Warning About Toyota Cars

[camus]

really, i own a innova but not the high-end one..just the j class..but still, i would want to know...or are you talking about the recall that they announced?

[cooliti2007]

yup heard that one too that innova diesel has problem

[karim06]

Just a little heads up for those who have or are planning to buy a Toyota car.

 

Our 1.6 Toyota Altis automatic was bought way back in 2002, I personally liked the huge body and style of the car. And because it was a Toyota I was expected it to live up to the Toyota standards of quality and longevity. Fast forward to the present... its 2007 and our cars has about 40,000 kilometers on it, which in my opinion isn't a lot.

 

But lo and behold, the car suddenly becomes sluggish and has black smoke coming out of the muffler. But when brought to Toyota Quezon Avenue for a check up is given a clean bill of health (change oil lang daw). 2 days later my driver reported that during his daily checklist routine he found that the car had no more oil in it! A fact confirmed by Toyota Quezon Avenue when I brought it to them that same day, and guess what else they told me. They said I needed to have my engine overhauled. OVERHAULED!!! When 2 days ago it was given a clean bill of health and when the car only has 40,000kms on it.

 

I opted to have my car fixed at a auto shop my friend (who used to work for toyota) recommended. In short I spent 40K or so on the car. Sucks aint it. But this isnt just a rant about my personal experience. Because I know of another person who had the same exact trouble on his car. He is a very good friend from high school who I met a few weeks ago during our group reunion. He casually mentioned his complaints about his toyota to which I asked for more details.

 

Turns out he bought his toyota on the same year as I did, but get this. His car only has 18,000kms on it. Same symptoms (sluggishness, black smoke) and exact same diagnosis from Toyota Quezon Avenue , complete overhaul; where my friend spent in excess of 100k.

 

To get to the bottom of this I went back to the head mechanic of the auto shop I brought my car to. He used to work for Toyota and he said the people at toyota did admit to him of certain design flaws in the engine. Specifically he said that the oil pump of the car is too small and this is the main cause of engine failure. Since the oil pump is too small it cannot circulate the oil throughout the engine and as any mechanic knows, this will definitely cause the engine to need a premature overhaul.

 

He also said this doesn't just apply to the Toyota Altis but to all cars in their stable that has 1.6 and lower engines (Altis, Vios and the new one which I forget what its called) . Only the 1.8L Altis is said to be free from this defect.

 

So a word of warning to all potential car buyers out there. Just remember a brand name is just that, and is never a guarantee of quality.

 

A simple explanation here is carelessness. Di mo dapat hinahayaan sa driver ang mga bagay na dapat ikaw ang gumawa. Maintenance check should be performed by the owner and not by the driver.

 

Ang alam lang nan mag maneho basta umaandar ang kotse tira lang yan. And most the drivers I know are heavy footed. :thumbsdownsmiley:

They revved up the engine so much before changing gears. This could cause severe wear and tear if the engine doesn't follow a regular oil change.

The dirty oil passes to the oil pump first before it is send to the oil filter.

This means maaring bumigay kaagad ang oilpump pag parating madumi ang langis.

The dirty oil contains microscopic metal fillings which makes lubrication in effective. Friction then builds up inside the engine. You would notice your engine running hotter than the usual and acceleration is sluggish.

 

Especially in cities traffic congestion puts more stress on the engine.

[kevin_cosme]

basta ako toyota pa rin subok ko ang brand na yan for a long period of time basta marunong ka lang mag alaga ng sasakyan. alway maintain your car according to the book. :cool:

[brianicaro]

toyota is still the best. its up to the owner kung papano nya aalagaan ang sasakyan. parang tao din yan, kapag may sakit dapat ginagamot agad.

[dalagang_bukid]

yup heard that one too that innova diesel has problem

 

dude, do you have any details about the diesel problem? we're planning of buying an innova pa naman...

[hitomi]

dude, do you have any details about the diesel problem? we're planning of buying an innova pa naman...

 

i think its something in the crdi system. (toyota's d4d)

there's something wrong with the ECU.

i've heard that a fortuner with a d4d engine (same system as in the innova) just shut off by itself while it was travelling along

the road at 100+ kph. good thing no one was hurt.

[nayr]

sa tibay tlga.. toyota ang maasahan.. meron kaming toyota 2 units isa since 96 pa.. pagnakita nyo gud as new pa... yun isa naman corolla 2000 model la pang major repair na ginagawa.. tlgang reliable paggusto nyo ng kotseng pangmatagalan.. pero if you plan to change from time to time kahit ano pwd na.. since ur willing to change it after a few years.. :cool:

[OREO]

toyota is still the best. its up to the owner kung papano nya aalagaan ang sasakyan. parang tao din yan, kapag may sakit dapat ginagamot agad.

 

Though I believe that toyotas in general are very reliable, one cannot proclude the possibility that

they would have a bad design or a bad batch of parts once in a while. We have a 2002 1.6G Altis

and it was already burning oil when two years ago when it had only 40,000km. We do our own

maintenance so there is no casa to blame here. We have owned more than 40 cars in the last

20 years and none of them ever required an overhaul this early. The closest one would probably

be an FX with 85,000 kms on it.

[mr.bukol]

toyota EXPERIENCE- 1986 we bought tamaraw , hiace 1998 250k mileage b4 we sold it , 1999grandia upto now 300k mileage ok pa , 2001 grandia na overhauled 15ok mileage maybe na pabayaan maintenance , 2003 super grandia 140k mileage no repairs , 2006 innova J 5o k mileage , sa brother in law ko fortuner nagloko daw injection so under warranty pinalitan, less then 20k mileage ng fortuner nya, 2006 hiace grandia , yan ang experience namin sa toyota . contented sa service performance . yun lang, manila -launion byahe ko 2times a week, dpa ako tinirik nyan

[ngobry]

heard about the innova d4d diesel problem. use only clean diesel from certified stations

[chuker]

i think its something in the crdi system. (toyota's d4d)

there's something wrong with the ECU.

i've heard that a fortuner with a d4d engine (same system as in the innova) just shut off by itself while it was travelling along

the road at 100+ kph. good thing no one was hurt.

 

from what i've heard, the crdi does have a problem... it's based on the cylinder head being made out of alloy daw (not so sure about it, similar problem with the trooper also). can someone please bring light to this? for me, im not buying a diesel engine till the reviews get better.

[roxesjr]

sa lahat talaga ng product merong lumalabas na di maganda, imposible na walang lumabas na may defect.

 

malas mo lang kapag ikaw ang nakabili nito.

 

i had a mitsubishi lancer, honda civic esi and lxi, toyota altis and toyota revo sr.

 

you just cannot say that one is superior to the other or one is problem free, lahat yan may mga strength and weakness.

 

yung lancer naging problem ko dun yung engine cooling system, yung honda civic esi malakas sa gas and may problema sa electronic system pero grabe sa ganda ng response, zero to 100kph in less than 10 seconds, yung honda lxi nagluluko yung electronics ng cooling system and mabagal yung response pero ang tipid sa gas and ang gaan i-drive, yung altis ang bigat ng steering wheel, namimiss-align yung mga windows and minsan parang biglang nag-i-slide yung clutch lalo kapag bigla mong ni-rev-up (brand new lang ito ha) pero grabe sa tipid sa gas, manila to baguio to manila 40 liters lang. yung toyota revo sr naman laging may fuel knock tapos lakas pa sa gas, madali pang nakawin yung side mirrors, madali ding masira yung grills ng aircon, mahinang klase ng plastic, pero gaan naman ng handling at ginhawa pa sa space at may porma.

 

pero in the end, yung performance ng sasakyan depende pa rin sa pag-aalaga ng gumagamit nito. and on my observation, yung mga sasakyan na minamaneho ng mga employed drivers ang madalas na madaling masira, kasi hindi naman nag-ke-care yung mga employed drivers na hindi naman kanila yung sasakyan, lalo na kung masungit yung amo, sinisira pa nga, tapos kung walang alam yung may-ari sa sasakyan, madalas ginogoyo sila nung employed driver, kahit kamag-anak nyo pa yan. bihira yung employed drivers na may malasakit sa sasakyan, laging may sama ng loob yan sa amo, lalo na kung maliit lang ang sahod at napapagalitan pa. kaya mga pareko, try to learn more about your cars and don't entrust them to people who have no reason to care for it.

[gmtulis]

yeah...

maintaining your car is not as easy as going to casa whenever it had defects or trouble..

it should be regularly maintained..and as a driver you should know how, and the workaround "your car"

 

i would take a toyota car more than any other car...

 

magrereklamo agad na bad ang toyota..eh baka bad rin yng owner ehehehehe..

ang sagot lang dyan eh..find a good mechanic and ask what's the problem...and can offer aftermarket products that will surely lasts..

[superfunkibey]

Just goes to show that they will try to weasel out if they can. Who knows if they tell the truth or not. To all you people who posted your own experiences, I say thanks.

 

To all those people lucky enough to never have had any car issues, I say good for you.

 

And to all the pseudo mechanics out there... I bet its real hard not being able to think for yourself.

 

:lol: