Traffic Problem In Metro Manila (Merged Thread)

[wek1012]

if they gonna proceed with jeepney upgrade and route rationalization, some jeepney route should not be served by current sized jeepeneys. larger ones should replace them instead.

 

like in recto, there are just too many jeepneys

[rooster69ph]

my fears on the modernization program has somewhat been validated thru an interview of a ltfrb official in a radio program yesterday. Ayaw na ng ltfrb magbigay ng fare increase sa ngayon because of the impending modernization program. Sabi kasi ang nirarason ng mga driver eh yun pagtaas ng presyo ng diesel but most specially yun maintenance cost dahil sa piyesa. Eh ang sabi under the modernization program since bago lower maintenance cost.

 

Pero ang tanong na bumabagabag nga sa akin ay paano kakayanin ng ordinaryong juan ang makabili ng bagong jeep na higit isang milyon? Nabanggit nga sa interview na sa ngayon halos 1000 lang kada araw ang kinikta sa pagpapasada at ibawas mo pa boundary na 800 kaya halos 200 na lang naiuuwi sa pamilya na kinukulang talaga. At boom biglang may nabanggit na yun mga driver daw magiging swelduhan na instead na "boundary" sa modernization program kaya mas gaganda ang kita.

 

Come to think of it, hindi kaya pro operator ang programang ito? Sila lang ang may kakayahang mangapital. Paano naman yun current operator/driver na isang unit lang ang pinanghahanap buhay? I wonder if microfinancing will be easily made available for them as well. I think the gov't should have considered this and come up with a concrete IRR.

Ahahahaha. Nice segwey!!!

 

Napansin mo din pala.

[Freddie C.]

any dapat ayusin na din yung mga UV express na parang jeepney pumasada kaya tigil andar kahit saan. nakakabagal ng trapik.

[rooster69ph]

Lintek ang trapik sa Manila. Grabe.

According to a Tard ... Why are you whinning about it when you got no solution when asked. Kung walang solusyon si lodi at wala ka din maibigay na solusyon silent mode na lang please.

[camiar]

 

Pero ang tanong na bumabagabag nga sa akin ay paano kakayanin ng ordinaryong juan ang makabili ng bagong jeep na higit isang milyon? Nabanggit nga sa interview na sa ngayon halos 1000 lang kada araw ang kinikta sa pagpapasada at ibawas mo pa boundary na 800 kaya halos 200 na lang naiuuwi sa pamilya na kinukulang talaga.

 

Hindi totoo yang sinasabi mo. Mahigit PhP1000 - 1500 ang kinikita ng PUJ. At typically PhP 600 ang boundary. A jeepney driver makes at least PhP 600 a day after deducting boundary and fuel cost.

 

The operator, on the other hand, gets PhP 600 boundary, but the maintenance cost is a continuing burden.

[rooster69ph]

Hindi totoo yang sinasabi mo. Mahigit PhP1000 - 1500 ang kinikita ng PUJ. At typically PhP 600 ang boundary. A jeepney driver makes at least PhP 600 a day after deducting boundary and fuel cost.

 

The operator, on the other hand, gets PhP 600 boundary, but the maintenance cost is a continuing burden.

 

Ay totoy bibo wag ako ang sisihin mo kasi yan ang sinabi sa interview.

 

Pero hiyang hiya naman ako sa figure ma sinabi mo na para bang ikaw lang ang tama at yun sinabi mo ay siyang dapat paniwalaan.

 

Anyway batay dito halimbawa sa interview na ito 900 na daw ang kanyang boundary na ang layo sa 600 na sinasabi mo. So as if ikaw at yan sinabi mo ang tanging tama.

 

https://blackhelios.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/a-confession-of-a-jeepney-driver/

[tk421]

Wow... so with the Jeepney Modernization scheme, the operator might want to take in more boundaries because of the high cost of the new units. Coupled with the new tax scheme the poor Jeepeney driver will be sure on the losing end.

 

Yes, I know the new jeepneys are supposed to be electric and should not be affected by the rise in fuel cost... but electricity is also indirectly affected by the tax scheme, right?

[tk421]

Parang nag hong kong lang ah.

[haroots2]

Ay totoy bibo wag ako ang sisihin mo kasi yan ang sinabi sa interview.

 

Pero hiyang hiya naman ako sa figure ma sinabi mo na para bang ikaw lang ang tama at yun sinabi mo ay siyang dapat paniwalaan.

 

Anyway batay dito halimbawa sa interview na ito 900 na daw ang kanyang boundary na ang layo sa 600 na sinasabi mo. So as if ikaw at yan sinabi mo ang tanging tama.

 

https://blackhelios.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/a-confession-of-a-jeepney-driver/

 

Boundaries depends on the unit. Like taxi kung bago mas mahal. Also sa jeep kapag mas mahaba mas mahal. Pero ang usual take home pay talaga ng mga jeepney drivers are around 600+. May mga route pa nga na kumikita ng 1k.

[rooster69ph]

@haroots Not only on the unit but more likely the route plays a significant factor in determining the boundary.

 

So are you saying the article is baseless?

[haroots2]

@haroots Not only on the unit but more likely the route plays a significant factor in determining the boundary.

 

So are you saying the article is baseless?

 

The article is not baseless, pero kung mag example ka i accurate mo naman. Sabi mo take home pay 200, kalahati agad from the article na 400.

[rooster69ph]

 

The article is not baseless, pero kung mag example ka i accurate mo naman. Sabi mo take home pay 200, kalahati agad from the article na 400.

hindi baseless pero di accurate...that's what you are saying? Laughable isn't it.

 

So if it was quoted directly from a live radio interview from a resource person hindi accurate?

 

Alam mo big deal 200 o 400 man yan isa lang ang tanong ko un 400 ba granted for argument sake yan ang figure sufficient para sa isang driver na may pamilya?

[haroots2]

hindi baseless pero di accurate...that's what you are saying? Laughable isn't it.

 

So if it was quoted directly from a live radio interview from a resource person hindi accurate?

 

Alam mo big deal 200 o 400 man yan isa lang ang tanong ko un 400 ba granted for argument sake yan ang figure sufficient para sa isang driver na may pamilya?

 

Hellooo, ikaw ang nag post ng 200, saan mo binase yun e dun sa article is 400. Yung accuracy is pointed on how you post. Nasa ibang frequency ka nanaman.

Edited December 18, 2017 by haroots2

[rooster69ph]

 

Hellooo, ikaw ang nag post ng 200, saan mo binase yun ed un sa article is 400. Yung accuracy is pointed on how you post. Nasa ibang frequency ka nanaman.

Tulad ng sinabi ko kung binasa m talaga sabi ko narinig ko sa interview sa radio program ni ka tunying to be exact. Ano gusto mo magimbento ako at ilagay ang isang figure na di sinabi dun sa interview?

[tk421]

Why are you guys even arguing if it's 200 o 400 o kahit 600 pa man yan? It's still well below what it takes for the average juan to survive on, much less raise a family.

 

1 ) Yun mga pro-modernization (in its current form): we'd like to hear from you how this will help the average jeepney driver considering the current boundary system.

 

2 ) Do you think the boundary system should still be implemented?

 

We know modernization of the public transport should be done, but it's my opinion that should be done right and with healthy consideration for the welfare of the drivers themselves.