health STD & AIDS

[p1seishou]

Tested again at four weeks for HIV, syphilis and hep (the window period for 4th gen is 3-6 weeks btw) and got NR. I can say I am clean now, but will test three months after.

Prinsloo is right. If you can afford it, retire na lang. If you are going to continue, hanggang HJ na lang. I will not condemn those who still continue. After all, I'm here in this very forum where I myself took part in said deeds. Masarap talaga mga ganyan lalo na pag single, wala pang headache of commitment if actual gf. Pero yun lang, medically it's prudent to pause talaga while cases are raging upwards.

Edited February 9 by p1seishou

[joncaparas]

Long time lurker in this thread, among others.

Just some few info because sa bisyo na ganito, both GMs and Theras need to be aware.

-Different STDs, different tests. Walang one test fits all. Routine CBC aka blood test does NOT detect STDs. Kelangan ng specialized tests for them. Gono and Chlamydia can be detected via urinalysis. Pap smears does not detect STDs.

K, Let's count them down.

 

-HIV aka Hayop Itong Virus, joke - Human Immunodeficiency Virus.

Can be transmitted via anal, vaginal and oral sex. Anal sex being highest chance, Oral sex being almost negligible chance. Receptive has more chances of "winning" than insertive. Meaning kung ikaw ang tinutusok, mas mataas chance mo mahawa kesa sa tumutusok. Technically, besides blood transfusion and child birth from HIV+ mom, one has low chance of getting HIV. Then again, it's a gamble. Pwede ka magkaron nito sa 1st ever encounter mo, pwede din 10 years ka na nakikipag sex, never ka nahawa. If yung latter, tumaya ka na sa Lotto. Anyway...

HIV can be "prevented". Condom usage is basic. Has treatment but no cure.

PrEP (pre exposure prophylaxis). Pre means before. Women needs to take it daily, men, can take daily or do the 2-1-1 dosing schedule. Biology, not sexism sorry. 2-1-1 dosing is 2 pills atleast 2 hrs before sex, 1 pill the next day, 1 pill the following day. Take it within same time. Available sa Loveyourself. You CANNOT take this if HIV+ ka na. You need ART. See last item.

PEP (Post exposure prophylaxis). Post means after. Emergency pill, use incase condom breaks, accidental "live" (sure, accidental lol). THIS IS NOT MEANT as a treatment. This is a last resort incase of "accidents". You take a set of pills (usually 2 pills/day) for the next 30 days. You test before taking, and after taking and 30 days after last day of PEP. This is hard on your body. Some people, walang side-effect. But it's hard on your liver and kidneys.  It's safe, then again, it's not meant na gamitin paulit ulit. Available sa Loveyourself. You CANNOT take this if HIV+ ka na. You need:

ART - Antiretroviral therapy. If HIV+ ka na, this is it pancit. You take this daily so your HIV becomes undetectable. Positive ka pa din, pero studies show na U = U, meaning undetectable = untransmittable. This is your life now - daily pills, and it's great because you get to die of old age instead of HIV evolving into AIDS. This is NOT a cure, again, positive ka pa din. It just significantly lowers the amount of virus in your system, to the point na parang wala na. I think wala to sa Loveyourself pero if I recall correctly, should be free via DOH. 

Thank you Pia Wurtzbach and Catriona Gray for the campaign. And sa ibang gay friends ko na nagkwento nito.

 

-Syphilis

Can be transmitted via anal, vaginal and oral sex. Can rarely be transmitted via kissing if may open sores kayo.

Has 4 stages.

Stage 1 - may sores na not painful sa area kung san siya na transmit. This sore usually goes away without issues for around 2 weeks.

Stage 2 - secondary (duh) stage. Random rashes, flu-like symptoms for a short time.

Stage 3 - Latent stage, kumbaga nag-chichill lang si bacteria sa katawan niyo for the next 10-30 years. Nagawa na siya ng civilization sa katawan mo. Sana all pwede mag VL ng 10yrs pataas. Joke lang.

Stage 4 - Tertiary stage. Di lahat nadaan dito pero eto na yung stage na mag start na siya manira ng organs mo. Kumbaga, ikaw si Pilipinas, si Syphillis si China.

Good thing - can be cured by anti-biotics. Medyo heavy sa kidney pero atleast you get to live. Get tested regularly para madetect early. Will not undo any damage done sa katawan. 

 

-HPV

Can be transmitted via anal, vaginal and oral sex. Can also be transmitted via skin-to-skin contact. 

Gumagaling 8 out of 10 times. Super common. 

May vaccine. Recommended age up to 26yo. 26 to 45 - need to get doctor's opinion.

 

-HSV aka Herpes

Can be transmitted via anal, vaginal and oral sex. Can also be transmitted via skin-to-skin contact. 

Recurring. Nawawala (pero infected ka pa din) then bumabalik yung sores and blisters. Medicines can shorten yung pagsilip ng blisters.

No cure.

 

-Gono and Chlamydia

Can be transmitted via anal, vaginal and oral sex. Can be treated with a course of anti biotics. 

 

-Hepatitis

5 letters to (why oh why) so maging bata ulet tayo. Technically B and C lang pakelam natin pero k, lahatin natin.

A - has vaccine. Commonly spread via food/water. Resolves on it's own. Thank you kayo sa immune system.

B - no cure, has vaccine. So if responsible si parents niyo nung bata kayo, chances are vaccinated kayo, otherwise get vaccinated. Spread via bodily fluids aka blood, semen and vaginal secretion. Chronic hep-b requires anti-viral meds. Mahal, magastos.

C - No vaccine, but can be cured by anti-viral meds. Spread via bodily fluids aka blood, semen and vaginal secretion.

D - Spread via blood na may virus. Last I checked, may cure pero malala ata side effect.

E - Yes, last na. Commonly spread via food/water. Usually resolves on it's own. Thank you.

 

Last notes to GMs and Theras alike. 

Let's get tested regularly para masaya ang bisyo and work natin. Alisin na din natin ang stigma ng STDs. As you can see sa taas, most can be cured. Yung mga wala, has treatment options. 

Don't self-medicate. Incorrect taking ng anti-biotics can build up super bugs. Pls don't.

I personally get tested sa Loveyourself. Dun din ako nakuha ng PrEP. 

Let's promote PrEP, PEP and vaccines. Investment tong mga to. Remember, just because may cure, may treatment, may vaccines - does not mean we get to get wild. Use condoms pa din, still the 2nd best thing to prevent STDs after abstinence.

Let's be safe. Let's kill the stigma. Enjoy the work, the hobby.

 

Yun lang, bow.

PS: Walang tl-dr version, kasi ayoko na.

 

Edited February 13 by joncaparas

[John8]

10 hours ago, joncaparas said:

Long time lurker in this thread, among others.

Just some few info because sa bisyo na ganito, both GMs and Theras need to be aware.

-Different STDs, different tests. Walang one test fits all. Routine CBC aka blood test does NOT detect STDs. Kelangan ng specialized tests for them. Gono and Chlamydia can be detected via urinalysis. Pap smears does not detect STDs.

K, Let's count them down.

 

-HIV aka Hayop Itong Virus, joke - Human Immunodeficiency Virus.

Can be transmitted via anal, vaginal and oral sex. Anal sex being highest chance, Oral sex being almost negligible chance. Receptive has more chances of "winning" than insertive. Meaning kung ikaw ang tinutusok, mas mataas chance mo mahawa kesa sa tumutusok. Technically, besides blood transfusion and child birth from HIV+ mom, one has low chance of getting HIV. Then again, it's a gamble. Pwede ka magkaron nito sa 1st ever encounter mo, pwede din 10 years ka na nakikipag sex, never ka nahawa. If yung latter, tumaya ka na sa Lotto. Anyway...

HIV can be "prevented". Condom usage is basic. Has treatment but no cure.

PrEP (pre exposure prophylaxis). Pre means before. Women needs to take it daily, men, can take daily or do the 2-1-1 dosing schedule. Biology, not sexism sorry. 2-1-1 dosing is 2 pills atleast 2 hrs before sex, 1 pill the next day, 1 pill the following day. Take it within same time. Available sa Loveyourself. You CANNOT take this if HIV+ ka na. You need ART. See last item.

PEP (Post exposure prophylaxis). Post means after. Emergency pill, use incase condom breaks, accidental "live" (sure, accidental lol). THIS IS NOT MEANT as a treatment. This is a last resort incase of "accidents". You take a set of pills (usually 2 pills/day) for the next 30 days. You test before taking, and after taking and 30 days after last day of PEP. This is hard on your body. Some people, walang side-effect. But it's hard on your liver and kidneys.  It's safe, then again, it's not meant na gamitin paulit ulit. Available sa Loveyourself. You CANNOT take this if HIV+ ka na. You need:

ART - Antiretroviral therapy. If HIV+ ka na, this is it pancit. You take this daily so your HIV becomes undetectable. Positive ka pa din, pero studies show na U = U, meaning undetectable = untransmittable. This is your life now - daily pills, and it's great because you get to die of old age instead of HIV evolving into AIDS. This is NOT a cure, again, positive ka pa din. It just significantly lowers the amount of virus in your system, to the point na parang wala na. I think wala to sa Loveyourself pero if I recall correctly, should be free via DOH. 

Thank you Pia Wurtzbach and Catriona Gray for the campaign. And sa ibang gay friends ko na nagkwento nito.

 

-Syphilis

Can be transmitted via anal, vaginal and oral sex. Can rarely be transmitted via kissing if may open sores kayo.

Has 4 stages.

Stage 1 - may sores na not painful sa area kung san siya na transmit. This sore usually goes away without issues for around 2 weeks.

Stage 2 - secondary (duh) stage. Random rashes, flu-like symptoms for a short time.

Stage 3 - Latent stage, kumbaga nag-chichill lang si virus sa katawan niyo for the next 10-30 years. Nagawa na siya ng civilization sa katawan mo. Sana all pwede mag VL ng 10yrs pataas. Joke lang.

Stage 4 - Tertiary stage. Di lahat nadaan dito pero eto na yung stage na mag start na siya manira ng organs mo. Kumbaga, ikaw si Pilipinas, si Syphillis si China.

Good thing - can be cured by anti-biotics. Medyo heavy sa kidney pero atleast you get to live. Get tested regularly para madetect early. Will not undo any damage done sa katawan. 

 

-HPV

Can be transmitted via anal, vaginal and oral sex. Can also be transmitted via skin-to-skin contact. 

Gumagaling 8 out of 10 times. Super common. 

May vaccine. Recommended age up to 26yo. 26 to 45 - need to get doctor's opinion.

 

-HSV aka Herpes

Can be transmitted via anal, vaginal and oral sex. Can also be transmitted via skin-to-skin contact. 

Recurring. Nawawala (pero infected ka pa din) then bumabalik yung sores and blisters. Medicines can shorten yung pagsilip ng blisters.

No cure.

 

-Gono and Chlamydia

Can be transmitted via anal, vaginal and oral sex. Can be treated with a course of anti biotics. 

 

-Hepatitis

5 letters to (why oh why) so maging bata ulet tayo. Technically B and C lang pakelam natin pero k, lahatin natin.

A - has vaccine. Commonly spread via food/water. Resolves on it's own. Thank you kayo sa immune system.

B - no cure, has vaccine. So if responsible si parents niyo nung bata kayo, chances are vaccinated kayo, otherwise get vaccinated. Spread via bodily fluids aka blood, semen and vaginal secretion. Chronic hep-b requires anti-viral meds. Mahal, magastos.

C - No vaccine, but can be cured by anti-viral meds. Spread via bodily fluids aka blood, semen and vaginal secretion.

D - Spread via blood na may virus. Last I checked, may cure pero malala ata side effect.

E - Yes, last na. Commonly spread via food/water. Usually resolves on it's own. Thank you.

 

Last notes to GMs and Theras alike. 

Let's get tested regularly para masaya ang bisyo and work natin. Alisin na din natin ang stigma ng STDs. As you can see sa taas, most can be cured. Yung mga wala, has treatment options. 

Don't self-medicate. Incorrect taking ng anti-biotics can build up super bugs. Pls don't.

I personally get tested sa Loveyourself. Dun din ako nakuha ng PrEP. 

Let's promote PrEP, PEP and vaccines. Investment tong mga to. Remember, just because may cure, may treatment, may vaccines - does not mean we get to get wild. Use condoms pa din, still the 2nd best thing to prevent STDs after abstinence.

Let's be safe. Let's kill the stigma. Enjoy the work, the hobby.

 

Yun lang, bow.

PS: Walang tl-dr version, kasi ayoko na.

 

Thanks for the comprehensive and informative post! Was just curious, for skin contact does it need to be open wounds or even simple skin contact can also transfer some sickness? 

[Poooops]

Very informative thread. And lakas maka kumbinsi na mag retire.

Question tho,

Can std's get healed without antibiotics?

 

I remember mga 2010, college pa ako nun, had live ONS, and nagkatulo ako. Pero that time, takot ako magpa check so hinayaan ko lang.

May discharge ako and madami. Mahirap na umihi. Not sure ano nangyari pero nawala na lang sya bigla. 

Now after reading this thread, I wonder kung anong nangyari sakin noon and pano ako gumaling?

[infallible]

22 minutes ago, Poooops said:

Very informative thread. And lakas maka kumbinsi na mag retire.

Question tho,

Can std's get healed without antibiotics?

 

I remember mga 2010, college pa ako nun, had live ONS, and nagkatulo ako. Pero that time, takot ako magpa check so hinayaan ko lang.

May discharge ako and madami. Mahirap na umihi. Not sure ano nangyari pero nawala na lang sya bigla. 

Now after reading this thread, I wonder kung anong nangyari sakin noon and pano ako gumaling?

Did you get tested since then? Having no symptoms does not necessarily mean you're free from infection. You can be asymptomatic but still have the infection, and some bacteria/viruses can become dormant for a very long time. 

"Can STD's get healed without antibiotics?"

Take note that not all STD's are caused by bacteria, some of them are caused by viruses and parasites, so technically speaking you don't need antibiotics if the STD is not caused by bacteria but still need other treatment. For STDs/STIs that are caused by bacteria (e.g. gonorrhea, chlamydia, mycoplasma genitalium, syphilis) you definitely need antibiotics, it won't go away on its own.

[infallible]

On 2/11/2024 at 1:30 AM, joncaparas said:

Stage 3 - Latent stage, kumbaga nag-chichill lang si virus sa katawan niyo for the next 10-30 years. Nagawa na siya ng civilization sa katawan mo. Sana all pwede mag VL ng 10yrs pataas. Joke lang.

just a correction, syphilis is bacterial and not a virus.

[Prinsloo]

For the meantime unless there is a unicorn thera pops out of nowhere i think im retired for now.

Edited February 14 by Prinsloo

[Why Not]

What are the chances na mahawa sa HPV and Herpes through mere skin to skin contact?

Paano kapag nagmassage lang?

 

 

 

[joncaparas]

17 hours ago, Poooops said:

Very informative thread. And lakas maka kumbinsi na mag retire.

Question tho,

Can std's get healed without antibiotics?

 

I remember mga 2010, college pa ako nun, had live ONS, and nagkatulo ako. Pero that time, takot ako magpa check so hinayaan ko lang.

May discharge ako and madami. Mahirap na umihi. Not sure ano nangyari pero nawala na lang sya bigla. 

Now after reading this thread, I wonder kung anong nangyari sakin noon and pano ako gumaling?

Easy answer: Get tested.

Wag ka matakot. In the event na meron ka, atleast you know kung ano dapat gawin. 

Incase na wala, tuloy ang ligaya.

14 hours ago, infallible said:

just a correction, syphilis is bacterial and not a virus.

Ah right, I will update. Thanks!

4 hours ago, Why Not said:

What are the chances na mahawa sa HPV and Herpes through mere skin to skin contact?

Paano kapag nagmassage lang?

 

 

 

Open sores usually.

PS:

Di po ako doktor. Napansin ko lang sa thread na to na may mga confusion for STDs hence the post.

Lahat yan based sa research ko (plus kwentuhan with other people), since nasa hobby din ako. Most info came from CDC. I want to protect me and others. 

To be honest, around 90% ng tanong dito sa STD thread ay pwede sagutin ng 1 sagot: Get tested.

And the post is not to discourage anyone from the hobby ha - think of it as a campaign para maging aware and safe lahat para tuloy tuloy ang ligaya.

 

[nck_atmtc]

On 1/20/2024 at 7:43 AM, Prinsloo said:

This hits hard

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNETYRpq/

Oh my....

[reverselookup]

Makapag jakol na nga lang. Back to you guys!

[Prinsloo]

9 hours ago, reverselookup said:

Makapag jakol na nga lang. Back to you guys!

Or hanap jowa na lang kung single. With all that booking money, for sure marami kang pang date, travel and gift for her hahaha

[Poooops]

If theres a rampant infection, nakakatakot na talaga. Kasi di mo alam if baka infected ka na, wala ka lang nararamdaman. Ang masama, if mahawa pati SO mo

[Prinsloo]

On 2/15/2024 at 9:29 PM, Poooops said:

If theres a rampant infection, nakakatakot na talaga. Kasi di mo alam if baka infected ka na, wala ka lang nararamdaman. Ang masama, if mahawa pati SO mo

If tayong mga GM takot na, how about yung mga thera na exposed (no pun intended) to people they dont realy know every hour of the day 

[keenpee]

hello po

got to test rpr titer and tppa titer

rpr 1:1

tppa 1:80 year 2021,

are these values positive?

Ftb-abs negative