Supplements - to Take or Not to Take?

[a4techy]

ei., any of you guys tried purchasing from philsupplements.com? the prices here are relatively low..

 

its cheaper but the cheapest place to buy supplements is cash and carry in makati

[riceb0i]

I think eating 3 times a day is enough

BUT if you want to add on mass, studies have shown that 5 smaller meals a day is better to gain mass....because frequent eating gives your body a ready supply of nutrients that it needs to avoid catabolism..

 

 

Definitely not enough.

 

 

5 small meals is actually more on the "dieting" approach. If you wana gain mass, you should eat "square" meals and not "small meals"

 

thank you for all the responses, i've recently started doing the eating every 3-4 hours thing, its kinda tough but i think i'll manage to eat around 5 full meals a day though

 

question about this: does snacking on a fruit or a couple of celery sticks not included on the eating a full meal part? i mean i enjoy a banana or two a couple of hours after a meal, so it kinda gives me another 2 hours before my next meal?

[Olympus]

question about this: does snacking on a fruit or a couple of celery sticks not included on the eating a full meal part? i mean i enjoy a banana or two a couple of hours after a meal, so it kinda gives me another 2 hours before my next meal?

 

Just keep shoving food down your throat

[Palakol]

recently i started taking mega mass (the one like sustagen) because i wanted to gain weight so i won't be really skinny when i take up BJJ classes. my question is, is it really effective? i'm not a health buff nor a gym goer & i'm really starting from scratch here, if any of you guys can share on how i can "mass up" i would really appreciate your help

 

i'm 5'9" & only 120 lbs so i'd say i'm reed thin, i haven't started lifting weights since i don't know what & how much weights i should lift (help on this matter is also welcome)

 

thank you for help & i'm expecting your replies on the matter

as rip says, squat big and drink your milk (full fat).

 

 

sirs, i'm gonna need your help with this one. i'm not really a supplement guy. i mean, i take 1'000mg of calcium and a multivitamin in the morning, and two servings of enervon hp after training (i've been training explosively and anaerobically almost exclusively). that's about it. i still feel burned out almost every day, even though i'm on a high carbohydrate 5-to-7-meal-a-day diet. i'm looking to increase my performance, decrease recovery time, and get the best out of my workouts.

 

now i've been doing some reading (mostly from ross), and here's what i was able to come up with:

PROTEIN (maybe i'm somewhat lacking?)

GLUTAMINE

BRANCHED CHAIN AMINO ACIDS

CREATINE MONOHYDRATE

RIBOSE

FLAXSEED (isn't this kind of the same as fish oil?)

L-TYROSINE

 

now, i have never tried any supplementation whatsoever since. so i want to ask you guys, what the hell did i just list down? will they do any good, or will i just piss away good money? feedback would be greatly appreciated. many thanks, in advance. :thumbsupsmiley:

Edited December 14, 2008 by Palakol

[Olympus]

as rip says, squat big and drink your milk (full fat).

 

 

sirs, i'm gonna need your help with this one. i'm not really a supplement guy. i mean, i take 1'000mg of calcium and a multivitamin in the morning, and two servings of enervon hp after training (i've been training explosively and anaerobically almost exclusively). that's about it. i still feel burned out almost every day, even though i'm on a high carbohydrate 5-to-7-meal-a-day diet. i'm looking to increase my performance, decrease recovery time, and get the best out of my workouts.

 

now i've been doing some reading (mostly from ross), and here's what i was able to come up with:

PROTEIN (maybe i'm somewhat lacking?)

GLUTAMINE

BRANCHED CHAIN AMINO ACIDS

CREATINE MONOHYDRATE

RIBOSE

FLAXSEED (isn't this kind of the same as fish oil?)

L-TYROSINE

 

now, i have never tried any supplementation whatsoever since. so i want to ask you guys, what the hell did i just list down? will they do any good, or will i just piss away good money? feedback would be greatly appreciated. many thanks, in advance. :thumbsupsmiley:

 

I'll suggest creatine ethyl ester and probably some protein at most since this is what you need being a fighter

[SilentStriker]

ei., any of you guys tried purchasing from philsupplements.com? the prices here are relatively low..

 

yup. depende din sa dami ng bibilhin pwede ka pa makakuha ng discount.

[NihonJin]

its cheaper but the cheapest place to buy supplements is cash and carry in makati

 

Hydroxy is 1900 here, Lipo6x is 2100. sa Cash and Carry ganito din ba ang presyo nito? San banda dun?

[Olympus]

Hydroxy is 1900 here, Lipo6x is 2100. sa Cash and Carry ganito din ba ang presyo nito? San banda dun?

 

they're abour 10% cheaper.

 

Cash and carry is along the south super highway heading to manila, quirino ave

[BEaST-RiPPed]

its cheaper but the cheapest place to buy supplements is cash and carry in makati

 

 

yup. depende din sa dami ng bibilhin pwede ka pa makakuha ng discount.

 

 

Hydroxy is 1900 here, Lipo6x is 2100. sa Cash and Carry ganito din ba ang presyo nito? San banda dun?

 

 

guys, our fellow vvader is selling Isopure Whey Iso

if interested kayo you can PM him

i myself ordered 2 :thumbsupsmiley:

[impaktitus]

I've been visting gym for 10 consecutive months now but, ihven't try using any supplements, medyo takot kasi ako sa side effects eh.

[congressman]

as rip says, squat big and drink your milk (full fat).

 

 

sirs, i'm gonna need your help with this one. i'm not really a supplement guy. i mean, i take 1'000mg of calcium and a multivitamin in the morning, and two servings of enervon hp after training (i've been training explosively and anaerobically almost exclusively). that's about it. i still feel burned out almost every day, even though i'm on a high carbohydrate 5-to-7-meal-a-day diet. i'm looking to increase my performance, decrease recovery time, and get the best out of my workouts.

 

now i've been doing some reading (mostly from ross), and here's what i was able to come up with:

PROTEIN (maybe i'm somewhat lacking?)

GLUTAMINE

BRANCHED CHAIN AMINO ACIDS

CREATINE MONOHYDRATE

RIBOSE

FLAXSEED (isn't this kind of the same as fish oil?)

L-TYROSINE

 

now, i have never tried any supplementation whatsoever since. so i want to ask you guys, what the hell did i just list down? will they do any good, or will i just piss away good money? feedback would be greatly appreciated. many thanks, in advance. :thumbsupsmiley:

 

Glutamine, BAA's and Tyrosine are all Amino acids which can be derived from protein source such as meat. Useful only after workout for repair. Rest of the unused protein is converted to glucose.

Ribose is a sugar used for DNA. Your body makes it in an as needed basis from glucose.

Creatine is immediate energy and is easily removed from the body. Pointless at high doses and works in the first 10 secs of your workout. Excreted in your urine.

Don't take too much calcium at baka magka heart attack ka... (higher risk for kidney stones too)

Flaxseed oil is polyunsaturated oil. ( i don't want to say much because i hate reading lipids) It can become rancid (panis) and get rid of it if it does.

 

Sources: Harper's Biochemistry, Stryer, http://www.building-muscle101.com/, google.com

[ChiliMac]

I used to take 500mg daily of Vit C and Vit E before when I used to work in call center. Madalas kasing puyat and madalas mag-yosi. Since I quit early this year I started a holistic approach, I get all the nutrients and vitamins from the food I take. I let the food I intake be my medicine. I feel alright and strong at my age (31 yrs old) and I regularly jog at least 30 minutes a day. I'm not saying to not take your supplements, it's just my own choice since I have the most time for myself nowadays.

 

Cheers!

[Palakol]

what exactly can creatine do for me? i mean the product isn't cheap. will it be worth it? (i'm also avoiding weight gain.)

Edited January 21, 2009 by Palakol

[Olympus]

what exactly can creatine do for me? i mean the product isn't cheap. will it be worth it? (i'm also avoiding weight gain.)

 

This post has been edited by Palakol: Today, 12:52 AM

 

It helps increase muscle size and replenishes phosphates.

 

If you're avoiding weight gain, just regulate your caloric intake so you won't gain that much size

[delavega]

what exactly can creatine do for me? i mean the product isn't cheap. will it be worth it? (i'm also avoiding weight gain.)

 

Depends on what kind of creatine you use. Creatine monohydrate converts to creatinine increasing kidney workload. Although this is considered as a myth, It is not a myth in medical science. Some effects of creatine is Increased strength, Muscle gains in a way that your muscle would tend to hold water, thus increasing muscle size. Side effects are bloat and water retention. Up and down weight gain.

 

Kre-Alkalyn however promises a zero side effect creatine. It is buffered and is alkaline eliminating the conversion of it to creatinine. It is absorbed diretly to the muscle. It comes in purple capsules. I saw people do good on this one. But then again, only temporary gains.

 

Creaine Ethyl Ester is the new generation creatine. No more up and down weight gain and promises permanent gains. I haven't seen anyone using this yet. The good thing about this creatine is that most of it already comes with Glutamine, the product that increases hardness of the muscle.

 

 

I had minimal experience using supplements. The closest thing and only thing I had to a supplement is AnimalPak. If I were you, I'd spend more on Eggs and Chicken Breast.

 

Try also to watch "Bigger, Faster, Stronger" in order to learn the truth about supplements. I know a lot of people will react to this, especially the ones who are dependent on supplements/depending on supplements for gains but imo, nothing beats a good nutritional program and working like a slave, Eatling like a King, Sleeping like Corpse.