The Football Thread

[pedro sampras]

i think that the spanish la liga season drained out too much from him.. he needs his rest.. anyway, there are a lot of other forwards for brazil available like adriano et al..

 

ronaldo is ronaldo, brazil still needs him in the squad..

yup wala talaga sya sa form..

di ko lang sure if we can consider him too old.. sa observation ko, football players reach their peak form between 28-32.. observation ko lang..

in other news, i was able to watch the england vs usa international friendly.. obviously, sven goran eriksson is experimenting with his lineup.. i still see the #1 spot as england's weakest link.. david james, paul robinson???

 

sven started with this lineup 4-4-2 :

david james

g. johnson, sol campbell ©, wes brown, a. cole

joe cole, k. richardson, keras, j. pennant

alan smith, andy johnson

i think that come world cup time this is the ideal lineup for england

 

david james/paul robinson

 

g. neville, rio ferdinand, john terry, ashely cole

 

steven gerrard, frank lampard, david beckham ©, joe cole

 

michael owen, wayne rooney

what's yours?

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I think d best partner for john terry in defense is sol campbell.he plays better than rio.rio is crap. look what happened to man u.they got nothing. though rio is considered as the worlds most expensive defender , lately hes form is not at par with terry or campbell if the latter is not injured

[bubuy]

eRon and pedro_sampras.. nice views on the centre back slot for england.. rio and sol have played together so much, they have a better understanding of each other at the heart of the defence, which is impt in international play.. but u can't deny the fact that john terry is so hot right now, anyone of those two could be bumped out of the starting XI..

 

if sven goes with campbell-terry combo at centre back, they will lose a lot of pace.. rio came out from an 8 month ban, so it is natural that he didnt have a good season for ManU.. so the dilemma now for sven, campbell coming back from injury, rio coming back from a long layoff and terry the hottest commodity at centre right now..

 

anyway, there is still one more season to fight for slots.. im pretty sure these 3 will make it.. and given their quality, what the heck, i'd choose 2 of these 3 with my eyes closed.. :thumbsupsmiley:

 

 

alternatives for joe cole? sven is trying hard to convince paul scholes to return to international competition.. and when you analyze that, it means that england ain't that deep in the midfield.. even the forward slot aint that deep.. only rooney and owen are consistent threats in front of goal..

[bubuy]

but, the world cup being in germany, im pretty sure the england squad would want to lift the cup in front of the german fans..

[howard_the_duck]

england? Team USA na lang ako lol

[dj_flip03]

To all AC Milan Fans:

 

AC Milan has just signed PSV Eindhoven's Johann Vogel. This guy is one good midfielder. What's up with PSV?! Nagtatapon sila ng mga magagaling na players.

 

They're also planning on signing Udinese Calcio's Marek Jankulovski and Parma FC's striker, Alberto Gilardino - this guy can be a good backup for Andriy.

 

Confirmed na ba na babalik sa Chelsea si Crespo? Kasi ang alam ko loaned lang sya eh.

 

 

 

Para naman sa mga ManU fans:

 

They've signed up Fullham's GK Edwin Van der Sar. I think he's pretty old for the team.

Edited June 5, 2005 by dj_flip03

[damaso]

alternatives for joe cole? sven is trying hard to convince paul scholes to return to international competition.. and when you analyze that, it means that england ain't that deep in the midfield.. even the forward slot aint that deep.. only rooney and owen are consistent threats in front of goal..

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the left midfield role has always been a problem for england. last world cup, they used emile heskey (a natural forward)! owen hargreaves has been disappointing. and paul scholes is really much more of a central player. barring convincing ryan giggs to defect from wales to england, joe cole is the best bet at left mid. he has been improving under mourinho's guidance.

 

oh, and buti na lang sven stopped using beckham in the middle. he is best suited at the right wing.

[teio]

the prob with hargreaves is that has not played in england for a long time... and correct me if i'm wrong... hargreaves has yet to play in the epl... so he is not familiar with how his teammates play...

 

on joe cole... he has vastly improved under mourinho... even if the latter is a jerk... the english offense can be devastating with david beckham playing on the right wing and cole on the left wing... add steven gerrard in the central defensive mid and frank lampard as center mid...

Edited June 7, 2005 by the_electrified_one

[damaso]

who needs ronaldo?

 

 

RIO DE JANEIRO, June 6 (Reuters) - Brazil flourished in Ronaldo's absence and produced one of their best performances since the last World Cup in their 4-1 defeat of Paraguay in Porto Alegre.

 

Striker Robinho subjected the visitors to his full repertoire of tricks, Ronaldinho and Kaka were in inspired form and midfielder Ze Roberto produced arguably his best display in a Brazil shirt in Sunday's World Cup qualifier.

 

Brazil, with Adriano and Robinho in attack, passed the ball around more freely and created more chances than they do when Ronaldo is on the field.

 

Santos forward Robinho showed all the charisma which has brought attention from top European clubs.

 

He won the second of Brazil's penalties with one of his famous stepovers and capped his performance with the fourth goal.

 

"It's good to play with intelligent players such as Ronaldinho and Kaka," he said.

[damaso]

who are the favorites to win the confederations cup? ilang nations ba sasali dito? anong format ng tournament na to? group stage then elims or draw then elims lang kagad? sorry kasi i'm not that familiar with this tournament..pano din pla magqualify sa tournament na to?..

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the confederations cup is a fifa INVITATIONAL tournament to its 6 federations: UEFA (europe), CONCACAF (north/central america and caribbean), CONMEBOL (south america), OCF (oceania and australia), CAF (africa) and AFC (asia).

 

ideally, the champions of each federation (ex. greece are the euro champions) are invited plus the defending world cup champion and the host country. but sometimes the zone champions decline the invitation and they are replaced by another country from the same zone.

 

france has won the last 2 cups, but the field was not that strong.

 

this year:

 

group a: argentina, australia, germany (host), tunisia

group b: brazil, greece, japan, mexico

[turi_guilliano]

To all AC Milan Fans: 

 

AC Milan has just signed PSV Eindhoven's Johann Vogel.  This guy is one good midfielder.  What's up with PSV?! Nagtatapon sila ng mga magagaling na players.

 

They're also planning on signing Udinese Calcio's Marek Jankulovski and Parma FC's striker, Alberto Gilardino - this guy can be a good backup for Andriy.

 

Confirmed na ba na babalik sa Chelsea si Crespo?  Kasi ang alam ko loaned lang sya eh.

Para naman sa mga ManU fans:

 

They've signed up Fullham's GK Edwin Van der Sar.  I think he's pretty old for the team.

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yup psv's vogel is good, and psv isnt throwing its talents away, malaki lang oppurtunities sa labas ng netherlands.... u have to understand that the dutch league doesnt have the same audience and class as the other leagues like serie a and the spanish la liga... all good dutch players start in the dutch national league and breakthorugh either with psv, ajax or team orange... then they get signed by much larger teams like manchester united (van nistelrooy), ac milan (jaap stam&clarence seedorf) or arsenal (bergkamp), and yes even van der sar.... and the list goes on...

 

what you should look out for are ajax's sneijder and van der vaart and psv's robben and heitinga...

very young but very promising...

[bubuy]

To all AC Milan Fans: 

 

AC Milan has just signed PSV Eindhoven's Johann Vogel.  This guy is one good midfielder.  What's up with PSV?! Nagtatapon sila ng mga magagaling na players.

 

They're also planning on signing Udinese Calcio's Marek Jankulovski and Parma FC's striker, Alberto Gilardino - this guy can be a good backup for Andriy.

 

Confirmed na ba na babalik sa Chelsea si Crespo?  Kasi ang alam ko loaned lang sya eh.

Para naman sa mga ManU fans:

 

They've signed up Fullham's GK Edwin Van der Sar.  I think he's pretty old for the team.

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djflip i didnt know u were into football.. :thumbsupsmiley:

 

ganun talaga pag di gaano kalaki club mo, big euro clubs will gobble up your players.. heck sometimes nasa contract pa ng player to have a big-club escape clause..

 

as for hernan crespo, i think chelsea will let go of him.. i notice that argentinian players are not suited for the english style of play.. remeber juan sebastien veron?

 

as for GKs, IMHO, the older they get the wiser they become.. GKs have longer careers (on average and observation only ) than other field players, sometimes they play till they are 36.. and Van der Sar's return to a big club like ManU, might just be what the doctor ordered for his career.. btw, is he still the dutch #1?

[bubuy]

who needs ronaldo?

RIO DE JANEIRO, June 6 (Reuters) - Brazil flourished in Ronaldo's absence and produced one of their best performances since the last World Cup in their 4-1 defeat of Paraguay in Porto Alegre.

 

Striker Robinho subjected the visitors to his full repertoire of tricks, Ronaldinho and Kaka were in inspired form and midfielder Ze Roberto produced arguably his best display in a Brazil shirt in Sunday's World Cup qualifier.

 

Brazil, with Adriano and Robinho in attack, passed the ball around more freely and created more chances than they do when Ronaldo is on the field.

 

Santos forward Robinho showed all the charisma which has brought attention from top European clubs.

 

He won the second of Brazil's penalties with one of his famous stepovers and capped his performance with the fourth goal.

 

"It's good to play with intelligent players such as Ronaldinho and Kaka," he said.

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i was able to catch that match on tv.. indeed brazil's lineup is formidable with or without ronaldo.. the paraguayan's didnt have much to offer against brazil's vaunted attack.. brazil could have very well sent their under-21 team and still win..

[_eRon_]

pedro sampras think d best partner for john terry in defense is sol campbell.he plays better than rio.rio is crap. look what happened to man u.they got nothing. though rio is considered as the worlds most expensive defender , lately hes form is not at par with terry or campbell if the latter is not injured 

 

 

it's unfair to say that rio is crap because he was suspended for 8months, it's hard to cope after a long lay-off, not to say that campbell is not deserving for the starting spot..

 

bubuy  Jun 4 2005, 11:21 PM 

if sven goes with campbell-terry combo at centre back, they will lose a lot of pace.. rio came out from an 8 month ban, so it is natural that he didnt have a good season for ManU.. so the dilemma now for sven, campbell coming back from injury, rio coming back from a long layoff and terry the hottest commodity at centre right now..

 

sven erikkson was the first to say that he will not play the 3 center backs together, as bubuy said it would be better to pair ferdinand & terry because they produce more pace for the squad..

 

i think van der sar is a good signing as the new #1 gk in manU, he is fairly consistent, has the height & is well experience due to being the #1 gk of holland..

 

brazil has dept in their squad, eventhough they didn't have ronaldo, they have adriano & rubinho..

 

good signing by ac milan, i hear they now have another talented midfielder to compliment pirlo, gattuso, seidorf, ambrosini, serginho & the versatile kaka..

 

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[damaso]

i was able to catch that match on tv.. indeed brazil's lineup is formidable with or without ronaldo.. the paraguayan's didnt have much to offer against brazil's vaunted attack.. brazil could have very well sent their under-21 team and still win..

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paraguay actually has a very good team. brazil just made them look bad. but paraguay is currently 4th in south america, on course to make it to the world cup finals. on their previous matches with the region's big 3: they drew with brazil and argentina, and beat uruguay 4-1!

 

striker roque santa cruz has been performing very well for german champions bayern munich.

[damaso]

djflip i didnt know u were into football..  :thumbsupsmiley:

 

ganun talaga pag di gaano kalaki club mo, big euro clubs will gobble up your players.. heck sometimes nasa contract pa ng player to have a big-club escape clause..

 

as for hernan crespo, i think chelsea will let go of him.. i notice that argentinian players are not suited for the english style of play.. remeber juan sebastien veron?

 

as for GKs, IMHO, the older they get the wiser they become.. GKs have longer careers (on average and observation only ) than other field players, sometimes they play till they are 36.. and Van der Sar's return to a big club like ManU, might just be what the doctor ordered for his career.. btw, is he still the dutch #1?

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its just not the players. sometimes its the clubs themselves who sell players to make money. selling one player could make a team's bottom line from red to black. most football teams need to sell to avoid bankruptcy.

 

yeah, not a lot of south american players have been successful in the english league. one exception has been man utd's gabriel heinze. the argentinian was arguably man utd's best player this season.

 

and yes, van der sar is still the dutch #1. over 90 caps na ata...