Traffic Problem In Metro Manila (Merged Thread)

[Jasonkidd]

I think instead of setting sight on the expectation they are now managing it.

Parang when the usec for transportation was interviewed on what to expect in line with the government takeover of mrt operations. Ang sagot we cannot do miracles but we promise accountability. In otherwords sabi niya halimbawa maaga pa lang sasabihin na nila ganito lang karaming bagon ang kayang patakbuhin today so people should expect mahaba ang pila. So kung mga 30 min to 1 hr ang haba ng pila then agahan mo by that time para di ka mahuli ... ayos ganun pala ang accountability sabihin mo problema then kayo naman wag mag expect at mag adjust accordingly. In short managing/lowering expectations.

Now depende yan kung pro or con duterte. Yun dating nirereklamo mrt pero pro du30 ngayon eh tanggap nila sitwasyon kahit sa totoo lang wala naman nagbago.

 

Ako hindi ko tanggap. Araw araw ako nag MMRT LRT e hahaha. But napansin mo ba na they didnt point fingers to the previous administration? Pwede nilang sabihin kakagawan kasi ni Abaya to e. Or ni Mar to e. Though syempre they wanted them held accountable for those problems. Ang sang ayon ako diyan. One solution to traffic is more coaches talga. Kung mabilis ang dating ng mga coaches, mas maluwag. Kahit may sasakyan ka you will still take MRT kasi mas mabilis and comfortable. If mas maraming coaches a. Pero if not. GRABE. Daig pa sardinas.

[rooster69ph]

Ako hindi ko tanggap. Araw araw ako nag MMRT LRT e hahaha. But napansin mo ba na they didnt point fingers to the previous administration? Pwede nilang sabihin kakagawan kasi ni Abaya to e. Or ni Mar to e. Though syempre they wanted them held accountable for those problems. Ang sang ayon ako diyan. One solution to traffic is more coaches talga. Kung mabilis ang dating ng mga coaches, mas maluwag. Kahit may sasakyan ka you will still take MRT kasi mas mabilis and comfortable. If mas maraming coaches a. Pero if not. GRABE. Daig pa sardinas.

Really? They didn’t point fingers? Hmmp that's another hot issue that is quite debatable so i'll leave that statement as it is. But as i've always reiterated i am in favor of filing a case to those who should be held accountable for any irregularities as far as the maintenance contract entered into by the past admin.

 

Pero isantabi muna natin ang issue regarding sa pinasukang maintenance contract ng dating namumuno sa dotc at suriin natin kung papaano naimaintain ng mga nakaraang administrasyon ang mrt. When we talk about maintenance ang mga bagon lang ba dapat minemaintain? What about yun terminal as well as yun mga facilities? Sa totoo lang mukhang pinabayaan over time. Yun ibang istasyon pundido ilaw at ang dumi ang pasukan tinatambayan pa minsan ng taong grasa o mga di mo matancha kung addict o holdaper/magnanakaw. Yun mga elevator/escalator di gumagana pero hindi agad napapaayos. Itong mga bagay na ito tayong ordinaryong mamamayan nakikita natin kasi hindi kailangan ng technical skills tulad ng pagdetermina kung ang mga bagon ba any properly maintained. And doon pa lang kita na natin hindi properly maintained ang mrt. Sa mga bagon naman kahit dati am sure nasakyan mo na ang mga bagon na ang hina ng aircon yun iba nga binubuksan na bintana para may hangin na pumasok. Is that proper maintenance? Alam mo sa ibang bansa nagkakataon din na nakakasakay ako ng mrt nila at siksikan din na parang sardinas during peak times. Halimbawa na lang sa hong kong o japan pero kahit ganun kahit papaano comfortable pa din ang pakiramdanm ng mananakay. I personally believe napabayaan natin ito over time kaya lumala ng ganito sitwasyon.

 

Kahapon may napakinggan ako sa radyo iniinterview, isang engineer but inforgot the name at pinaguusapan tungkol sa issue ng maintenance problem sa mrt. Sabi nga niya kinausap at nagrekomenda na raw siya kay usec chavez na baguhin na ang sistema ng maintenance contract at gawing long term. Sabi niya sa ngayon ang plano pa rin kasi ng gobyerno is to use/apply the same old formula on contracting maintenance provider. Well hindi kataka-taka kasi itong si usec eh dati na palang involve o connected sa lrt kaya over time yun sistema sa lrt inapply din sa mrt. Sabi ni engineer puro short term maintenance contract lang ang binibigay ng gobyerno therefore yun mga maintenance provider natural hindi rin nagiinvest ng malaki kasi in a few years tapos na kontrata niya at maaring mapalitan. Kadalasan di rin ito naiis-stock ng mga piyesa. Sabi rin nga niya yun mga technicians na inabsorb ng dotc ngayong mula sa huling maintenance provider eh halos 10 taon nang casual yun iba diyan doing the same work. So from his statement i do think it further validated un pananaw ko. Pero sa tingin ko isa lang ito sa mga naging problema marami pa yan di natin lang alam.

[tomagants]

Ngayo meron naman batas ipapatibayin nag yellow lane . tapos and motorcycle accident para mabawasan ipatupad ang motorcycle lane.. Mukhang may pagbabago

[clint01astig]

i hope that one day traffic will be solved in manila. i think the great factor that affects traffic is the increasing number of busses.

[Jasonkidd]

Andaming propaganda noong eleksyon kesyo malaki maiimprove ng MRT pag nanalo si Tatay Digz. Kesyo madaming bagong bagon na dadating. May mga bullet train pang proposals. Sumatotal wala naman pinagkaiba mas malala pa nga yata eh. Just being honest

 

Antayin natin manalo si Senadora Moccha. Baka maisakatuparan na ang change is coming ng mga loyal followers

I think ginagawa na ung mga trains connecting to Mindanaos. May proposal pa na gagawin din ang trains papuntang Tuguegarao. I think what Digong missed is corruption ( it will take more than him to stop it), traffic, MRT, and my personal concern the telecommunications. Other than that like sugpuin ang drugs ( well, I am not sure if bumaba nga ang bilang )but he is really serious about it, mga help centers like 8888 and the 911. Mga help centers for our OFWs. And one of the ones that I really like is sa mga goverment employees natin naging mas takot na sa atin mga taxpayers. Dati kasi sila ang matapang. Pag sinabing busy sila busy sila. Now hindi na. ( Im not sure if its because of the social media na pag nag viral e natatanggal sila. )

[red60]

Ako hindi ko tanggap. Araw araw ako nag MMRT LRT e hahaha. But napansin mo ba na they didnt point fingers to the previous administration? Pwede nilang sabihin kakagawan kasi ni Abaya to e. Or ni Mar to e. Though syempre they wanted them held accountable for those problems. Ang sang ayon ako diyan. One solution to traffic is more coaches talga. Kung mabilis ang dating ng mga coaches, mas maluwag. Kahit may sasakyan ka you will still take MRT kasi mas mabilis and comfortable. If mas maraming coaches a. Pero if not. GRABE. Daig pa sardinas.

 

Didn't point fingers??? Dude saan kweba ka nakatira they have been blaming the past administration despite being in power for more than a year. They filed plunder charges against Abaya et al. Well sa totoo lang may kasalanan talaga yung previous admin pero at this point more than a year na sila parang lalong mas grabe pa yung situation. I think they should be held accountable. Pagkakaalala ko aayusin daw in 6 months mukhang mas naging worse pa.

[Jasonkidd]

I think I wrote there they wanted them held accountable. Meaning kakasuhan sila. At hindi ung puro salita na kagagawan ni ganito or ni gnyan. There is a difference. If puro finger pointing ginagawa, Mar et al won't be able to prove their innocence. Pag kinasuhan, then dapat may ebidensiya, witnesses and mga contracts na pinasukan nila Abaya na ipapakita. Now we'll see if the judgement or how they were charged. Dun pa lang ako magsasalita. Someone really needs to be held accountable at hindi ung puro kagagawan ng nakaraang admistrasyon without them a chance to defend themselves.

 

Honestly I can't say if it is worst or not. Taft to Magallanes lang ako kaya hindi ko ramdam hehe. But based on reports yes. Mas malala nga. It's the situation that is worst and not the contract or the coach that was purchased that they should be held accountable. Kasi ung kina Abaya is like they purchased a coach that is unuseable? And from what I've heard, Abaya is powerless against someone higher when he purchased the coach. So he doesnt have the authority to do the right thing. Well, un ang ugong ugong..

[Bolj]

I think I wrote there they wanted them held accountable. Meaning kakasuhan sila. At hindi ung puro salita na kagagawan ni ganito or ni gnyan. There is a difference. If puro finger pointing ginagawa, Mar et al won't be able to prove their innocence. Pag kinasuhan, then dapat may ebidensiya, witnesses and mga contracts na pinasukan nila Abaya na ipapakita. Now we'll see if the judgement or how they were charged. Dun pa lang ako magsasalita. Someone really needs to be held accountable at hindi ung puro kagagawan ng nakaraang admistrasyon without them a chance to defend themselves.

Honestly I can't say if it is worst or not. Taft to Magallanes lang ako kaya hindi ko ramdam hehe. But based on reports yes. Mas malala nga. It's the situation that is worst and not the contract or the coach that was purchased that they should be held accountable. Kasi ung kina Abaya is like they purchased a coach that is unuseable? And from what I've heard, Abaya is powerless against someone higher when he purchased the coach. So he doesnt have the authority to do the right thing. Well, un ang ugong ugong..

No amount of infrastructure of this administration could solve the traffic nightmare. Only by developing outside cities and decongesting mega manila and other key cities will do.

 

Did not vote for duterte, but anti duterte people saying those who voted for duterte because of his 6 months promises on drugs,corruption,traffic are dreaming and fooling themselves to believe it.

[haroots2]

No amount of infrastructure of this administration could solve the traffic nightmare. Only by developing outside cities and decongesting mega manila and other key cities will do.

 

Did not vote for duterte, but anti duterte people saying those who voted for duterte because of his 6 months promises on drugs,corruption,traffic are dreaming and fooling themselves to believe it.

 

I voted for Du30 but I never believed the 6mo. promise on drugs. About the traffic there is no short term solution on it. I believe federalism will help kasi other provinces magiging maunlad para decongest ang NCR pero hindi rin ito instant na mangyayari upon implementation ng federalism kung makapasa na ito sa congress.

[rooster69ph]

 

I voted for Du30 but I never believed the 6mo. promise on drugs. About the traffic there is no short term solution on it. I believe federalism will help kasi other provinces magiging maunlad para decongest ang NCR pero hindi rin ito instant na mangyayari upon implementation ng federalism kung makapasa na ito sa congress.

Tawag diyan managing your expectations. Now depende sa bias ng isang tao he can lower or maintain expectations based sa pinangako diba.

 

Halimbawa traffic problem panahon ni PNoy ilan sa mga dutertards panay reklamo ngayon ilan ang biglang nag rationalize at tanggap na sitwasyon.

 

That's the reality. Paingayan lang naman yan ... kung mas maingay ang mga anti PNoy natural ang maririnig natin dati un reklamo at ngayon yun mga papuri or at least rationalized acceptance. Eh may nagbago ba?

 

Laging argumento eh may ginagawa naman...kaya ayun sabi nga ni kabayan about sa reklamo kung bakit daw mas naging traffic or traffic pa din sa ngayon sa edsa eh may ginagawa naman daw mmda pero di naman sinabi mawawala traffic. Lol

[Bolj]

Tawag diyan managing your expectations. Now depende sa bias ng isang tao he can lower or maintain expectations based sa pinangako diba.

Halimbawa traffic problem panahon ni PNoy ilan sa mga dutertards panay reklamo ngayon ilan ang biglang nag rationalize at tanggap na sitwasyon.

That's the reality. Paingayan lang naman yan ... kung mas maingay ang mga anti PNoy natural ang maririnig natin dati un reklamo at ngayon yun mga papuri or at least rationalized acceptance. Eh may nagbago ba?

Laging argumento eh may ginagawa naman...kaya ayun sabi nga ni kabayan about sa reklamo kung bakit daw mas naging traffic or traffic pa din sa ngayon sa edsa eh may ginagawa naman daw mmda pero di naman sinabi mawawala traffic. Lol

The thing is rooster, like haroots most of pro digong that i know of in different forums and social media didn't vote for dutertz on that 6mos B.S. what anti digong people tend to always blab about is the 6mos that they "think" people voted for duterte. Sila sila or kayu kayu lang din naglolokohan.

[Bolj]

I voted for Du30 but I never believed the 6mo. promise on drugs. About the traffic there is no short term solution on it. I believe federalism will help kasi other provinces magiging maunlad para decongest ang NCR pero hindi rin ito instant na mangyayari upon implementation ng federalism kung makapasa na ito sa congress.

All i can say is d pa nila nagets mga katulad mo na bomoto sa kanya, ya tama ka sa decongestion about manila region

[tk421]

Tama naman talaga yun decongestion ng Manila as a solution, eh.

 

Pero as for Federalism as a means, I'm not so sure. On paper I agree with it. Pero it has a lot of potential to be abused. Basically, I don't trust these so-called representatives now.

 

Siguro i develop nila nang seroyoso yun railway system papunta sa outlying provinces para mag grow yun mga yun.

[rooster69ph]

The thing is rooster, like haroots most of pro digong that i know of in different forums and social media didn't vote for dutertz on that 6mos B.S. what anti digong people tend to always blab about is the 6mos that they "think" people voted for duterte. Sila sila or kayu kayu lang din naglolokohan.

Oh yeah? Quite literal ang take up. But di naman lahat ng bumoto eh di naniwala sa kanyang pinagsasabi di ba. Pero simplehan natin ang argumento ..

 

 

Kahit ano pa naging basehan ng pagpili ng isang tao sa kanya may kani-kaniyang expectations yan. Yun iba maaring naniniwala 6 mos ok na drug problem yun iba pinili siya regarless kung magawa niya ba yan o hindi kasi ibang issue ang inaasahan niya kay duterte halimbawa anti corruption. But malinaw naman batay sa survey mataas ang pagasa ng pinoy na he can deliver his promises pero dun sa latest survey hindi ba madami na nagdududa?

 

Maybe we should look at it that way. In general maybe expectations of what he actually can deliver is lower than the expectation of what he supposedly can deliver.

[Bolj]

Oh yeah? Quite literal ang take up. But di naman lahat ng bumoto eh di naniwala sa kanyang pinagsasabi di ba. Pero simplehan natin ang argumento ..

Kahit ano pa naging basehan ng pagpili ng isang tao sa kanya may kani-kaniyang expectations yan. Yun iba maaring naniniwala 6 mos ok na drug problem yun iba pinili siya regarless kung magawa niya ba yan o hindi kasi ibang issue ang inaasahan niya kay duterte halimbawa anti corruption. But malinaw naman batay sa survey mataas ang pagasa ng pinoy na he can deliver his promises pero dun sa latest survey hindi ba madami na nagdududa?

Maybe we should look at it that way. In general maybe expectations of what he actually can deliver is lower than the expectation of what he supposedly can deliver.

Oh yeah? Quite literal ang take up. But di naman lahat ng bumoto eh di naniwala sa kanyang pinagsasabi di ba. Pero simplehan natin ang argumento ..

Kahit ano pa naging basehan ng pagpili ng isang tao sa kanya may kani-kaniyang expectations yan. Yun iba maaring naniniwala 6 mos ok na drug problem yun iba pinili siya regarless kung magawa niya ba yan o hindi kasi ibang issue ang inaasahan niya kay duterte halimbawa anti corruption. But malinaw naman batay sa survey mataas ang pagasa ng pinoy na he can deliver his promises pero dun sa latest survey hindi ba madami na nagdududa?

Maybe we should look at it that way. In general maybe expectations of what he actually can deliver is lower than the expectation of what he supposedly can deliver.

Well actually a lot of those who voted for the guy are doctors, engrs, lawyers. Also some anti dutertz people here should also consider about their mentality. Pag labas kasi sa bunganga ng most anti dutertz dito parang mga estupido lang ang bomoto sa kanya which isn't true. And most of those intellectually inclined pro dutertz supporters did not mind that 6mos B.S. in the first place. So wag nyu pakain sa kanila mga ganyang one liner st*pid statements.

 

Did you read the questions for the survey anyway? Its quite subjective and the result can be given a different interpretation.