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From: Louie Aguinaldo

Date: Oct 11, 2006 10:33 PM

Subject: [phphoto] DO NOT SIGN!!! Photographers! Time to stand up for our

rights!!!

To: phphoto@yahoogroups .com

 

DO NOT SIGN!!! Photographers! Time to stand up for your rights!

 

Both international and Philippine laws recognize the photographer' s

right over their images.

If a magazine or newspaper commissions a photographer for a shoot,

the copyright belongs to the photographer. The only rights the

magazine or newspaper has is the right to publish it for one issue

only.

Even if the magazine pays for the film or cd and owns the material

or media they do not own the copyright of the image. They can only

use the image once. That is the law!

 

It is a law that photographer' s should appreciate and fight for.

 

Within the past few days, a major local publishing company that

carries several of the top glossy magazines has issued a contract

which they are requiring photographers to sign if they are to shoot

with them.

 

The stipulations of the contract are terribly one-sided and are

designed to rob photographers of ALL their rights to their images.

It is said that no one will be allowed to shoot if they do not sign

the contract.

 

They are requiring the photographers

 

- To relinquish all moral rights over the authorship of their

images, here or anywhere in the world – that means that you do not

even have the right to claim that the images are yours, you do not

have the right to claim that you took the photos

- To relinquish ALL rights and copyrights over the images –

which means you don't own them anymore, you have no say in how they

will be used, etc –

- Need to get permission to use for our own portfolios - you

cannot include the images in your portfolio or website without their

permission

 

All of these are unacceptable!

It is not only degrading, it is insulting!

The local publications severely underpay photographers as it is.

Now this publishing company is treating the works of photographers

as cheap merchandise.

 

What are the repercussions of this agreement if photographers sign

1. The publishing company pays photographers pathetic editorial

fees yet they can sell the images to advertisers at advertising

rates. The photographers lose out big time.

2. They can even market packages to advertisers that will

include photography. So instead of advertisers hiring photographers

for their print campaigns, they can get a cheaper package through

the publishing company. The publishing company can offer a package

wherein they include our photographs which they get for barya!

3. If the publishing company chooses they can build their own

stock agency and sell our images with no benefit to us. Mind you

that stock agencies all over the world act as agents for

photographers. They market the images, and if sold, they earn a

commission and the photographers earn. But with this contract, if

the publishing company chooses to sell our images, all the profits

are theirs because they fully own the images.

4. The publishing company can commission us under the guise of

editorial photography but may intend to use it for any commercial

venture anywhere in the world. For all you know they are paying you

P2000 for a shoot of 5 layouts and then they are selling to someone

else for P50,000.

5. You do not own the images. Imagine that you cannot even

claim that the images are yours. Imagine that you cannot even

include it in your portfolio unless they grant permission.

 

Is this in anyway acceptable?

The answer is obviously a big resounding NO!

To agree to such a thing is allowing ourselves to be slapped in the

face.

It is an insult!

It is an utter disrespect for photographers.

It is bad enough that the fees for editorial photographers are

pathetically low, now they want to rob us of everything we have. For

a photographer… your images are part of your soul. They are trying

to buy our soul for loose change.

Is that all we are worth?

 

Many professional editorial photographers are outraged at this and

our initial stand is DON'T SIGN.

 

So if you are an editorial photographer, don't sign. Once you do, as

a photographer, you have sold your soul and have betrayed the

industry.

 

If we allow this to happen, it will be a precedent, and soon

everyone else will follow suit. We cannot let this happen.

 

What's the plan of action?

 

First, DO NOT SIGN. Don't be afraid even if they threaten that they

will not hire you. Many of the top and most sought after editorial

photographers have stated they will not sign and are planning to

meet soon to take a stand.

If nobody signs, the publishing company will have to rethink their

contract.

Remember the images are yours! It is you that should make the

demands on them! If you sign, then you are forever a slave to them.

There is strength in numbers. If the majority stands up to this,

this injustice cannot prevail.

 

Second, if you are an editorial photographer, please send me your

contact info so that we can contact you for the plans of action. A

major meeting will soon be called to discuss our stand. You can

email your contact info to louiea@iname. com or

louieaguinaldo@ yahoo.com

 

DO NOT SIGN!!! If you have any respect for photography, DO NOT

SIGN!!!

[pnoize2k4]

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I'll have to agree with this. A lot of editorials actually give out pathetic fees and often times take a while to receive it. I was once a victim of this. I was told that it was for an article for a certain glossy, only to find out later that it was an ad layout.

[pnoize2k4]

Damn. Just got online earlier this evening. The storm hit me hard. Phone lines down for 2 weeks.

 

Anyhoo, great shots people. Very big improvement noziuk.

 

Pnoize, im sure you've shot medium format before...

 

Im looking at several medium format film cameras and so far the top of my list is the Hasselblad 500 c/m

 

any suggestions?

 

Hassies, Bronicas or Mamiya. These are the top 3 brands for Medium Format. It's gotten difficult to shoot 120s here in cebu since there are hardly any films available and labs develop negatives only. Then there the problem of getting the chemicals for my own lab work. *sigh*

 

Try getting a Hassie with a 135 adapter.

[Nooblet]

Theres no problem with film and processing here in manila.

Sir Bengy Toda at studio 58 keeps regular stock of film and he processes really well

 

I was at hidalgo looking for second hand medium formats and I found a Mamiya RZ67 PRO... I might settle for that. This is my first all manual medium format camera

[mig 22]

Wow naman, adik.

 

I passed by at hidalgo last week and damn, isang kalye na puro camera at photo labs ang maikikita mo. It was my first time and I am overwhelmed sa dami ng cameras! May Yashica, may seagull, nikon, pentax, etc. ang dami, gusto ko pa naman makabili ng TLR pero for display purposes lang at di nila binebenta, bummer.

[doubletap]

I wannabe...

 

My PBase

[pnoize2k4]

Theres no problem with film and processing here in manila.

Sir Bengy Toda at studio 58 keeps regular stock of film and he processes really well

 

I was at hidalgo looking for second hand medium formats and I found a Mamiya RZ67 PRO... I might settle for that. This is my first all manual medium format camera

 

how much would a Mamiya cost nowadays?

 

time to visit hidalgo. it's been a while since I was last went there

[pnoize2k4]

Wow naman, adik.

 

I passed by at hidalgo last week and damn, isang kalye na puro camera at photo labs ang maikikita mo. It was my first time and I am overwhelmed sa dami ng cameras! May Yashica, may seagull, nikon, pentax, etc. ang dami, gusto ko pa naman makabili ng TLR pero for display purposes lang at di nila binebenta, bummer.

 

I've got a working TLR, a Rolleicord III. Had to search the net for a manual on how to use it. Medyo nakakadisorient at first pero you get used to it. I like the DOF on the Rolleicord and I like how it teaches you to be patient to get the right shot. Dito ko rin nagamit ng husto yung lightmeter ko.

[Nooblet]

pnoize2k4,

 

Mamiya 2nd hand is about 20k with about 3 lenses and a prism finder.

9k for a tripod

9k for a meter and Im set.

 

any other suggestions?

 

A Hassie 503CM is about 90k for the kit second hand.

[pnoize2k4]

pnoize2k4,

 

Mamiya 2nd hand is about 20k with about 3 lenses and a prism finder.

9k for a tripod

9k for a meter and Im set.

 

any other suggestions?

 

A Hassie 503CM is about 90k for the kit second hand.

 

 

While I will always drool for a Hassie, practicality tells me to go with the Mamiya. Since it already goes with 3 lenses. 90k is a bit too much for me for a film camera. With all that was offered to you, 38K and your set!

[Nooblet]

pnoize,

 

Someone beat me to that particular mamiya

 

There is another one going for about 19k. 90mm f3.5 and a 6x4.5 (YUCK) back. (would have wanted the original 6x7) its a RB67 Pro-SD and it looks good too.

 

I found also a Hasselblad 500 c/m for 45k. It comes with a 6x6 back and an 80mm f2.8 Zeiss 2x coat

 

What would you get? :-s

[mig 22]

I've got a working TLR, a Rolleicord III. Had to search the net for a manual on how to use it. Medyo nakakadisorient at first pero you get used to it. I like the DOF on the Rolleicord and I like how it teaches you to be patient to get the right shot. Dito ko rin nagamit ng husto yung lightmeter ko.

 

Interesting. I am shopping for some cameras in mind. I have my eye on an LCA and a Cannon D400 and I now also beggining to look elsewhere for a TLR. One thing that caught my eye on ebay was a Lubitel TLR pretty interesting device and when I had a chance to purchase one I will include also a light meter. Yay! More learning for me.

[Nooblet]

Mig22,

 

Get a Mamiya C33

[pnoize2k4]

pnoize,

 

Someone beat me to that particular mamiya

 

There is another one going for about 19k. 90mm f3.5 and a 6x4.5 (YUCK) back. (would have wanted the original 6x7) its a RB67 Pro-SD and it looks good too.

 

I found also a Hasselblad 500 c/m for 45k. It comes with a 6x6 back and an 80mm f2.8 Zeiss 2x coat

 

What would you get? :-s

 

at that price, i'd go for the hassie!

[Nooblet]

Going back this friday