the messiah Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 i would like to learn to speak chinese but i dont know which one to study and what are the differences between like mandarin, cantonese, and putonghua. any help thanks! BLCU in Beijing or SJTU in Shanghai marami din mga pinoys dyan sa skul na yan Quote Link to comment
boy_tusok Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 If you're planning to study language, I suggest going to Beijing. It's not quite as exciting as Shanghai but the cost of living there is alot lower than in Shanghai. There's also a growing nightlife there in Beijing, and surprisingly if you go to the right bars you can make alot of foreign aquaintances. Some bars cater to mostly the foreign crowd, but they may be a bit more expensive. Anyway about your question, basically Mandarin and putonhua are one and the same. You see, Manadarin is the name for the one of the chinese dialects. Much like Catonese, which the dialect of the people living in Guangtong province and most of HK, or Fuchien which is the dialect of the people living in the Fuchien province and the local speak of the Filipino-chinese. Putonghua is not a dialect, but directly translates as "the common-language" or the national language of china which is mandarin. Hope this helps, albiet a bit lenghty :mtc: BLCU in Beijing or SJTU in Shanghai marami din mga pinoys dyan sa skul na yan I'm in Canada right now and Chinese is the biggest and fastest growing cultural minority here(besides the anglophones). I'm doing this more to enhance my business skills, most likely i'll be dealing with Chinese people. besides China is fast becoming an economic superpower, so learning its language I believe is a must. Even my instructor who is white wants to learn chinese. Actually the school where I'm attending right now is offering Mandarin. Thanks for the help. :cool: Quote Link to comment
Guest airmax Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 ung classmate ko ng hs nagtuturo ng english sa china Quote Link to comment
raven chaste Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 pasingit po ha...ill try to add guangzhou, dongguan and shenzhen...these cities are now being fascinating. Becoming more progressive and more advance than manila. there are subways and trains already in shenzhen and guangzhou. buildings are now taller in these cities; made already of glass and steel, not like bricks way back 10 yrs ago. Tips: buying goods like shirts, watches, wallets and accessories Lo Wu in shen zhen would be the place to shop. although not the original product, you could buy a class A imitation for a very reasonable price. If you are buying the original one, try to shop at the licensed outlet, but still cheaper compared to HK. in guangzhou there are universities also that offers mandarin courses. it is advisable to know this langugae as it is China's national language. and in dongguan, (where im currently staying) there are already cozy bars and resto, i mean night life is becoming alive here..bars and resto to be named: rhine castle, black cat, china groove, hollywood baby and soon to open...gecko! hope this contribution would be helpful if you plan to travel here in southern china.... Quote Link to comment
johnlove Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I like to work in China but the problem is the low rate salary there .. coz everybody knows the law of supply and demand ... most of my chinese counterpart receives only around $300 per month ... but if there will be an offer .. then why not ... It depends: Last year a mandarine speaking aquaintance of mine was recruited to work in a beauty slalon in Shanghai. Her monthly salary - about 25,000 if converted to pesos. Quote Link to comment
the messiah Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 I'm in Canada right now and Chinese is the biggest and fastest growing cultural minority here(besides the anglophones). I'm doing this more to enhance my business skills, most likely i'll be dealing with Chinese people. besides China is fast becoming an economic superpower, so learning its language I believe is a must. Even my instructor who is white wants to learn chinese. Actually the school where I'm attending right now is offering Mandarin. Thanks for the help. :cool: yep, that was wat my Canadian Classmate had in mind, he's a lawyer and his clients are Overseas Chinese living in Canada, he figured if he didnt learn mandarin, sooner or later someone wud take away his clients hehe Quote Link to comment
the messiah Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 pasingit po ha...ill try to add guangzhou, dongguan and shenzhen...these cities are now being fascinating. Becoming more progressive and more advance than manila. there are subways and trains already in shenzhen and guangzhou. buildings are now taller in these cities; made already of glass and steel, not like bricks way back 10 yrs ago. Tips: buying goods like shirts, watches, wallets and accessories Lo Wu in shen zhen would be the place to shop. although not the original product, you could buy a class A imitation for a very reasonable price. If you are buying the original one, try to shop at the licensed outlet, but still cheaper compared to HK. in guangzhou there are universities also that offers mandarin courses. it is advisable to know this langugae as it is China's national language. and in dongguan, (where im currently staying) there are already cozy bars and resto, i mean night life is becoming alive here..bars and resto to be named: rhine castle, black cat, china groove, hollywood baby and soon to open...gecko! hope this contribution would be helpful if you plan to travel here in southern china.... lots of triads especially in shenzhen, yung mga petty criminals eh pag nahuli minsan on the spot na tinutuluyan, laki kasi ng population eh, justice communist style hehe Quote Link to comment
GMPaul Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 ive'd been it ping di,.,.mannn sobrang provice ung lugar mga bro,.,.,.garbehhh,.,.ang layuu !!! the people are quite okay.,,. since hindi kme magkaintindihan pareparehas,,.,.,.hehehe howbout hore houses guys any experiences there<>,.,.,.???ak meron.,..,.,,.,. Quote Link to comment
kaplogan Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 read muna bago mag reply, i am reacting to jiggers hornys post wherein he is comparing his local salary to the salary of his foreign counterpart in China which is 300USD compare to HK and Singapore mababa yun mas mahal pa din kasi ang cost of living dun, pero 23yrs old lang yung friend ko for a 24yrs old malaki na yun compare sa kinikita nya dito manila, r u earning more than her? if u are den gud for u, if u are not then u get my point again mababa pa rin yung strating salary ng friend mo ...take note your comparing a 300USD salary of Chinese, it means locally hired sya pero kung from other country to work in China it might be more than that depende sa nature ng trabaho... Job salary in Shanghai compared to other City in China hindi pa rin nagkakalayo...I'm working in Dongguan right now...I can tell you the salary you mentioned is way too low compared to salary that our company gives to Filipno... tapos HP pa multinational company...then yung cost of living sa Shanghai mas mataas sa Dongguan that means yung net income mas malaki kung nasa other province ka ng China... It all boils down to nature ng trabaho, job position and Financial capability ng Company So why not try Singapore you can get atleast 15KRMB for an Engr level I dont know sa ibang field. Quote Link to comment
the messiah Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 (edited) again mababa pa rin yung strating salary ng friend mo ...take note your comparing a 300USD salary of Chinese, it means locally hired sya pero kung from other country to work in China it might be more than that depende sa nature ng trabaho... Job salary in Shanghai compared to other City in China hindi pa rin nagkakalayo...I'm working in Dongguan right now...I can tell you the salary you mentioned is way too low compared to salary that our company gives to Filipno... tapos HP pa multinational company...then yung cost of living sa Shanghai mas mataas sa Dongguan that means yung net income mas malaki kung nasa other province ka ng China... It all boils down to nature ng trabaho, job position and Financial capability ng Company So why not try Singapore you can get atleast 15KRMB for an Engr level I dont know sa ibang field. wrong agen, wen i say locally ang kinocompare ko ay salary in manila (locally) and in shanghai, salary ng isang nag trtrabaho sa HP sa Pinas n HP sa shanghai, ndi kasali ang ibang region, back read ka nalang muna bago ka humirit specifically yung post ni jigger horny magkanu ba sweldo mo sa dongguan? ipagmalaki mo naman samin para mapatunayan na maliit nga yung 11kRMB nakinikita ng friend ko, oo nga mababa yan compared sa singapore at hong kong eh ang problema kaya sinabi kong mataas dahil ang comparison eh manila at shanghai Edited November 1, 2006 by Aldrich_Baccarat Quote Link to comment
kaplogan Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I like to work in China but the problem is the low rate salary there .. coz everybody knows the law of supply and demand ... most of my chinese counterpart receives only around $300 per month ... but if there will be an offer .. then why not ... it dependes wat part of china, if itsbeijing or shanghai mataas ang pay, lalo na pag highly skilled, my friend use to work for accentur, phil, den nag apply sya sa HP, shanghai her starting pay was 11k RMB + 2k RMB allowance (multiply mo by 8 para convert to peso) lalo na sa shanghai sobrang mahal ng bilihin compared dito, ang movie is 100 RMB or 800pesos, ang drink sa bar ay 50 RMB n up.. i know cos i studied der hehehe wrong agen, wen i say locally ang kinocompare ko ay salary in manila (locally) and in shanghai, salary ng isang nag trtrabaho sa HP sa Pinas n HP sa shanghai, ndi kasali ang ibang region, back read ka nalang muna bago ka humirit specifically yung post ni jigger horny magkanu ba sweldo mo sa dongguan? ipagmalaki mo naman samin para mapatunayan na maliit nga yung 11kRMB nakinikita ng friend ko, oo nga mababa yan compared sa singapore at hong kong eh ang problema kaya sinabi kong mataas dahil ang comparison eh manila at shanghai I'm not reacting to Jigger horny's post but to your post instead...salary in Phil compared to sa ibans bansa given na yon most of the countries around the world mas mataas ang pay kesa sa Pinas. May reaction was to your statement saying that 'it dependes wat part of china, if its beijing or shanghai mataas ang pay".makakakuha pa yung friend mo ng mas mataas don... If your asking for my salary... di ko na kailangan patunayan...you can check JODSDB.com nandun yung salary trend... Quote Link to comment
heavygatin_but_cutie Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 yung mga old people i think wala masyadong manners n etiquette, yung tipong sisingitan ka sa pila, agawan ka ng pwesto, pero yung mga younger generation ok na, deyr starting to learn good manners n proper etiquette hi, wat part of shanghai ka nag stay??? i think medyo expensive ang prices in shanghai compared here in manila, especially imported goods well... that you have to face when you are in china. we people think that they lack manners and etiquette. they don't mean to harm you but that is how they were brought up.......no sense of sensitivity...coz most of them... if not all...were born and raised as single child..so individualistic ang thinking...this is mine....i should be the first... things like that.. even the new generation..but some are slowly being educated coz of the intent of China to really open to the world and for the fact that foreign visitors and investments are coming in. i agree with aldrich its true last month ago we went to china prticularly shanghai and beijing. it was about my turn sa c.r ng bgla siningitan ako ng isang old lady hahah unexpected kasi sa pinas wala naman ganunan kht na matanda na atleast mag excuse man lng right? anyways inisip ko nlng maybe ihingihi na sya. o well... iv been to xiamen and some province part of china i might say shanghai n beijing is the most beautiful n modern part of china. the roads, builing, houses even they way people dress. its a bz airport too... plenty tourist and businessman going in and out like mga germans, americans yun iba ang gagaling mag mandarin hay.... grabe nakakahya mas mgaling pa sila sakin. regarding the thread : LABOR COST is much cheaper kasi sa china compare in the phil. kaya ang daming mga factory dun. OIShi co. is also in shanghai i think. i can relate... i had experience last June in Pudong, Shanghai...I was on my way to CARREFOUR to buy stuff for the appartment of my friend...darn this old lady who was also crossing the street...she pushed me literally pushed me with an umbrella pa ah....darn talaga... she didnt apologize ha... ganun din sa subway...as in...they will just push you .. they will not care if you are a lady or a guy...all they know is they have to move and get in.... that is part of how they were brought up eh..part of culture... i can say .. if you want architectural things... go to Shanghai.. the best in modern architecture next is Beijing... but if you want natural scenery preserved over centuries..go to SuZhou and Hangzhou...the best... Quote Link to comment
the messiah Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I'm not reacting to Jigger horny's post but to your post instead...salary in Phil compared to sa ibans bansa given na yon most of the countries around the world mas mataas ang pay kesa sa Pinas. May reaction was to your statement saying that 'it dependes wat part of china, if its beijing or shanghai mataas ang pay".makakakuha pa yung friend mo ng mas mataas don... If your asking for my salary... di ko na kailangan patunayan...you can check JODSDB.com nandun yung salary trend... my post was based on jigger hornys post, sinasabi ko sa kanya na ndi mas mababa ang salary ng local counterpart nya at depende sa trabaho yun, kaya ko nilagay yung 11k RMB para patunayan sa kanya na mas malaki ang sweldo sa shanghai compared sa pinas. oo ur reacting to my post pero ndi mo binasa ng mabuti na my post was a reaction on jiggers honry's post kaya ganun ang labas w/ regards to salary in other part of shanghai, possible mas mababa ang sweldo ng friend ko sa ibang pinoy dyan sa dongguan, pero ndi ako naniniwala na majority ng nasa dongguan eh mas mataas ang sahod sa shanghai... eh anu ba ang meron dyan sa dongguan at mas mataas ang sahod compare sa shanghai, shanghai ang financial district ng China, common sense lang dahil mas mataas ang cost of living sa shanghai eh dapat mas mataas ang salary ng mga tao dyan, ang salary ng tao eh base ng mga multinational company sa cost of living ng isang lugar, kaya taon taon may survey silang ginagawa sa world's cosliest city, at pag sinabi kong mataas am talking of the gross amount kung ayaw mong patunayan hwag mong patunayan, hwag mo nalang din paki alaman post ko dahil wala akong paki at oras mag chek sa jobsdb.com Quote Link to comment
kaplogan Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 my post was based on jigger hornys post, sinasabi ko sa kanya na ndi mas mababa ang salary ng local counterpart nya at depende sa trabaho yun, kaya ko nilagay yung 11k RMB para patunayan sa kanya na mas malaki ang sweldo sa shanghai compared sa pinas. oo ur reacting to my post pero ndi mo binasa ng mabuti na my post was a reaction on jiggers honry's post kaya ganun ang labas w/ regards to salary in other part of shanghai, possible mas mababa ang sweldo ng friend ko sa ibang pinoy dyan sa dongguan, pero ndi ako naniniwala na majority ng nasa dongguan eh mas mataas ang sahod sa shanghai... eh anu ba ang meron dyan sa dongguan at mas mataas ang sahod compare sa shanghai, shanghai ang financial district ng China, common sense lang dahil mas mataas ang cost of living sa shanghai eh dapat mas mataas ang salary ng mga tao dyan, ang salary ng tao eh base ng mga multinational company sa cost of living ng isang lugar, kaya taon taon may survey silang ginagawa sa world's cosliest city, at pag sinabi kong mataas am talking of the gross amount kung ayaw mong patunayan hwag mong patunayan, hwag mo nalang din paki alaman post ko dahil wala akong paki at oras mag chek sa jobsdb.com relaks ka lang bro wag ka masyado mainit... this is a forum right? lahat tayo pwedeng magbigay ng opinion maaring magree or you may not...pero pigilan mo ang tao na wag magreact sa post mo...I dont think its right... Given the fact that you are reacting to others post you should accept that somebody will do the same, positve man or negative...kung ayaw mo na may magreact sa post mo, you should be the one to stop posting... Now going back to our discussion "regards to salary in other part of shanghai, possible mas mababa ang sweldo ng friend ko sa ibang pinoy dyan sa dongguan, pero ndi ako naniniwala na majority ng nasa dongguan eh mas mataas ang sahod sa shanghai" di ko naman sinabi na lahat ng pinoy or majority ng pinoy sa Dongguan mas mataas ang sahod sa Shanghai...ang sinabi ko is mababa ang 11K basic + 2K Allowance... Quote Link to comment
the messiah Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 relaks ka lang bro wag ka masyado mainit... this is a forum right? lahat tayo pwedeng magbigay ng opinion maaring magree or you may not...pero pigilan mo ang tao na wag magreact sa post mo...I dont think its right... Given the fact that you are reacting to others post you should accept that somebody will do the same, positve man or negative...kung ayaw mo na may magreact sa post mo, you should be the one to stop posting... look whose talking, alam mo palang forum to pag tinanong ka sumagot ka, kung ayaw mo sabihin mo, ndi yung papahanap mo pa sa jobsdb, piliosopong tasyo ka ba?? problema ndi positive or negative ang post mo eh, yung post mo humirit ka nalang ng basta basta at ndi mo inintindi ang post ko, wala akong pake kung mag post ng negative ang mga tao sa post ko basta asa lugar, ndi lang naman ikaw ang unang nag reply or react sa post ko dito, relaks ka din Now going back to our discussion "regards to salary in other part of shanghai, possible mas mababa ang sweldo ng friend ko sa ibang pinoy dyan sa dongguan, pero ndi ako naniniwala na majority ng nasa dongguan eh mas mataas ang sahod sa shanghai" di ko naman sinabi na lahat ng pinoy or majority ng pinoy sa Dongguan mas mataas ang sahod sa Shanghai...ang sinabi ko is mababa ang 11K basic + 2K Allowance... now going back to the discussion eh anu ang mataas? cge nga, sweldo mo ayaw mo sabihin eto ang post ko gawin kong simple para maintindihan mo manila salary compared to shanghai salary mas mataas sa shanghai salary in other provinces in China compared to shanghai mas mataas sa shanghai labas sa usapan ang Singapore na pinagpipilitan mo at Hong Kong dahil mainland china lang ang usapan, ine example ko lang ang 11+2k para patunayin na mas mataas ang swledo ng shanghai compared manila, at ndi para ipagmalaki na mataas na ang 11+2kRMB in world standard, naintindihan mo na? Quote Link to comment
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