civilcode Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 To give you an idea, the case of Manila Water. i was quit disppointed last year that I failed to secure stock from its intial public offer. If I remember right it around 6.50, however a week later Manila waters stock drop down less 5% of its value. Now, i think it around 6.30 to 6.40. The point is IPO is not a big advantage to secure a good profit. If you want to have profit in Stock market you must know well the company or at least the company has a good history. Quote Link to comment
George Estregan Lives Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Is that so ? smartass :boo:<{POST_SNAPBACK}> So ano nga talaga? Do you need a broker, or what? Ano ang dapat kong gawin kung bibili ako ng IPO ng First Gen? Quote Link to comment
George Estregan Lives Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 What in your opinion is a smart buy among companies planning (or are rumored) to go public this year? Quote Link to comment
civilcode Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 The tradegy that happen in Ultra I think would affect ABS - CBN, stock holder. Unless the Majority holder and management will do something about the said incident Quote Link to comment
chaotix Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 The tradegy that happen in Ultra I think would affect ABS - CBN, stock holder. Unless the Majority holder and management will do something about the said incident<{POST_SNAPBACK}> if you mean benpres they are already in trouble, with the latest supreme court ruling on the voiding of the erb approval of the meralco rate increase, now this. sayang bayantel was doing good under receivership, now i think the lopez group is in trouble. maybe this is a good time to think of selling benpres, meralco, abs-cbn stock. Quote Link to comment
THUG Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 The tradegy that happen in Ultra I think would affect ABS - CBN, stock holder. Unless the Majority holder and management will do something about the said incident<{POST_SNAPBACK}> you are so hard-headed.. i told you and everyone else told you here DONT buy abs-cbn stock.. you never listened.. see.. now your money is all gone.. heavy selling of abs-cbn now.. next time you listen to the experts.. Quote Link to comment
civilcode Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Yup I know that ABS-CBN stock is not that stable like before. I brought my ABS stock July 2005 for P10, still I have margin for profit. TO THUG: Question: I dont understand what happen to ABS, before, ABS stock is included in blue chip or active stock, I exprience the all time peak of P28 per stock.What happen for sudden down ??? Quote Link to comment
magnus Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 ok i'm all ears... what are good stocks to buy... or to watch out for? you are so hard-headed.. i told you and everyone else told you here DONT buy abs-cbn stock.. you never listened.. see.. now your money is all gone.. heavy selling of abs-cbn now.. next time you listen to the experts..<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment
THUG Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Yup I know that ABS-CBN stock is not that stable like before. I brought my ABS stock July 2005 for P10, still I have margin for profit. TO THUG: Question: I dont understand what happen to ABS, before, ABS stock is included in blue chip or active stock, I exprience the all time peak of P28 per stock.What happen for sudden down ???<{POST_SNAPBACK}> dont you understand..ABS-CBN is losing money and is falling on the ratings against GMA-7? they even had to reduce their staff because they are losing money.. in terms of quality programming.. ABS-CBN has very poor quality programs.. what with Pinoy Big brother, Nginiig.. who watch those crap shows anyways.. same goes with another abs affiliate stock like Meralco.. and another company Maynilad water, who is also in financial trouble.. ..the people behind this has the reverse midas touch..anything they touch turns to garbage.. i dont remember ABS touching flat 10.. they did touch 10.5 though.. and this was during the time they were reported to have been having financial trouble.. so that necessitates they reduce their staff.. holding abs cbn is like waiting for trouble when GMA-7 goes for IPO.. if you hold abs-cbn, then a GMA-7 IPO would be bad news for you.. Quote Link to comment
THUG Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 ok i'm all ears... what are good stocks to buy... or to watch out for?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Philex mining and PLDT.. Quote Link to comment
civilcode Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 i dont remember ABS touching flat 10.. they did touch 10.5 though.. and this was during the time they were reported to have been having financial trouble.. so that necessitates they reduce their staff.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> if I remember right, 4- 6 July 2005, actually 10.25 to be exact figure. i buy 3500 shares that time and sell 1500 shares last December, Hoping to BUY GMA IPO. Right now, still holding the other half. If I remember it right, One of the factors that affect the sudden drop of ABS is the reported losses of ABS is making local TV Series (Computer animation) and F4 expenses and other, that was before 2004. ABs is still on recovery level from previous year, reading from 2005 Q4, report, their is an of 8% increase in revenue, but still 8% revenue is not enought for 2005. I beg to disagree, that most of the program that ABS was not appreciated by the viewers. Pinoy Big Brother is one, that i think save ABS. But I agree with you that Nginiig and spirits, is the show that I dont appreaciated much. In my view I will make a forecast, in the release of Pinoy Big Brother celeb. Edition, which i think hold a potential in favor of ABS with in 2 months / 60 Days. ABS stock will reached P16 level like before November 2005. i HOPE SO ...... :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
chaotix Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 same goes with another abs affiliate stock like Meralco.. and another company Maynilad water, who is also in financial trouble.. ..the people behind this has the reverse midas touch..anything they touch turns to garbage.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> maynilad is being sold - manila water will most likely buy them out, last year pa yan linuluto, so don't count maynilad out Quote Link to comment
THUG Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 maynilad is being sold - manila water will most likely buy them out, last year pa yan linuluto, so don't count maynilad out<{POST_SNAPBACK}> i doubt it..the ayalas are not crazy enough to buy large debts of maynilad.. maynilad is leaking..and bleeding money.. just avoid the stocks that revolves around these affiliates.. same people behind running it.. that is why even first gen is not a big issue now.. Quote Link to comment
magnus Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Arrrrgggghhhh!!!!! Bagsak stocks ngayon!!! Mahabang hintayan na naman ito... good if me spare money ka to buy cheap stocks. Hey Thug, ano ibig sabihin ng consolidation? Ano dapat gawin and to watch out for during consolidations? And how often does it occur? Quote Link to comment
THUG Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Arrrrgggghhhh!!!!! Bagsak stocks ngayon!!! Mahabang hintayan na naman ito... good if me spare money ka to buy cheap stocks. Hey Thug, ano ibig sabihin ng consolidation? Ano dapat gawin and to watch out for during consolidations? And how often does it occur?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> consolidation=correction, ibig sabihin sobrang taas ng presyo ng mga stocks..pahinga muna para maka akyat uli... mas ok yan kesa sa tuloy tuloy na akyat..ang delikado yung tuloy tuloy na akyat.. kailangan muna magbenta ng mga investor para may pera uli silang pambili.. ngayon marami silang pera..expect tomorrow up uli.. positioning lang yan..benta isang stock..then bukas ibang stock ang bibilhin..jockeying for position mga investors.. Quote Link to comment
chaotix Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 i doubt it..the ayalas are not crazy enough to buy large debts of maynilad.. maynilad is leaking..and bleeding money.. just avoid the stocks that revolves around these affiliates.. same people behind running it.. that is why even first gen is not a big issue now..<{POST_SNAPBACK}> the ayalas have been doing a due diligence on maynilad. of course they don't want to buy the debts, they are after the franchise. i'm still waiting to see what their bright boys come up with. as to first gen, they still managed to pawn off their long term bonds. they got less than what they were aiming for though, but it still buys them some time. so are you giving up on the lopezes? Quote Link to comment
bosorero Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 (edited) pang wet market lang ako aka talipapa bili na mga suki sariwang sariwa piso tumpok. Edited February 7, 2006 by bosorero Quote Link to comment
THUG Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 the ayalas have been doing a due diligence on maynilad. of course they don't want to buy the debts, they are after the franchise. i'm still waiting to see what their bright boys come up with. as to first gen, they still managed to pawn off their long term bonds. they got less than what they were aiming for though, but it still buys them some time. so are you giving up on the lopezes?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> stupidest thing i have heard..when you buy a company or when you buy stocks of a company you become owner of that company..so you also own the debt.. that is fundamental analysis.. that is why you have to look at the financial statement of the company.. are they buried under growing debt? are they earning money? are they earning more than their losses?.. is their income growing every year? Quote Link to comment
magnus Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Still going down!!! Kelan nyo recommend bumili? When do you think the last bear day this week? Quote Link to comment
THUG Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Still going down!!! Kelan nyo recommend bumili? When do you think the last bear day this week?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> buy PLDT now.. while it lasts.. Quote Link to comment
THUG Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 i have overheard from the news yesterday that ABS-CBN will be closed down.. so those who has ABS-CBN.. sell it before your money is gone.. Quote Link to comment
magnus Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Grabe naman...mag sasara! Anyway PLDT is going up again!! Yabadoo!!!! Shet I should have bought nung 186x ang price nya!!! Dude paano malalaman tapos na rally niya pataas? Paturo naman ano indicators. Sayang last time di ko binenta nung umabot sa all time high eh. i have overheard from the news yesterday that ABS-CBN will be closed down.. so those who has ABS-CBN.. sell it before your money is gone..<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment
al12678 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 PLDT is an excellent blue chip but once you make profit sell, act before others get a hint or before you know the shares are gonna drop.Also, buy shares low and sell high. ABS-CBN is having a tough time right now and so market movers are going to invest in it. Wouldn't it be logical to invest in something people don't really expect, I assume so. Also, invest in companies that have cash-rich balance sheets, even companies with debt are fine, you just have to be familiar with the management and corporate organization. I just keep an eye out on the PSE but I trade internationally. The ultra tragedy is a political catalyst, the politicians and bureaucrats are taking it out on the Lopezes which is quite obvious. One has to remember it isn't really their fault, they are partly to be held liable for it but it was also the crowd's doing. Buy San Miguel B, its shares are stable at 80+, a couple of months ago it was 100+, it will be a good long-term investment, always think 6 months to a couple of years ahead, it depends what you're looking for, a quick buck or long steady investment. Quote Link to comment
THUG Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 i seriously would not hype much about this stock as a majority of Lopez-owned stocks are falling.. also Meralco is also having some problems with the government.... but to each his own...its your money anyways..<{POST_SNAPBACK}> as i mentioned on my previous post..First Gen IPO now falling... everyone are selling their first GeN shares.. im correct.. Quote Link to comment
George Estregan Lives Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Kaya nga eh. Buti na lang muna ako tumuloy. Siguro for starters stick muna ako sa balanced funds. But i'll still scan every so often the business pages. Abang-abangan ko IPO ng GMA7. Ano nga pala say mo sa GMA? I'm interested to hear your predictions. Thanks. Quote Link to comment
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