boss dyan sa atin kung gusto kong maginvest dito. biniro ko pa sya sabi ko kasisimula ko lang sa work invest kaagad sa isang bagay na hindi mo alam. dinerecho ko sya tinanong ko kung networking ito. sabi nya oo. well ako kasi hindi ako believe sa networking. para sa akin lahat ng networking scam. ang nakita lang dito e ung mga unang nagpundar nito. in the late 90's lagi akong naiibitahan sumali sa gold quest (ano bang nangyari dito nag close shop na hahaah), internet tv, Amway etc. siempre out of respect doon sa nagimbita sa akin pumunta ako but i always tell them na if i dont like it di ko bibilhin. siempre nanotice ko pare pareho lang silang get rich quick scheme. yang mga networking na yan ka lang nila tinataasan ung product nila para imbes na bilhin mo magrerefer ka lang ng magrerefer. ganyan lang naman ang networking. front lang nila ung mga products nila. Pero lahat sila bullshit hehehe. alam ko marami ng naging biktima nito may kaibigan ako dito sa US nawalan ng 2million nung nasa Pinas pa sila dahil lang sa walang kwentang networking na yan.

 

kaya nung nabasa ko a few days ago na nagkaproblema yang francswiss kasi merong hindi na bayaran na investor ayon naglalabasan na ung mga naging biktima nito. pati pala si claudine at raymart nagoyo nito. sabi nga noong isang poster mas mabuti pang magsugal ka kasi nakikita mo ang players sa casino e dito nagsusugal ka rin ng walang kasiguraduhan. isa pa ung isang ka work ko dati sa call center inalok din ako nito sabi ko pagiisipan ko. after pumutok ung balita against francswiss di na ako kinulit hehehe.

Edited July 12, 2007 by airmax

[biogesic]

paano kaya nakakakain yung mga kumita na sa FS which alam na alam nila na ang perang kinita nila ay galing sa mga naloko nila? tsk tsk tsk…

[tabouki]

bakit ikaw brad natuto ka na?

 

hindi kasi hindi ako sumasali sa ganyan.......pero maraming ofw na kagaya ko ang nabiktima

 

at kung may pera ako, di pa rin ako papadala sa greed o magpauto para sumali sa pyramid scams

 

pera nila un, buhay nila un,,, they risked so suffer or enjoy the consequences

 

 

btw, forum ito so u say your piece, let the others say theirs... and lets all live in peace!

Edited July 13, 2007 by tabouki

[cumpadre]

Olats ako dito!! When I was being recruited ( relative pa ng big boss namin ). Nagresearch agad ako about HYIP. So at first I was skeptic and I already know this is a scam, c'mon 4.5% daily interest too good to be true. So anyway, I asked the person if this is a networking scheme, sabi di naman daw dahil you are not oblige to recruit a downline. So sabi ko at least I couldn't harm anyone if I opted to just invest and wait for my capital to return after 22 days. My boss invested his money and after less than 2 weeks he got his investment back and profited from it ( 400US$) coz being naive and all that with regards to ponzi sca, I think he recruited some of his relatives to invest to it too. Ika nga spread the good news lang. Anyway, going back to it, sa madaling salita I was deceived by my bosses cousin coz herself too was deceived by the higher ranks when she was recruited. So parang domino effect talaga. Sa madaling salita kahit na alam kong scam, pinasok ko pa rin hoping to profit from the interest. I was ignorant whatever or wherever they are using my investment for as long as I'm earning from it kasi they really do pay, pinakita pa sa akin ng boss ko yung bank account nya sa Banco De Oro, pumasok talaga yung transaction via internet.When I made my investment (3 days before the media exposur), I already conditioned my mind na wala na pera ko kasi tinaya ko na sa sugal. Talo or manalo ok lang, but syempre I would be a hypocrite If I would say na i'm not hoping to gain from it. All I was praying for the day I gave my money to the agent na sana wag munang matutukan ng media until I get my capital but alas! biglang naging news sa ABS-CBN for 3 days. Forecast pa naman namin ay tatagal pa ng mga 3 months ito.Well, eto ako ngayon, talunan. Ganyan talaga pag sumugal ka sa HYIP, you win some you lose some. It's all a matter of timing and luck, pero ganun pa rin galing pa rin sa pera ng iba yung kikitain mo which is very wrong. Kaya siguro ako pinatalo ni Lord para walang karmang bumalik sa akin. Well, another lesson learned for me. Charge ko na lang sa experience ko. Kaya ingat na lang kayo, don't be deceived by these schemes or be greedy. Wait for your turn, pasasaan bat aasenso din tayo kahit di ganun kayaman basta comfortable na buhay lang ok na. Take it easy! Cheers! ;)Olats ako dito!! When I was being recruited ( relative pa ng big boss namin ). Nagresearch agad ako about HYIP. So at first I was skeptic and I already know this is a scam, c'mon 4.5% daily interest too good to be true. So anyway, I asked the person if this is a networking scheme, sabi di naman daw dahil you are not oblige to recruit a downline. So sabi ko at least I couldn't harm anyone if I opted to just invest and wait for my capital to return after 22 days. My boss invested his money and after less than 2 weeks he got his investment back and profited from it ( 400US$) coz being naive and all that with regards to ponzi sca, I think he recruited some of his relatives to invest to it too. Ika nga spread the good news lang. Anyway, going back to it, sa madaling salita I was deceived by my bosses cousin coz herself too was deceived by the higher ranks when she was recruited. So parang domino effect talaga. Sa madaling salita kahit na alam kong scam, pinasok ko pa rin hoping to profit from the interest. I was ignorant whatever or wherever they are using my investment for as long as I'm earning from it kasi they really do pay, pinakita pa sa akin ng boss ko yung bank account nya sa Banco De Oro, pumasok talaga yung transaction via internet.When I made my investment (3 days before the media exposure), I already conditioned my mind na wala na pera ko kasi tinaya ko na sa sugal. Talo or manalo ok lang, but syempre I would be a hypocrite If I would say na i'm not hoping to gain from it. All I was praying for the day I gave my money to the agent na sana wag munang matutukan ng media until I get my capital but alas! biglang naging news sa ABS-CBN for 3 days. Forecast pa naman namin ay tatagal pa ng mga 3 months ito.Well, eto ako ngayon, talunan. Ganyan talaga pag sumugal ka sa HYIP, you win some you lose some. It's all a matter of timing and luck, pero ganun pa rin galing pa rin sa pera ng iba yung kikitain mo which is very wrong. Kaya siguro ako pinatalo ni Lord para walang karmang bumalik sa akin. Well, another lesson learned for me. Charge ko na lang sa experience ko. Kaya ingat na lang kayo, don't be deceived by these schemes or be greedy. Wait for your turn, pasasaan bat aasenso din tayo kahit di ganun kayaman basta comfortable na buhay lang ok na. Take it easy! Cheers!