tom_babauta Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Manny Pacquiao coach Alex Ariza: Why I punched out Michael Koncz He couldn’t run and he couldn’t hide.So, when Manny Pacquiao strength and conditioning guru Alex Ariza finally exploded in the “Collision at Cooyesan (Hotel)” in Baguio, the controversial Canadian showed his true colors.Koncz didn’t lay down. He stayed down, taking about five solid punches to the face from Ariza, a 35-year-old usually even-tempered native of Bogota, Colombia.Koncz did not even try to defend himself from the sudden physical attack.I spoke at length with Ariza, who is prepping for his fifth major bout working alongside Pacman and Coach Freddie Roach, by telephone. Ariza was standing in the hotel lobby Friday night.Ariza explained to me why he felt compelled to punch Koncz out.“We were upstairs in the living room of Manny’s suite,” Ariza said of the Friday morning explosion. “He snapped at me, he got sarcastic and I did something not in my character.“I told him, ‘Get up out of the chair.’ He didn’t get up and I punched him. Three of Manny’s bodyguards pulled me off him.“You can’t rationalize with him, you can’t be diplomatic,” Ariza said. “I’m here to do my job, to be there for Manny 24/7. Koncz really has no role except for errand boy.”Ariza said he was angered when he learned that, despite being told personally by Pacquiao that he wanted him to work the corner on fight night against Miguel Cotto (Nov. 14) as a replacement for ex-Roach assistant and former heavyweight champion Michael Moorer, that Koncz was blocking the move.Ariza detailed the background to the fistic episode.“On Thursday, I met with Manny and with (aide) Joe Ramos. They were going over tickets and credentials for the Cotto fight. Manny said he wanted me to work his corner. This is something Manny decided so I was, like, that’s cool.“That’s a decision that only Manny ultimately makes.”According to Ariza -- who got his start in boxing working for weight challenged Diego “Chico” Corrales -- sometime later in the day Koncz went to head trainer Roach and informed him that he would be in the corner and Ariza would not.”Fast forward to Friday morning and Ariza asked Koncz to explain the seeming contradiction of Bossman Manny’s direct marching orders.Koncz got red faced and snapped, “None of your f***ing business!”That’s when Ariza rained a five-punch combination on Koncz’s head.“I hit Koncz and he started screaming. That’s when the bodyguards moved in and grabbed me, pulled me off him.”Is the Manny Pacquiao camp riddled with dissent, a house divided which cannot stand much longer?Based on what I have learned, I’d say Team Pacquiao is united, united against the machinations and bad attitude and conduct of divisive agent and manager wanna-be Koncz.More to follow from the Explosive Manny Pacquiao camp. Quote Link to comment
tom_babauta Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Isolated: No room at Manny Pacquiao inn for Freddie Roach When Manny Pacquiao’s widely revered Coach Freddie Roach got to the Pinoy Idol’s training camp in Baguio, his arch rival Michael Koncz had a little surprise for him.Most of the Pacman crew, including the fighter himself, were checked into the Cooyesan Hotel.But, according to Pacman strength and conditioning guru Alex Ariza, there was no room at the inn for Roach.Instead of bugging out and possibly upsetting the boxer, Roach accepted accommodations at the Manor Hotel.“Koncz did that, he did that on purpose,” Ariza told me Friday by telephone from the Cooyesan Hotel.Ariza physically attacked Koncz in Pacquiao’s suite when he discovered that the furtive Canadian agent—labeled only an “errand boy” by Ariza—was trying to change Pacman’s mind and have him replaced in the corner on fight night with, guess who, Koncz.Ariza said shifting Roach to the other hotel and keeping him at a physical distance from Manny was a typical Koncz move.“It’s all divide and conquer with this guy,” the 35 year old native of Colombia told me.Ariza said Roach was initially upset to discover he had no room reserved at the Cooyesan after the long flight from Los Angeles to Manila and then on to Baguio.“Freddie was like, ‘You’ve got to be fugging kidding me, I got no room here?’“I went to the guy at the front desk and he was apologetic but he told me there was nothing he could because Koncz made the arrangements and that was it.“It was a typical Koncz move. You just can’t reason with this guy because he’s always going behind your back.”Coach Freddie Roach was relegated to the Manor Hotel at Camp John Hay, BaguioLike many others who have observed Koncz, Ariza feels that the agent has some mental problems in dealing with other people.Roach’s boxing credentials are beyond question. The ex-fighter is considered the premier trainer of his generation and is widely in demand.For his own part, Ariza’s resume is strong in boxing and with MMA athletes. He’s worked for Diego Corrales, Amir Khan, Angel Manfredy among others.Ariza is known as a “Roach guy” and he works seamlessly with the head trainer.Ariza said his punch out of Koncz was a one off, that he usually gets along with everyone.“I’ve never had a fight with any athlete, with any manager, with any trainer, with anybody but this guy is always trying to alienate people.”More from the Explosive Manny Pacquiao Camp to follow… Quote Link to comment
tom_babauta Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Manny Pacquiao shoots hoops as entourage plays punch out His strength, conditioning and nutrition guru Alex Ariza just jumped on his agent and go-fer Michael Koncz.Manny Pacquiao’s beefy bodyguards had to pull an enraged Ariza off the older man in the living room of the boxer’s palatial suite at the Cooyesan Hotel in Baguio.Ariza rained punches in the Canadian’s grill when Koncz told Coach Alex ”it’s none of your fugging business” in reply to a question about why the backstabbing and occasionally front stabbing agent was trying to persuade Megamanny to put him in his corner on fight night and remove the Freddie Roach assistant.Ariza, 35, a young man with a solid background working with top level boxers and MMA athletes, told me Koncz has a history of messing him about.“For the Ricky Hatton bout in May, Koncz made sure I didn’t get the wristband necessary to get past security into Manny’s locker room at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.“I had to go to (Top Rank president) Todd duBoef to get a wristband. Those are the kind of petty power games that Koncz likes to play.”So what effect does all this swirling dissension have on Pacman? Not much, it seems although sources other than Ariza told me that Manny sat Koncz down and told him in no uncertain terms to keep his nose out of boxing issues.“Manny was quite firm with Michael this time,” the source said. “Manny told him to only do what Manny tells him to do. But Michael seems to ignore these warnings because he then goes out and tries to sabotage everyone else. His real hatred is for Coach Roach as everyone knows.”I tried to get in touch with Pacman Friday night but a man at the front desk informed the fighter and his Pacquiao Posse were unavailable because they were shooting hoops at the hotel’s basketball court.His strength coach jumps on his agent.And Manny works on his jump shots. Quote Link to comment
tom_babauta Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Manny Pacquiao go-fer Koncz: 'Like Hitler without charm, brains' There seems to be no end to people connected to Manny Pacquiao who complain about the machinations of furtive Canadian agent Michael Koncz.Koncz tossed gasoline on the already burning feud between himself and Pacman trainer Coach Freddie Roach when he uttered the famous line, “Roach is just the trainer.”Now I’ve revealed how, according to strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza, Koncz deliberately failed to reserve a room for Roach at the Cooyesan Hotel in Baguio where everyone except for the trainer is staying.Ariza, of course, has had all he can stomach of Koncz trying to block like the Steelers offensive line and exploded on the agent’s head with four or five rapid fire punches in Pacman’s plush suite on Thursday. Beefy bodyguards saved the older man from a real beat down by grabbing Ariza to stop the assault.Now a well-placed American source who is privy to the swirling soap opera which surrounds Megamanny tells me, on the condition of anonymity, that Koncz’s power grabs have spun completely out of control.“Michael is like Hitler but without the charm and intelligence,” the source said. “His power trip has become so pervasive that he has now irritated Manny’s wife, Jinkee. He’s got Jinkee tripping out and that cannot help Koncz in the long run.“Michael wants Manny to dump his whole team, including his staff in Los Angeles, because he wants to create his own Team Pacquiao, a situation where everyone answers to him.”For the record, my repeated attempts to reach Koncz and get his side of the overall story and his side on the attack by Ariza have gone for naught.I don’t want anyone saying that Tom Babauta operates under “I distort and I decide.”You know my number, Agent Koncz, 917 853 4484.“White Gorilla” operators are standing by. Quote Link to comment
game_boy Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 what are the odds now of pacman/cotto fight? Quote Link to comment
tom_babauta Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Bombs over Baguio: Pacquiao agent Michael Koncz denies TKO Michael Koncz, center of extreme controversy in Manny Pacquiao’s circle and reportedly punched out by conditioning coach Alex Ariza in the Pinoy Idol’s Baguio hotel suite Thursday speaks to Examiner.com and to Boxingconfidential…Finally, Michael Koncz is punching back.I spoke at length with the native of Alberta, Canada, by telephone from Pacman’s quarters at the Cooyesan Hotel Friday evening (Filipino time) and, while he won’t concede that a furious Ariza clocked him with any punches, Koncz did answer any and all questions I posed.I give Koncz full credit for, one, picking up the phone to speak to a guy (that’s me) who just ran an anonymous quote from somebody in Manny’s professional sphere who compares the agent to Adolph Hitler and, two, for not terming any inquiry to be off limits.As much as possible, I want to restrict this report, in all fairness to the much maligned Koncz, to his answers without my usual knife twisting sarcasm and/or humor.I've played Kick The Koncz long enough, now I'm giving him an open forum.Mr. Koncz, please take the witness stand and swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but so help you, Manny Pacquiao.My first question was whether he lost the opening and final round to Ariza, at 35 much younger than the mid or late 40ish Koncz. Did the judges call it 10-8, Ariza? DUST UP WITH ARIZA: “Oh, yeah, I’m in the hospital right now with 45 stitches. Look, I have no problems with Alex, I have no problems with Freddie (Roach). You can say there was an incident but I won’t say it. You can believe what Alex is telling you if you want to. Look, Freddie and I had a good discussion just today and we agree that training camp here in Baguio is going great. Both Freddie and I agreed. We both said we wish the fight against (Miguel) Cotto was next week because Manny is ready.” WHY PACMAN RETAINS HIM: “If I am such a bad guy, then why does Manny keep me? He is my employer, not Bob Arum. Manny talks about all this (rumors, gossip, innuendo), Manny laughs about. He says he doesn’t read it or listen to it and that we shouldn’t. Manny is a smart guy. I know that if you show Manny respect and show him loyalty, he will return it 10 fold.” ON CRITICISM OF HIS HANDLING OF BOXERS OTHER THAN PACMAN: “I run Manny Pacquiao Promotions but Manny is the boss. No boxer I have ever worked with has ever made any allegation about me. I’ve been able to work with Rodel Mayol and Bernabe Concepcion. I’ve been able to get them world title shots, Bernabe is getting a second world title chance and Rodel is getting his fourth. A lot of fighters only get one opportunity for a world title. There must be reason no boxer have publicly complained about me.” ON HOW DISTRACTIONS DON’T FAZE PACMAN: “Politics, lawsuits, whatever, Manny is very unique in that he can multi-task and none of this affects him. I don’t know he does it but he does. I know that it would beyond me to do the same. As far as what the media writes or says about me, I don’t really care. This so called ‘incident,’ Manny is still laughing about it. “ ON HOW JOSE LUIS CASTILLO IS WORKING OUT AS SPARRING PARTNER:“Castillo has gone seven rounds with Manny. Freddie is very happy with him. I know there was lot of hoopla on this I never bring in sparring partners without first consulting Manny and then with Freddie. Jose is getting older, we know that. We didn’t bring him over here to work eight to 10 rounds sparring each day. But, if he gives three or four good rounds, we’re happy. Freddie put Jose in the ring immediately with Manny. Freddie said, ‘Let’s see what he’s got. We know he’s not duplicative of Cotto, that he’s not as strong and as quick as Cotto but he is providing good rounds.” Quote Link to comment
tom_babauta Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Manny Pacquiao agent Michael Koncz: No hate for Freddie Roach Before I let Michael Koncz explain and vent a bit more, let me say that anyone who resorts to death threats and other stupid acts concerning Manny Pacquiao’s self-chosen right hand man is not a Pacman fan.Anyone who does this, even anonymously on the Internet, is an idiot.Settle down, class. We’re talking about boxing. We’re talking about an athlete.I certainly don’t encourage let alone condone such mindless activity.Koncz is a human being. He’s got children. To hear him tell it, he does what Boss Manny tells him to do.“I don’t worry about that stuff,” Koncz told me Friday. “I only worry about getting old, being in a wheelchair and my kids having to take care of me. I don’t worry about other things.”Here’s the second and final part of Agent Koncz unplugged.Let me remind the witness he remains under the sacred Examiner.com and Boxingconfidential oath.ON BEEFS WITH COACH ROACH: “No matter what you hear, there are no problems between Freddie and me. We had a good discussion earlier today. We agree this is Manny’s best training camp to date. Freddie, he’s Irish and we’ve had conflicts at times but it doesn’t mean we have to hate each other. My loyalty is to Manny. If Manny is happy, then I am happy. He’s my current employer. He pays me, no one else does. I have conflicts with (Bob) Arum at times also. I work only for Manny.”ON RUMORS HE’S IRKED WIFE JINKEE: “Totally false. I totally respect Manny’s wife. I also handle some business affairs for her.”ON ARIZA’S ASSERTION THAT HE PURPOSELY DID NOT RESERVE A ROOM AT MANNY’S HOTEL FOR COACH ROACH: “That is not true, either. Freddie was going to stay in a mansion that the governor over here was providing. We didn’t have the keys when Freddie arrived. Freddie went over to the Manor Lodge at Camp John Hay, a lovely resort that looks like it could be one in Colorado. It’s a super hotel. Bob Arum also stayed there when he came to Baguio.”ON MANNY SHOOTING HOOPS: “This is Freddie’s rule. Freddie lets Manny play basketball up until four weeks before the fight. He played today (Friday) in the gym here and he will play Saturday but that’s it. He plays competitively, pickup games with his friends. It relaxes Manny but we know it’s a two-edged sword. We know he could get hurt doing it. But I can tell you right now Manny is very relaxed, very happy.”ON THE BAGUIO OVER MEXICO TRAINING SITE DISPUTE: “Look, that was Manny’s decision. Freddie wanted Mexico. I went to Cancun and then Puerto Vallarta to check both places out. Manny sent Buboy (Fernandez) to Baguio. Manny didn’t want Mexico so we came to Baguio.”ON HIS PRE TEAM PACQUIAO BACKGROUND: “I come from Alberta, a province in Canada. You ask too many questions. My personal life is not relevant.”The witness, Agent 008 Michael Koncz, is now excused. Quote Link to comment
tom_babauta Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Roach predicts KO victory by Pacquiao!!! by 8th or 9th RD Three-time Trainer of the Year Freddie Roach here Friday predicted Filipino boxing sensation Manny Pacquiao will win his seventh title when he collides with World Boxing Organization (WBO) welterweight champion Miguel Cotto next month.Pacquiao and Cotto will be testing each other’s mettle in a blockbuster title bout on November 14 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.“Manny has been doing excellent work in his training here. We are confident we could finish the fight early to prevent Cotto from getting his second wind.” Roach stressed.In his latest sparring session late Thursday afternoon, the 30-year-old world champion floored undefeated superwelterweight contender Shawn Porter in the second round of their four-round blistering encounter with a solid left straight to the latter’s jaw.After knocking down Porter, Pacquiao also virtually mauled two-time world lightweight champion Jose Luis Castillo of Mexico as he displayed awesome speed and power.Pacquiao is on his fourth week of rigid training in this mountain resort city in preparation for the Cotto fight. Team Pacquiao will be breaking camp here on October 23 in order to catch the late evening flight for Los Angeles the following day where he will be entering the Wild Card gym on October 26 for the final stage of his training.“Manny is nearing his peak form. We are now regulating his training regimen so that he could maintain his excellent performance in the ring until the fight. We already got our game going with the help of his supportive sparring partners,” Roach added.While admitting that Typhoon Pepeng had a slight effect on the pound for pound king’s roadwork, Roach claimed they are now taking advantage of the good weather to get back lost time although the gym work is way ahead of schedule.Earlier, Roach predicted Pacquiao will knock out Cotto in either the eighth or ninth round but said the champion’s performance in recent days shows that there will be an early knockout victory for his favorite ward.Since Cotto is known to be able to get his second wind in the later part of his previous fights, the American trainer claimed Pacquiao will be working aggressively in the early rounds in order to catch the champion off balanced to be assured of a victory. Quote Link to comment
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tom_babauta Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 WHY ARUM IS CONDITIONING US That MP-PBF WONT HAPPEN Pacquiao's fight contract with Cotto has a clause of an immediate rematch if Pacquiao loses.If Cotto loses then there wont be a rematch.Arum will earn millions of dollars more with a Pacquiao-Cotto trilogy.So Pacquiao has to lose first in November.Thats why Arum at first wasnt concerned with Cotto risking his title to Pacquiaonot giving importance to the record-breaking record no. of titles Manny can getwith a new title belt.Pacquiao-Mayweather is a 50-50 split pot money and Floyd insisting he gets the bigger cut and Arum dont want more headaches in the negotiation for he is old.Arum is all about money, you see.Michael Konzc is his inside man inside Team Pacquiao.And Judas Iscariot comes to mind.Ever wondered why Bob Arum is releasing statements that Pacquiao-PBF wont happen?Pacquiao-Cotto rematches is lot lot more money and an easier task for Bob to hatch. Quote Link to comment
tom_babauta Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 KONZC MISSION: Arum Wants MP To Lose For TRILOGY Bob Arum will earn so much money with the Pacquiao vs Cotto match. Arum and Manny wont earn much with the Mayweather fight for theyll just split the earnings. Bob Arum may have assigned Konzc to create distractions and divisiveness within Team Pacquiaoto give Cotto a chance to win the fight and start a trilogy between the two. So far, the plan is succeeding: 1. Konzc was able to convince Pacquiao to do his training in Baguio wherein Konzc can easilydo his 'mission' and manipulate things.2. Konzc was able to convince Pacquiao to bring in Castillo as sparring partner to distractRoach concentration in preparing Manny. Roach is kind enough not to make any negativecomments on Castillo's presence in camp so as not to further distract Manny.3. Konzc is succeeding in further distracting Roach's concentration by making divisive statements like "Roach is just a trainer" with the media.4. Konzc is succeeding to distract too Manny's conditioning coach Alex Ariza by lettinghim known that he suggested to Manny to fire him out. What will be Konzc's next move? Quote Link to comment
tom_babauta Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Pacman floors sparmate twice Manny Pacquiao flooring Shawn Porter twice in sparring last Thursday doesn’t mean much for his chief trainer, Freddie Roach.“Nothing,” said the three-time Trainer of the Year over the phone yesterday from Baguio City, right after another heavy, non-sparring day at the Shape Up Gym.“It only means that he’s ready for the fight and that he’s doing very well,” Roach told The STAR, saying that Porter, the undefeated 21-year-old junior middleweight was floored twice by Pacquiao.Roach said Pacquiao sparred four rounds with Porter, and caught the big and burly native of Ohio, a 2007 National Golden Gloves champion, with two powerful lefts in the third round of their skirmish.“Yes, Shawn went down twice but he came back very well and caught Manny with a good hook. He came back very well,” said Roach, adding that Pacquiao also sparred four rounds with Jose Luis Castillo.An Internet report said Castillo, the former WBC lightweight champion who came very close to beating Floyd Mayweather Jr. in 2002, had blood on his nose after sparring with the hard-hitting Filipino.As of Thursday, Pacquiao has logged a total of 46 rounds of sparring, and as the rounds increase to 10 and 12 over the next few days, he should have close to 150 rounds on the book before training ends.Roach said Pacquiao has decided to cut short his stay in Baguio by a day. He said they should be in Manila on the evening of Thursday, instead of Friday, and train two days in a local gym before flying to Los Angeles on Saturday evening.“It’s a little hectic coming down so we pushed the date a day ahead,” said Roach, referring to the terrible road conditions from Baguio all the way down to Manila due to the recent spate of typhoons to hit the country.Pacquiao will hold sparring today against Porter and Castillo, who seemed to have impressed Roach with his style.“I like his style because he likes to come in and tends to lean forward,” said Roach, close to saying that Castillo, who had two memorable fights with the late Diego Corrales, fights like Cotto.A few days ago, there was a thread at Pacand, the highly popular Pacquiao website, saying that the Filipino pound-for-pound champion got knocked down in sparring.But Nonoy Neri of Team Pacquiao was quick to brush it aside.“Nothing like that. No knockdowns,” he said.Not until Thursday, when Porter, not Pacquiao, hit the floor. Not once but twice. Quote Link to comment
tom_babauta Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Pacquiao/Mayweather Superfight Depends on Pacquiao/Cotto PPV Numbers Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer told Boxing Scene today that he thinks Mayweather should get the lion's share of the money in any eventual fight with the winner of the Manny Pacquiao/Miguel Cotto fight on November 14. But he did add a caveat to that statement. If Pacquiao vs. Cotto does a million PPV buys or above, then he believes there is reason to consider a 50-50 split. You know what? He's probably right about that, and the upshot is pure financial mathematics - Pac/Cotto does a million or higher, and we fight fans have a shot at seeing the Pacquiao/Mayweather superfight get made. Pac/Cotto falls short of a million buys, and it's never going to happen. My sense is that Pac/Cotto not only needs to make a million buys, it needs to exceed that number. But not by too much. I would say, oh, maybe 1.2 million gets the job done nicely. For the sake of discussion, I'm going to leave aside the possibility that Cotto beats Pacquiao and that we're talking about a Mayweather/Cotto fight on November 14th. The fact of the matter is that no matter what Pac/Cotto does at the box office, if Cotto wins and is in line to fight Mayweather next, it's a much easier negotiation. Cotto is going to get the short money, end of story. Mayweather/Pacquaio is another kettle of moneyfish altogether. As it stands right now, both the Pacquiao and Mayweather camps say that they will not settle for a 50-50 split. Mayweather rests his argument on the fact that he did 2.4 mill against Oscar as opposed to the 1.25 mill that Pac did against Oscar, and he did 900K against Ricky Hatton versus the 850K that Pac did against Hatton. Add to that his recent take of a milly in the Marquez fight, and Money's argument for mo' money definitely seems strong. Pacquaio's team argues that Pac is the ascendant star, a far bigger international celebrity, and the recognized pound-for-pound champion, a mantle that Floyd gave up with his retirement. Myself, I think right now that Floyd's argument is the better one for the bigger money, but I don't think it matters, because I don't see any way in which Pac's team gives an inch on this one, all arguments be damned. The only chance that I think we have of a successful negotiation for Mayweather/Pacquiao is if both sides agree to equal money, and the only chance for that happening is if Pac/Cotto matches Mayweather/Marquez at the box office. These two bouts are an excellent barometer for where the two fighters at right now as PPV draws, leaving aside the x factors of Oscar, Hatton and the varying economic conditions in which their various fights have taken place. Marquez and Cotto are similar opponents, one the hero of Mexico, one the hero of Puerto Rico. I would say that Cotto is a little bigger star in the States but I think Marquez probably offsets that numbers-wise in that there are more Mexican fight fans buying PPV's in the U.S. than there are Puerto Ricans. You could say that there's still a slight advantage to the Pac/Cotto fight as a television draw because the May/Marquez fight was deemed such a mismatch by the boxing press. But I'm really starting to face the facts as far as the influence of the boxing press goes on PPV numbers - nobody pays any attention to us but diehard boxing fans, and they buy every frickin big PPV anyway. I think if Pac/Cotto does a million buys, or even better, around 1.2 mill, it gives us at least a chance that Floyd will accept a 50-50 spilt. It's not a guarantee by any means, but at that point it would seem obvious to all involved that the two principals are neck and neck as PPV draws right now. I have a sense that Pacquiao's side will be willing eventually to take 50-50. It's Floyd I'm worried about. Everything is a pissing contest with him, and to accept even money with Pac would be to accept him as an equal, period, something I don't think Floyd wants to do with anyone right now. He spent his whole career in the shadow of De La Hoya, and harbors great bitterness about that fact dating back to his tenure at Top Rank when Oscar was the Top Dog. Now Floyd feels like <i>he's</i> Oscar and can run the game accordingly. At that propitious moment, to acknowledge another fighter as being of his same stature just does not seem like something he's going to do. Then again, by all accounts he's broke, and Mayweather/Pacquaio has the potential to match, if not exceed, De La Hoya/Mayweather money. Hell, people have speculated that a Pac/Money fight could do three million buys. So if Pac proves that he can really bring it by equalling or surpassing the Floyd/Marquez numbers, the pressure for the fight is going to be so great (assuming Pac beats Cotto, of course) and the argument is going to be so strong for a 50-50 split that I wonder if Floyd won't accept it. He could accept it and still save face by saying somethingl ike this: "All right, clearly I have to beat down this pretender just to prove it to you all again what time it is, so I'm gonna do it, but after I whup this fool… that's it. After that, you wanna fight me, you get 20 percent max, and that's if you're HUGE and I happen to like you." Pac/Cotto does 800K, though, and the jig is up. Floyd will never budge on 60-40 at that point, and while I do think Pac's team would give in to 50-50 evenutally, I can't ever see Arum giving Floyd 60-40 to fight Pacquiao even if Floyd was holding all the cards. Of course, there is another possibility to consider. My observation has been that the buzz for Pac/Cotto is already immense. Maybe my viewpoint is skewed, because I mostly converse with the hardcore fans, and there's no question that those folks are much more amped for Pac/Cotto than they were for May/Marquez. That said, what if Pac/Cotto does 1.5 mill? Or 1.7? Then… then we got problems, people. Quote Link to comment
bubuy Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 ^asan na mga links nyan? ikaw ba nagsulat nyan? Quote Link to comment
federicuger Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 (edited) Tama moderator bubuy, tanggalin mo mga post na yan puro kasinungalingan yan!Tanggalin mo na bubuy, wala kami reklamo, you have the power, use it, use it My prediction on NOV 14, 2009: Manny Pacquiao to knock out Cotto, on the 1st 20 secs of Round 1! Edited October 17, 2009 by federicuger Quote Link to comment
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