Traffic Problem In Metro Manila (Merged Thread)

[Jasonkidd]

Andaming propaganda noong eleksyon kesyo malaki maiimprove ng MRT pag nanalo si Tatay Digz. Kesyo madaming bagong bagon na dadating. May mga bullet train pang proposals. Sumatotal wala naman pinagkaiba mas malala pa nga yata eh. Just being honest

 

Antayin natin manalo si Senadora Moccha. Baka maisakatuparan na ang change is coming ng mga loyal followers

I think ginagawa na ung mga trains connecting to Mindanaos. May proposal pa na gagawin din ang trains papuntang Tuguegarao. I think what Digong missed is corruption ( it will take more than him to stop it), traffic, MRT, and my personal concern the telecommunications. Other than that like sugpuin ang drugs ( well, I am not sure if bumaba nga ang bilang )but he is really serious about it, mga help centers like 8888 and the 911. Mga help centers for our OFWs. And one of the ones that I really like is sa mga goverment employees natin naging mas takot na sa atin mga taxpayers. Dati kasi sila ang matapang. Pag sinabing busy sila busy sila. Now hindi na. ( Im not sure if its because of the social media na pag nag viral e natatanggal sila. )

[red60]

Ako hindi ko tanggap. Araw araw ako nag MMRT LRT e hahaha. But napansin mo ba na they didnt point fingers to the previous administration? Pwede nilang sabihin kakagawan kasi ni Abaya to e. Or ni Mar to e. Though syempre they wanted them held accountable for those problems. Ang sang ayon ako diyan. One solution to traffic is more coaches talga. Kung mabilis ang dating ng mga coaches, mas maluwag. Kahit may sasakyan ka you will still take MRT kasi mas mabilis and comfortable. If mas maraming coaches a. Pero if not. GRABE. Daig pa sardinas.

 

Didn't point fingers??? Dude saan kweba ka nakatira they have been blaming the past administration despite being in power for more than a year. They filed plunder charges against Abaya et al. Well sa totoo lang may kasalanan talaga yung previous admin pero at this point more than a year na sila parang lalong mas grabe pa yung situation. I think they should be held accountable. Pagkakaalala ko aayusin daw in 6 months mukhang mas naging worse pa.

[Jasonkidd]

I think I wrote there they wanted them held accountable. Meaning kakasuhan sila. At hindi ung puro salita na kagagawan ni ganito or ni gnyan. There is a difference. If puro finger pointing ginagawa, Mar et al won't be able to prove their innocence. Pag kinasuhan, then dapat may ebidensiya, witnesses and mga contracts na pinasukan nila Abaya na ipapakita. Now we'll see if the judgement or how they were charged. Dun pa lang ako magsasalita. Someone really needs to be held accountable at hindi ung puro kagagawan ng nakaraang admistrasyon without them a chance to defend themselves.

 

Honestly I can't say if it is worst or not. Taft to Magallanes lang ako kaya hindi ko ramdam hehe. But based on reports yes. Mas malala nga. It's the situation that is worst and not the contract or the coach that was purchased that they should be held accountable. Kasi ung kina Abaya is like they purchased a coach that is unuseable? And from what I've heard, Abaya is powerless against someone higher when he purchased the coach. So he doesnt have the authority to do the right thing. Well, un ang ugong ugong..

[Bolj]

I think I wrote there they wanted them held accountable. Meaning kakasuhan sila. At hindi ung puro salita na kagagawan ni ganito or ni gnyan. There is a difference. If puro finger pointing ginagawa, Mar et al won't be able to prove their innocence. Pag kinasuhan, then dapat may ebidensiya, witnesses and mga contracts na pinasukan nila Abaya na ipapakita. Now we'll see if the judgement or how they were charged. Dun pa lang ako magsasalita. Someone really needs to be held accountable at hindi ung puro kagagawan ng nakaraang admistrasyon without them a chance to defend themselves.

Honestly I can't say if it is worst or not. Taft to Magallanes lang ako kaya hindi ko ramdam hehe. But based on reports yes. Mas malala nga. It's the situation that is worst and not the contract or the coach that was purchased that they should be held accountable. Kasi ung kina Abaya is like they purchased a coach that is unuseable? And from what I've heard, Abaya is powerless against someone higher when he purchased the coach. So he doesnt have the authority to do the right thing. Well, un ang ugong ugong..

No amount of infrastructure of this administration could solve the traffic nightmare. Only by developing outside cities and decongesting mega manila and other key cities will do.

 

Did not vote for duterte, but anti duterte people saying those who voted for duterte because of his 6 months promises on drugs,corruption,traffic are dreaming and fooling themselves to believe it.

[haroots2]

No amount of infrastructure of this administration could solve the traffic nightmare. Only by developing outside cities and decongesting mega manila and other key cities will do.

 

Did not vote for duterte, but anti duterte people saying those who voted for duterte because of his 6 months promises on drugs,corruption,traffic are dreaming and fooling themselves to believe it.

 

I voted for Du30 but I never believed the 6mo. promise on drugs. About the traffic there is no short term solution on it. I believe federalism will help kasi other provinces magiging maunlad para decongest ang NCR pero hindi rin ito instant na mangyayari upon implementation ng federalism kung makapasa na ito sa congress.

[rooster69ph]

 

I voted for Du30 but I never believed the 6mo. promise on drugs. About the traffic there is no short term solution on it. I believe federalism will help kasi other provinces magiging maunlad para decongest ang NCR pero hindi rin ito instant na mangyayari upon implementation ng federalism kung makapasa na ito sa congress.

Tawag diyan managing your expectations. Now depende sa bias ng isang tao he can lower or maintain expectations based sa pinangako diba.

 

Halimbawa traffic problem panahon ni PNoy ilan sa mga dutertards panay reklamo ngayon ilan ang biglang nag rationalize at tanggap na sitwasyon.

 

That's the reality. Paingayan lang naman yan ... kung mas maingay ang mga anti PNoy natural ang maririnig natin dati un reklamo at ngayon yun mga papuri or at least rationalized acceptance. Eh may nagbago ba?

 

Laging argumento eh may ginagawa naman...kaya ayun sabi nga ni kabayan about sa reklamo kung bakit daw mas naging traffic or traffic pa din sa ngayon sa edsa eh may ginagawa naman daw mmda pero di naman sinabi mawawala traffic. Lol

[Bolj]

Tawag diyan managing your expectations. Now depende sa bias ng isang tao he can lower or maintain expectations based sa pinangako diba.

Halimbawa traffic problem panahon ni PNoy ilan sa mga dutertards panay reklamo ngayon ilan ang biglang nag rationalize at tanggap na sitwasyon.

That's the reality. Paingayan lang naman yan ... kung mas maingay ang mga anti PNoy natural ang maririnig natin dati un reklamo at ngayon yun mga papuri or at least rationalized acceptance. Eh may nagbago ba?

Laging argumento eh may ginagawa naman...kaya ayun sabi nga ni kabayan about sa reklamo kung bakit daw mas naging traffic or traffic pa din sa ngayon sa edsa eh may ginagawa naman daw mmda pero di naman sinabi mawawala traffic. Lol

The thing is rooster, like haroots most of pro digong that i know of in different forums and social media didn't vote for dutertz on that 6mos B.S. what anti digong people tend to always blab about is the 6mos that they "think" people voted for duterte. Sila sila or kayu kayu lang din naglolokohan.

[Bolj]

I voted for Du30 but I never believed the 6mo. promise on drugs. About the traffic there is no short term solution on it. I believe federalism will help kasi other provinces magiging maunlad para decongest ang NCR pero hindi rin ito instant na mangyayari upon implementation ng federalism kung makapasa na ito sa congress.

All i can say is d pa nila nagets mga katulad mo na bomoto sa kanya, ya tama ka sa decongestion about manila region

[tk421]

Tama naman talaga yun decongestion ng Manila as a solution, eh.

 

Pero as for Federalism as a means, I'm not so sure. On paper I agree with it. Pero it has a lot of potential to be abused. Basically, I don't trust these so-called representatives now.

 

Siguro i develop nila nang seroyoso yun railway system papunta sa outlying provinces para mag grow yun mga yun.

[rooster69ph]

The thing is rooster, like haroots most of pro digong that i know of in different forums and social media didn't vote for dutertz on that 6mos B.S. what anti digong people tend to always blab about is the 6mos that they "think" people voted for duterte. Sila sila or kayu kayu lang din naglolokohan.

Oh yeah? Quite literal ang take up. But di naman lahat ng bumoto eh di naniwala sa kanyang pinagsasabi di ba. Pero simplehan natin ang argumento ..

 

 

Kahit ano pa naging basehan ng pagpili ng isang tao sa kanya may kani-kaniyang expectations yan. Yun iba maaring naniniwala 6 mos ok na drug problem yun iba pinili siya regarless kung magawa niya ba yan o hindi kasi ibang issue ang inaasahan niya kay duterte halimbawa anti corruption. But malinaw naman batay sa survey mataas ang pagasa ng pinoy na he can deliver his promises pero dun sa latest survey hindi ba madami na nagdududa?

 

Maybe we should look at it that way. In general maybe expectations of what he actually can deliver is lower than the expectation of what he supposedly can deliver.

[Bolj]

Oh yeah? Quite literal ang take up. But di naman lahat ng bumoto eh di naniwala sa kanyang pinagsasabi di ba. Pero simplehan natin ang argumento ..

Kahit ano pa naging basehan ng pagpili ng isang tao sa kanya may kani-kaniyang expectations yan. Yun iba maaring naniniwala 6 mos ok na drug problem yun iba pinili siya regarless kung magawa niya ba yan o hindi kasi ibang issue ang inaasahan niya kay duterte halimbawa anti corruption. But malinaw naman batay sa survey mataas ang pagasa ng pinoy na he can deliver his promises pero dun sa latest survey hindi ba madami na nagdududa?

Maybe we should look at it that way. In general maybe expectations of what he actually can deliver is lower than the expectation of what he supposedly can deliver.

Oh yeah? Quite literal ang take up. But di naman lahat ng bumoto eh di naniwala sa kanyang pinagsasabi di ba. Pero simplehan natin ang argumento ..

Kahit ano pa naging basehan ng pagpili ng isang tao sa kanya may kani-kaniyang expectations yan. Yun iba maaring naniniwala 6 mos ok na drug problem yun iba pinili siya regarless kung magawa niya ba yan o hindi kasi ibang issue ang inaasahan niya kay duterte halimbawa anti corruption. But malinaw naman batay sa survey mataas ang pagasa ng pinoy na he can deliver his promises pero dun sa latest survey hindi ba madami na nagdududa?

Maybe we should look at it that way. In general maybe expectations of what he actually can deliver is lower than the expectation of what he supposedly can deliver.

Well actually a lot of those who voted for the guy are doctors, engrs, lawyers. Also some anti dutertz people here should also consider about their mentality. Pag labas kasi sa bunganga ng most anti dutertz dito parang mga estupido lang ang bomoto sa kanya which isn't true. And most of those intellectually inclined pro dutertz supporters did not mind that 6mos B.S. in the first place. So wag nyu pakain sa kanila mga ganyang one liner st*pid statements.

 

Did you read the questions for the survey anyway? Its quite subjective and the result can be given a different interpretation.

[rooster69ph]

Well actually a lot of those who voted for the guy are doctors, engrs, lawyers. Also some anti dutertz people here should also consider about their mentality. Pag labas kasi sa bunganga ng most anti dutertz dito parang mga estupido lang ang bomoto sa kanya which isn't true. And most of those intellectually inclined pro dutertz supporters did not mind that 6mos B.S. in the first place. So wag nyu pakain sa kanila mga ganyang one liner st*pid statements.

 

Did you read the questions for the survey anyway? Its quite subjective and the result can be given a different interpretation.

Tit for tat lang din naman yan ... some pro duterte are also guilty of such at times. Hindi ka ba nakarinig ng hirit na bakit di nagpasagasa sa train si PNoy sabay pakita ng video clip nun speech niya. Laganap sa social media yan ng mga dutertrolls. Sabi nga pikon talo.

 

Kaya nga yun nakakaintindi siguro isipin o tingnan natin ito sa kontekstong sinabi ko na ano ba ang orig expectations nun binoto vs realization. Magpakatotoo tayo hindi dahil sa preference bias.

 

Pero ako simple lang kasi ang paniniwala ko. Wag kang magbibitaw ng salita na di mo kayang tuparin. Unless you can assure me 100% ng bumoto hindi totally kinagat at face value sinabi niya Otherwise subjective din kung alin ba ang mapapaniwalaan o hindi. pag nagawa ang galing pag hindi naku ba't ka naniwala

 

 

 

Yun perception naman kung satisfied ka sa performance niya is quite subjective din anyway di ba

 

For example yun simpleng issue na lang kung nasayang ba ang mega rehab center eh iba iba batayan ng bawa't isa and each decide base on one's perspective anyway.

Edited November 23, 2017 by rooster69ph

[tk421]

Sumakay ng MRT3 si Roque. Not too bad daw. (With matching security escorts)

 

https://www.rappler.com/nation/189337-presidential-spokesperson-harry-roque-mrt-experience-not-that-bad

 

Galawang Kris Aquino lang nun panahon ni Penoy, ‘no?

[rooster69ph]

Sumakay ng MRT3 si Roque. Not too bad daw. (With matching security escorts)

https://www.rappler.com/nation/189337-presidential-spokesperson-harry-roque-mrt-experience-not-that-bad

Galawang Kris Aquino lang nun panahon ni Penoy, ‘no?

Epal move para sa political plans .... Ganun lang kasimple.

 

Si Usec Chavez nagresign na out of delikadeza. Siya yun nagsabi na he promise they will be accountable ... I salute you! But your boss? Hmp ... Well he said only the president can fire him. The president hasn't fire him. Does it mean pareho silang walang delikadeza?

[Bolj]

Tit for tat lang din naman yan ... some pro duterte are also guilty of such at times. Hindi ka ba nakarinig ng hirit na bakit di nagpasagasa sa train si PNoy sabay pakita ng video clip nun speech niya. Laganap sa social media yan ng mga dutertrolls. Sabi nga pikon talo.

Kaya nga yun nakakaintindi siguro isipin o tingnan natin ito sa kontekstong sinabi ko na ano ba ang orig expectations nun binoto vs realization. Magpakatotoo tayo hindi dahil sa preference bias.

Pero ako simple lang kasi ang paniniwala ko. Wag kang magbibitaw ng salita na di mo kayang tuparin. Unless you can assure me 100% ng bumoto hindi totally kinagat at face value sinabi niya Otherwise subjective din kung alin ba ang mapapaniwalaan o hindi. pag nagawa ang galing pag hindi naku ba't ka naniwala

Yun perception naman kung satisfied ka sa performance niya is quite subjective din anyway di ba

For example yun simpleng issue na lang kung nasayang ba ang mega rehab center eh iba iba batayan ng bawa't isa and each decide base on one's perspective anyway.

Same to you unless you can assure me na binoto nila siya by that 6mos thing we could assume all we want. At the end of the day we can disagree but dapat wlang bastusan ng ibang tao, dyan hindi umuunlad pilipinas