PacMan's Corner

[bubuy]

ODLH will never fight Margarito, even in his prime.. but that's for the other thread..

Edited December 10, 2008 by bubuy

[gift_of_game]

all this talk of boxing legacies meaning something is a charade.

[djrs]

stop these accusations of "getting facts straight etc." when all you can really offer is second-hand conjecture.

it sounds flat and lame coming from less credible sources.

 

Getting Facts:? ayan oh basahin mo yung post mo..

 

ano pinanood mo? solar sports? o HBO? ilang beses mo pinanood?

 

i maybe less credible? but you will not accept that i am more credible than those who think ODLH "BENTA" the fight..

 

palibhasa hindi ikaw ang natatamaan ng suntok sa katawan. look what happened to him when Hopkins hit him in the body.. ayun na KO.. hahaha.

 

o eto.. sigurado naman mas credible to..

 

Pacyaw vs. Dela Hoya Punchstat

 

Dela hoya is on Hunt mode pero hindi lahat tumatama dahil si pacyaw is so ELUSIVE..

 

Coach Nacho also told Dela hoya that Pacman is so FAST..

 

THat is Firs Hand!

 

Benta for someone stop trying? LAME.. LAME.. LAME..

 

if you bothered reading what I've been trying to say for the longest, for me at least, benta is when someone stops trying.

this was apparent from round 1---Dela Hoya just wasn't trying out there.

he was moving about gingerly on marionnette legs and this was even before he got smacked in the eye.

I have no idea how Al Mendoza defines benta and frankly, I don't really care

.

 

at any rate, kahit naman magpabugbog si Dela Hoya, 20 mil is still 20 mil.

what's a few bumps and cuts?

it's not everyday that someone gets paid 20 million dollars for a beatdown.

we need to stop romanticizing his "legacy" like it's ours.

 

dahil dyan more than 20MIL pa dapat makukuha nya kung nanalo sya kay pacman..

 

brain damage?

maybe he isn't really looking that far ahead.

money's still money.

 

you get hit in boxing and risk traumatic brain injury and maybe even death?

WOW, isn't that like, the whole freakin' sport right there?!!!?!?

 

you take the good with the bad, the lumpsum with the bumps and bruises.

he's a prize-fighter, that's what he signed up for.

that's just the way it is.

 

medyo may mga contradicting mga sinasabi mo.. hehehehe.

 

you may speak good english pero basura lumalabas sa mga sinasabi mo..

[bubuy]

ano naman basura kung magsabi ng opinyon isang tao? at the end of the day all that you read here are opinions, never will you read a clear cut FACT unless you hear PacMan's or ODLH's voice in your ear..

 

if ODLH pumped in 10M for pacman, we would've won 15.5M.. if he put in 20, he easily won $30M.. the key thing here is keeping an open mind..

 

im not saying na benta. but it is possible. you can never say 100% it wasnt.

Edited December 10, 2008 by bubuy

[gift_of_game]

I defined it for my purpose.

he is "benta" for me `coz he stopped trying.

I'm not asking you or anyone else here to believe me.

I'm not even asking anyone else to subscribe to the way I used "benta" in this context.

just don't hate other people for seeing things differently.

 

ano bang contradicting diyan?

marunong po ba tayo bumasa?

umintindi?

mmmmmmm?

[djrs]

if you bothered reading what I've been trying to say for the longest, for me at least, benta is when someone stops trying.

this was apparent from round 1---Dela Hoya just wasn't trying out there.

he was moving about gingerly on marionnette legs and this was even before he got smacked in the eye.

I have no idea how Al Mendoza defines benta and frankly, I don't really care.

 

at any rate, kahit naman magpabugbog si Dela Hoya, 20 mil is still 20 mil.

what's a few bumps and cuts?

it's not everyday that someone gets paid 20 million dollars for a beatdown.

we need to stop romanticizing his "legacy" like it's ours.

 

Eto pre pareho kayo sinasabi ni AL MENDOZA. hehehehe.

 

December 9, 2008 Tuesday

Pacquiao magaling talaga

Al S, Mendoza

 

Walang duda, napakagaling ni Manny Pacquiao noong Linggo. Dahil diyan, TKO si Oscar De La Hoya sa 8th round.

Pagkatapos ng laban, humakot sina Pacquiao at De La Hoya ng limpak-limpak na salapi.

Pero ‘di tulad ni Pacquiao, si De La Hoya ay nagpabugbog muna bago siya kumulekta ng bulto-bulto.

Sa gulong ng buhay, halos laging masakit ang totoo. At iyan wari ang totoo. Kumain ng suntok si De La Hoya.

Samantalang mabibilang sa daliri ang power punches na pinakawalan ni De La Hoya (anim lang yata?), pinaulanan naman ng power punches ni Pacman si Oscar.

Parang absent noong Linggo si De La Hoya.

Bakit nagkaganoon, si De La Hoya lamang ang nakakaalam.

Nahirapan si De La Hoya dahil sa pagpapababa niya ng timbang mula 160 lbs papuntang 147?

Matanda na talaga si De La Hoya sa edad na 35 kaya’t wari’y hindi na siya makagalaw mabuti?

Posibleng oo ang sagot sa dalawang iyan.

Pero, sa kalibre ni De La Hoya, hindi major factor ang timbang. Dati na rin siyang 130 lbs at umakyat ng timbang sa paglipas ng panahon. Hindi banyaga ang 147 lbs sa kanya.

Sa boksingero, hindi matanda ang 35. Katunayan, edad 29 lang si Pacquiao pero mas marami siyang laban (53) kaysa kay De La Hoya (45).

Sa isang katulad ni De La Hoya na dekalibre, hindi pa da-tan ang 35.

Pansinin na hindi rin umiiwas o sumasalag masyado si De La Hoya.

“Ni hindi itinutulak ni De La Hoya si Pacquiao papalayo pag siya’y binubugbog ni Pacman,” sambit ni Richard Merk, ang respetadong singer at iniidolong may-ari ng Merk’s Place sa Greenbelt Makati.

Pero maliwanag: Napakagaling ni Pacquiao.

Kanya nga lang, napakagaling din ni De La Hoya na hindi maging magaling noong Linggo sa Las Vegas.

Kayo ang humatol.

[bubuy]

hindi daw factor ang timbang? eh kaya nga natalo si pacman nuon sa thailand dahil sa timbang eh.. :upside:

35 hindi pa matanda? :upside: hindi naman lahat ng bokisengero ay mala-foreman o holyfield eh.. :thumbsdownsmiley:

 

 

hey, i love the pacman ever since his blow by blow days circa 1990s (malamang karamihan sa inyo di pa kilala si pacman nun panahon na yan at nakikibandwagon lang in recent years eh ), the only thing i dont like about him is when he associates himself with politics..

 

 

sus naman itong si al mendoza, parang nung linggo lang nakapanuod ng boxing.. wag ka magpapaniwala jan brod..

Edited December 10, 2008 by bubuy

[uaeboy25]

well as far as i know. al mendoza is a person na pag natalo si pacman may reklamo, pag nanalo may reklamo. in short reklamador. gawa sya ng sariling palabas pantapat kay mike enriquez na imbestigador. ang kay mendoza "Reklamador w/ michael v."

 

about cotto and margarito vs pacman malayo pa. but what if matalo ni pacman si hatton at mayweather?a year ago larry merchant predicted the possible match between pacman and dela hoya. as long as pacman keeps on winning its possible. he win over marquez and he win over diaz and because of this a dream match takes place.

[bubuy]

wag ka na mag what if kay hatton, that lucky SOB built his reputation beating up no-name fighters.. kelan lang yan lumabas sa lungga nya para lumaban sa US eh.. i hate the idea of pacman going up against hatton, hindi sya kikita jan eh.. asarin na lang nya ng todo si gayweather para mag unretire.. para magkaalamanan na kung sino ang P4P king of this era.. dami kasi nagqquestion sa status ni MP eh.. para matahimik silang lahat!

Edited December 10, 2008 by bubuy

[dragonei]

^^^

 

Walang problema si Hatton, kahit pa magkaroon siya ng homecourt advantage kung sa england nga gagawin laban.

 

Hatton is a pure mugger, he lacks technique and finesse, he just attacks head forward like a bull.

 

Now mayweather will be a tough nut for manny to crack. This guys has the best defensive skills in the history. He never got his nose busted. They don't call him pretty boy for nothing. Manny needs something in his arsenal to penetrate that defese and bust his chin up pretty good.

[kanto-terrorist]

dami pa ring di makapaniwala sa galing ni pacman. there are really some guys who cant believe even their own eyes.

 

kung mga foreign boxing experts ang mga dudero, we can still understand their bitterness. they can't accept a poor little asian boy can beat the best out there in the west.

 

Pero kung kapwa mo kababayan ang gumawa ng ganun, there's one word for that: CRAB

 

I admit when i first learned of the dela hoya- pacman match, i really do think it will be a circus fight. and it was, indeed. we saw how a small guy can beat the ass out of a great and big boxer, and it's almost unbelievable. Nung dati sobrang dami ng nagpepredict na mauddurog si pacman, sigurado daw. ngayon, and alibis are overflowing. age, weight reduction, binenta... keep them coming.. it's just sad to see this age-old sick mentality still find its way even in this moment when we all should be happy and proud.

 

anyway: BRING ON HATTON!!!!

Edited December 10, 2008 by kanto-terrorist

[o0onapstero0o]

lol

 

like I said De La Hoya has nothing to gain by losing

 

his legacy is torn, by getting beat by a fighter who came up 2 weightclasses to fight him and started his career at 106. Keep in mind that this last fight is a career ender. Oscar, if he's smart, will no longer get in the ring after this, and the loss only cements the idea that ODLH is not hall of fame material.

 

he loses money - because Oscar is Golden Boy Inc's only cash cow, if you look at Golden Boy's roster no other name in there draws as big as ODLH, sure Manny's there but he's shared with Top Rank, and Manny only listens to Bob Arum. Given this loss and ODLH's imminent resignation, there are no more big fights to be had from Golden Boy in the near future, and it will take a while before they develop another fighter to be their new cash cow. Now if Oscar had beaten Pacman, he can set up a super fight with Hatton, and a retirement fight with Margarito which gives them 2 more big bouts to look forward to, and an estimated revenue well beyond the 7 figure limit, that would ensure a steady revenue stream for Golden Boy.

 

people saying that the fix was in, need to get their heads checked and look at the big picture.

 

 

 

i agree.... thats why i place my bet on him(golden boy) knowing that this fight would be his last and if there's any LUTO cooking up then it would have to be him being the eventual winner but to my surprise... he wasnt even trying. he doesnt even touch manny's face! but maybe age already takes it toll. manny is indeed in his prime and whoever face him will have a heluvah fight and thats for sure!

[kadafy]

haven't you guys thought...maybe oscar was hurt by that 1st left straight in the 1st round. kumbaga "naunahan". naramdaman nya kagad yung lakas ni pacman & he was surprised na ganun pala kalakas. kaya di makasuntok ng marami. sort of psychological. inabutan ng "kaba". parang ganun...

[kanto-terrorist]

^^^ and whats more... during their training, MP's camp keeps on telling the media that they will definitely go for Hoya's body. But in the first 3 rounds of the fight, Manny kept on attacking on his head, which is hard to imagine how manny would do it given the reach advantage ODLH has. alog na ulo ni Olden Boy kaya later on di na nya alam kung ano poprotektahan nya, kung ulo ba o katawan, at san manggagaling ang mga ratsada ni pacman, which eventually paralyzed him and reduced the golden boy into another punching bag diaz. Amazing display of strategy and Pacman really put on a clinic. Kudos to Freddie Roach, he's really an amazing tactician. for me, it's not Hoya's age, weight reduction issues or "benta" as some may call it. It all goes down to pacman's strategy and amazing speed.

[o0onapstero0o]

^ good point! di ba pwedeng nanalo lang kasi magaling? dpat tlga may issue na luto or matanda na at hindi na kaya? lets face it! ibang-iba ang manny na pagpakita at lumaban kay GB. goes to show na kaya tlga niya khit sino w/ the right training and focus! sana lng by the time na OK na yung lban nila ni Hitan or Money wla pa sa isip niya ang politics... ive heard some rumors na tatakbong cong. ng qc itong si manny eh and same party sila ng kabit nya na si Ara Mina..(sori kung medyo showbiz)