The Specialist Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 hours ago, taong grasa said: How low can ACEN go? Only God knows. Quote Link to comment
taong grasa Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 below 7K today?????? hmmmm 2 Quote Link to comment
Harding Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 35 minutes ago, ichiromiyata98 said: In the 1st place, the problem goes to the $ACEN holders that has a high average price than the current price. Because they are already loosing money (this is a fact, check your port), if the stock holder has a low average price (gains were already lowering). "310.98M (value traded), no volume????" The only answer is Sellers is in control. This is a downtrending stock, and being distributed. Aral ka sir, para alam mo ichura nung nagcocorrect, vs, dinidistribute, vs inaaccumulate. Good morning! galing mo sir. yumaman ka na ba sa stocks kaya maangas ka? Quote Link to comment
The Specialist Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Harding said: galing mo sir. yumaman ka na ba sa stocks kaya maangas ka? nahurt ka sa sinabe ko sir? san banda dun? That is nothing personal. Kita naman sa chart yung sinabe ko. O wala ka charting tool?? Sige let's give a benefit of a doubt. na alam mo ichura ng inaaccumulate, nagcocorrect at dinidistribute. Can you post and differentiate each? Ikaw nga ung bigay ng bigay ng stock reco na binubuhusan ako pa maangas. Quote Link to comment
Harding Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, ichiromiyata98 said: nahurt ka sa sinabe ko sir? san banda dun? That is nothing personal. Kita naman sa chart yung sinabe ko. O wala ka charting tool?? Sige let's give a benefit of a doubt. na alam mo ichura ng inaaccumulate, nagcocorrect at dinidistribute. Can you post and differentiate each? Ikaw nga ung bigay ng bigay ng stock reco na binubuhusan ako pa maangas. sabi mo kasi mag aral pa ako. successful traders nakikita yan sa laki ng kinita sa market. kaya tinanong kita kung yumaman ka sa stock market. paki sagot mo para maniwala kami sa iyo haha. kung tama ang sinasabi mong trading system dapat multi millionaire ka ng kinita Quote Link to comment
The Specialist Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, Harding said: sabi mo kasi mag aral pa ako. successful traders nakikita yan sa laki ng kinita sa market. kaya tinanong kita kung yumaman ka sa stock market. paki sagot mo para maniwala kami sa iyo haha. kung tama ang sinasabi mong trading system dapat multi millionaire ka ng kinita Para ka palang bata ano. Nahurt ka sa "mag-aral". Anong sama non? To tell you honestly, lahat ng successful traders nag-aaral and walang ego. Mababasa mo yan sa traders na pinost ko before. Napansin lang ung mali mo (iyak ka na agad, di ka nagkakamali or di mo kaya i-accept?). Binubuhusan naman talaga $ACEN. hahahaha Quote Link to comment
Harding Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, ichiromiyata98 said: Para ka palang bata ano. Nahurt ka sa "mag-aral". Anong sama non? To tell you honestly, lahat ng successful traders nag-aaral and walang ego. Mababasa mo yan sa traders na pinost ko before. Napansin lang ung mali mo (iyak ka na agad, di ka nagkakamali or di mo kaya i-accept?). Binubuhusan naman talaga $ACEN. hahahaha haha tinanong ka lang naman kung kumita ka na ng milyon sa stocks para maniwala kami sa iyo. bakit ayaw mo sagutin? 1 Quote Link to comment
sirheinrichcu Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 best time to be greedy now best time to buy 2 1 Quote Link to comment
grozny Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 What a day. hahaha. Madugo pero madami nagbounce sa run-off. 2 Quote Link to comment
rodpau Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 @Harding and @ichiromiyata98. May punto naman kayong dalawa pero sana wag na umabot sa asaran. We think both of you are well-rouunded pag dating sa stock trading/investing (basing from your posts) and we (me and specially members who are interested in stocks) appreciate and learn from pointers coming from you guys. So cool lang tayo.. and back to regular programming. 2 Quote Link to comment
Batang hampas lupa Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Sa mga lodi natin dito sa thread na matagal na sa stock market..... Ok po ba I follow ko ang sikat YouTuber at guru na si sir marvin germo? Salamat po sa mga sasagot. 1 Quote Link to comment
Andres Bonifacio Jr. Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Batang hampas lupa said: Sa mga lodi natin dito sa thread na matagal na sa stock market..... Ok po ba I follow ko ang sikat YouTuber at guru na si sir marvin germo? Salamat po sa mga sasagot. Lods finafollow ko rin yan si Marvin Germo. Hindi lang siya sa stocks. Pero pass na ako pag crypto na topic nya. 2 Quote Link to comment
The Specialist Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) On 1/7/2022 at 12:59 PM, Harding said: haha tinanong ka lang naman kung kumita ka na ng milyon sa stocks para maniwala kami sa iyo. bakit ayaw mo sagutin? Yes, my profit for consectutive 3 years is beyond 1M. I managed a different fund for each Markets. Teka relay ko sau, since napakainterested mo sa part na to. 7 digit fund for PSE (now already 8 digit fund/including profits last year), for US market fund (since I was just starting on it, 30k USD). Last 2020, ventured and managed a 7 digit managed (php) fund in cryptocurrency (just captured the bull run). Ano okay ka na???? I was a multi millionaire, before I entered the stock market, results of savings, investments, and hard work. Studied the fundamentals of the market for a long period of time. And still proud of being a student of the market. Meaning to say, my bias is trash compare with the market prices. So, ganto lang po, kasimple, I am not bullish, or bearish on any names. There are only names that prices go higher, lower, or sideways. And I strictly follow my trade plan. If it is invalidated, cut!!! Then I try my best to sell on strength. Do take note, I am not present in the market everytime. I am just in it, when there are waves(odds in my favor), or the getting is much more higher than my risk. And I don't ever, Average down.. I only add on positions that is currently up (meaning I have a cushioned). Ngaun pakita mo nga ung ichura nung inaaccumulate vs nagcocorrect vs dinidistribute na stock @Harding??Ung isang binili mo, $GREEN kamo diba? Yung cut ka? alam mo bang downtrend yun, illiquid name, at conso? nainip ka noh? hahaha. Attached ko dito. Simple analogy on averaging down by William Oneil: For example, you are a seller of a dress. Merun kang 10 kulay pula, 10 dilaw at 10 asul. After a week, naubos ang kulay asul (so mabenta), yung dilaw, 5 nilang, yung pula 10 pa. Ngaun, ang tanong ano yung irereorder mo sa supplier kulay asul na mabenta, dilaw na nabili kalahati, o pula na hindi man lang naibenta miski isa? Yung pinakalogical answer is irereplenish ung kulay asul diba? kasi mabenta, ung dilaw retain (di pa ubos e, pero may bumili). Yung pula, since di mabenta (put in on sale). Same scenario sa mall boutique diba? Baket kaya??? Kasi, para maubos ung pula, ibenta mo ng mura, natalo ka ng konti pero atleast wala ka ng burden na merun ka pang maraming stock nun. Tas bili ka nung mabenta. Dun ka bumawi sa kita. Same thing on a stock, if bumili ka ng stock $ABC, at mabilis naubos and tumaas ung price vs your bought price (demand is in here) same thing as dress na kulay blue, if bumili ka naman ng stock $DEF (medyo tumaas ung price vs your bought price or it didnt break your cut point (trade invalidation point) then by all means hold it. Now, if bumili ka ng stock $GHI, then pagbiili mo imbis na tumaas bumaba, and much more nahit ung cut point mo (so invalidated na ung trade idea, since bias is aangat dapat diba for long only market), so same ito sa dress na kulay pula. baket ka bibili pa? eh in the 1st place, mali ka na nga diba? tas dadagdagan mo pa. Pag ito ginawa mo, dun sa tindihan kanina. parang ang ginawa mo, eh dinagdagan mo ung kulay pula na dress na hindi mabili bili, than replinish blue dress that is in demand. I hope nagets, thats the best thing I can do. On topic: Guys, you don't really have to start with a huge amount on this. In the markets, "the more you think of money, the faster you loose it". Because, it will put a lot of pressure to you and your trading. You should study, have a risk first before profits mindset, and have a strategy. Strategy in terms of how to determine the market breadth, determine trends, cycles and how it works, Buy/sell strategy and mental control. Para merun kayong sinusunod na system or guidelines. If you are not patient on this. Magiging clueless lang kayo regarding what to exactly do. Same reason, why people are asking "Sir okay pa ba bilin si $abc?) Medyo marami talaga kelangan aralin if you want to be consistently profitable. You can't learn any skill and be good at it overnight. But when you have acquired it, aside from the money follows, its all worth it. That is the same reason why I consider this to be a tough profession. I never mentioned that I am much more greater than anyone of you, and learn from me. Instead, what I told you is, learned from the great traders/investors who have done it (backread nalang kayo, for that info). Google them up, hindi sila sumikat because they can just do it 1 time or twice in their careers. They are famous for being consistently profitable. Update: For me, phil market is a stock pickers market nowadays. And why, TNX (10 year treasury note is breaking out currently, which is bad for equities). Fed faster tightening, Inflation comes next. Then aside from it, the move from psei were done, gains need to be consume first before prices go up and down depending on the market. Market breadth: Excluding REIT'S and illiquid names (below 7M value traded). Liquidity is relative to your portfolio size by the way. above all 21/50/200 = 8 names above 50 and 200 =13 above 200 = 25 names (not even 10% of total stock names) *************** So what this entails. The ice, is melting beneath your feet. That explains the sell off ***************** Edited January 8, 2022 by ichiromiyata98 Quote Link to comment
The Specialist Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 21 hours ago, rodpau said: @Harding and @ichiromiyata98. May punto naman kayong dalawa pero sana wag na umabot sa asaran. We think both of you are well-rouunded pag dating sa stock trading/investing (basing from your posts) and we (me and specially members who are interested in stocks) appreciate and learn from pointers coming from you guys. So cool lang tayo.. and back to regular programming. Cool lang ako bro. Ewan ko nga ba dyan, kung baket nainis. natawa tuloy ako. Agree, back to regular programming. Have a nice day! 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Harding Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/8/2022 at 12:52 PM, ichiromiyata98 said: Yes, my profit for consectutive 3 years is beyond 1M. I managed a different fund for each Markets. Teka relay ko sau, since napakainterested mo sa part na to. 7 digit fund for PSE (now already 8 digit fund/including profits last year), for US market fund (since I was just starting on it, 30k USD). Last 2020, ventured and managed a 7 digit managed (php) fund in cryptocurrency (just captured the bull run). Ano okay ka na???? I was a multi millionaire, before I entered the stock market, results of savings, investments, and hard work. Studied the fundamentals of the market for a long period of time. And still proud of being a student of the market. Meaning to say, my bias is trash compare with the market prices. So, ganto lang po, kasimple, I am not bullish, or bearish on any names. There are only names that prices go higher, lower, or sideways. And I strictly follow my trade plan. If it is invalidated, cut!!! Then I try my best to sell on strength. Do take note, I am not present in the market everytime. I am just in it, when there are waves(odds in my favor), or the getting is much more higher than my risk. And I don't ever, Average down.. I only add on positions that is currently up (meaning I have a cushioned). Ngaun pakita mo nga ung ichura nung inaaccumulate vs nagcocorrect vs dinidistribute na stock @Harding??Ung isang binili mo, $GREEN kamo diba? Yung cut ka? alam mo bang downtrend yun, illiquid name, at conso? nainip ka noh? hahaha. Attached ko dito. Simple analogy on averaging down by William Oneil: For example, you are a seller of a dress. Merun kang 10 kulay pula, 10 dilaw at 10 asul. After a week, naubos ang kulay asul (so mabenta), yung dilaw, 5 nilang, yung pula 10 pa. Ngaun, ang tanong ano yung irereorder mo sa supplier kulay asul na mabenta, dilaw na nabili kalahati, o pula na hindi man lang naibenta miski isa? Yung pinakalogical answer is irereplenish ung kulay asul diba? kasi mabenta, ung dilaw retain (di pa ubos e, pero may bumili). Yung pula, since di mabenta (put in on sale). Same scenario sa mall boutique diba? Baket kaya??? Kasi, para maubos ung pula, ibenta mo ng mura, natalo ka ng konti pero atleast wala ka ng burden na merun ka pang maraming stock nun. Tas bili ka nung mabenta. Dun ka bumawi sa kita. Same thing on a stock, if bumili ka ng stock $ABC, at mabilis naubos and tumaas ung price vs your bought price (demand is in here) same thing as dress na kulay blue, if bumili ka naman ng stock $DEF (medyo tumaas ung price vs your bought price or it didnt break your cut point (trade invalidation point) then by all means hold it. Now, if bumili ka ng stock $GHI, then pagbiili mo imbis na tumaas bumaba, and much more nahit ung cut point mo (so invalidated na ung trade idea, since bias is aangat dapat diba for long only market), so same ito sa dress na kulay pula. baket ka bibili pa? eh in the 1st place, mali ka na nga diba? tas dadagdagan mo pa. Pag ito ginawa mo, dun sa tindihan kanina. parang ang ginawa mo, eh dinagdagan mo ung kulay pula na dress na hindi mabili bili, than replinish blue dress that is in demand. I hope nagets, thats the best thing I can do. On topic: Guys, you don't really have to start with a huge amount on this. In the markets, "the more you think of money, the faster you loose it". Because, it will put a lot of pressure to you and your trading. You should study, have a risk first before profits mindset, and have a strategy. Strategy in terms of how to determine the market breadth, determine trends, cycles and how it works, Buy/sell strategy and mental control. Para merun kayong sinusunod na system or guidelines. If you are not patient on this. Magiging clueless lang kayo regarding what to exactly do. Same reason, why people are asking "Sir okay pa ba bilin si $abc?) Medyo marami talaga kelangan aralin if you want to be consistently profitable. You can't learn any skill and be good at it overnight. But when you have acquired it, aside from the money follows, its all worth it. That is the same reason why I consider this to be a tough profession. I never mentioned that I am much more greater than anyone of you, and learn from me. Instead, what I told you is, learned from the great traders/investors who have done it (backread nalang kayo, for that info). Google them up, hindi sila sumikat because they can just do it 1 time or twice in their careers. They are famous for being consistently profitable. Update: For me, phil market is a stock pickers market nowadays. And why, TNX (10 year treasury note is breaking out currently, which is bad for equities). Fed faster tightening, Inflation comes next. Then aside from it, the move from psei were done, gains need to be consume first before prices go up and down depending on the market. Market breadth: Excluding REIT'S and illiquid names (below 7M value traded). Liquidity is relative to your portfolio size by the way. above all 21/50/200 = 8 names above 50 and 200 =13 above 200 = 25 names (not even 10% of total stock names) *************** So what this entails. The ice, is melting beneath your feet. That explains the sell off ***************** good for you Bro. i do not want to argue with you since we all want to learn here. i do not want to boast what I earned in the market .Good for you if you manage different funds and earned multi million amount that will establish your credibility. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Batang hampas lupa Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Sa bagong record cases ng covid-19 kanina. Tiyak na lagapak na naman ang PSE bukas.... Quote Link to comment
Harding Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 4:07 PM, rodpau said: @Harding and @ichiromiyata98. May punto naman kayong dalawa pero sana wag na umabot sa asaran. We think both of you are well-rouunded pag dating sa stock trading/investing (basing from your posts) and we (me and specially members who are interested in stocks) appreciate and learn from pointers coming from you guys. So cool lang tayo.. and back to regular programming. i must admit, I am not a professional stock trader as some other here . i do not manage funds. i invested my own money when there are opportunities just like the US financial crisis where i made a huge profit. i come in and out of the market. this is not my source of living. I have businesses of imports of electronics and apartment buildings and condo rentals enough to supports me. stock market is only my way of breaking my monotonous life lol 2 Quote Link to comment
Andres Bonifacio Jr. Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 20 hours ago, Batang hampas lupa said: Sa bagong record cases ng covid-19 kanina. Tiyak na lagapak na naman ang PSE bukas.... May bagong record cases ng covid kanina. Pero green, bakit kaya? baka bukas biglang bagsak..( matutuwa yung ibang nagaabang ng sale hehe) 1 Quote Link to comment
moan Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Andres Bonifacio Jr. said: May bagong record cases ng covid kanina. Pero green, bakit kaya? baka bukas biglang bagsak..( matutuwa yung ibang nagaabang ng sale hehe) baka dead cat bounce ito Quote Link to comment
Batang hampas lupa Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, moan said: baka dead cat bounce Mukhang immune narin yata ang PSE sa omicron virus.... Let's see bukas if ma sustain niya ng bullish candle. 1 Quote Link to comment
yutsugi678 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) On 1/6/2022 at 6:31 AM, Boooya said: Sa DITO holders, tinake niyo ba yung SRO offering? Goods kaya na i-take yun, or possible mag abot ang price niya sa SRO price? Tinatake ko ung sakin. Pero small amount lng din kasi ung shares ko. Hoping na makakarecover sila eventually. Edited January 11, 2022 by yutsugi678 Quote Link to comment
yutsugi678 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 4:07 PM, rodpau said: @Harding and @ichiromiyata98. May punto naman kayong dalawa pero sana wag na umabot sa asaran. We think both of you are well-rouunded pag dating sa stock trading/investing (basing from your posts) and we (me and specially members who are interested in stocks) appreciate and learn from pointers coming from you guys. So cool lang tayo.. and back to regular programming. Yup, cool lng po tayo. @ichiromiyata98 thank you for your shared knowledge but please tone down a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment
Harding Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 I am not a professional trader but only a mere investor. i act based on my knowledge and intiution. we have a down market, looking for long term bargain stocks Quote Link to comment
Batang hampas lupa Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Si dito mukhang binomba na ng mga insti.... Congrats sa mga nakabili below 5 pesos... 1 Quote Link to comment
Harding Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 acen di pa ako tapos mamili pinataas agad Quote Link to comment
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