Supplements - to Take or Not to Take?

[r0bin]

pare...any food can potentially cause ur tummy to grow...

 

the key is to compute ur caloric intake vs. spend...and u can gauge ur spend by watching ur activity level.

 

keep ur activity high and lower ur caloric intake and u'll lose weight...

 

now specifically sa tummy, that's genetics...if u'r losing weight and u still have ur tummy despite all the abs exercises, then that's it...poor u. blame ur parents for the bad set of genes.  :thumbsupsmiley:

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whew! buti na lng pag pumapayat ako eh kasama tummy ko nawawala. but im into weight gain ryt now.

 

im taking On's whey kaya lng ang problem ko eh dali ko mapagod after a week (3-4days) in the gym.

 

ano ba maganda specific foods pare to boost my strenght?

[Jourdan]

whew! buti na lng pag pumapayat ako eh kasama tummy ko nawawala. but im into weight gain  ryt now.

 

im taking On's whey kaya lng ang problem ko eh dali ko mapagod after a week (3-4days) in the gym.

 

ano ba maganda specific foods pare to boost my strenght?

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simpler carbs after ur workout.

 

tapos eat smaller meals containing complex carbs, ample protein and essential fats...i don't personally believe na u can gain something with low-carb diet except feeling tired all the time...UNLESS u really want to lose weight.

 

basta, ganito yung nabasa ko (and w/c I'm following right now with good results):

 

specify ur caloric need based on ur activity level...ako, i need 2400 cal/day...others who want to bulk up take as much as 4000 cal per day but i don't think that's healthy...anyway, it's only my opinion.

 

going on, after that, just take this simple guide:

 

~ 1 g protein / 1 lb body weight.

> 2.3 g carb / 1 lb body weight.

balance is fat.

 

tapos be sure, carbs are complex carbs. rich in fibre.

 

fat should be 10-15% of ur caloric intake. fat should be at best omega 3/6/9-rich (tuna contains good amt of essential fatty acids, also flaxseed). no transfat...little or no polysat fat.

 

yan, u will bulk up (or maintain) without getting tired (actually, u'll be much healthier if u'r able to follow this)

 

nag-wowork sa kin eh...i have modest aims and my primary goal is to simply get healthy with of course, toned and rightly proportioned muscles...

 

i don't plan to be anything close to a ronnie coleman...hehehe :cool:

[Batabatuta®]

The Top 10 Supplements for Men

Your drugstore carries thousands of bottles of colored pills. These are the ones you actually need

 

 

The greatest moment in the history of supplements came on September 1, 1998. That's when a sportswriter challenged Sammy Sosa on how he could compete with the androstenedione-assisted Mark McGwire. In reply, Sosa uncorked a shocker: He owed it all -- wink -- to Flintstones vitamins. Coincidence or not, after Sosa bunny-hopped and blew a kiss to the pill makers, the market soared, with $17 billion in sales in 2000.

 

So that you spend your share wisely, we asked shrewd judges of vitamin talent to name a supplement all-star team for men. Judge your strengths and weaknesses, and pencil in a lineup that will work for you.

 

BORON TO PROTECT YOUR PROSTATE

 

Men with the highest boron intakes are 65 percent less likely to develop prostate cancer than men with lower levels, studies show. American men have one of the lowest boron intakes in the world.

 

How much? 3 milligrams (mg) a day. It doesn't just fight cancer: USDA researchers found that this is the best dosage to improve memory and concentration.

 

Tip: It's not in every store, but GNC carries it. If you can't find it, eat raisins and almonds.

 

CALCIUM TO LOSE WEIGHT AND STRENGTHEN BONES

 

Most men don't get the recommended 1,000 mg of calcium a day (a cup of milk has 300). Men with the highest calcium intakes weigh less on average than men consuming less calcium.

 

How much? Aim for 1,200 mg calcium citrate -- half in the morning, half at night, to maximize absorption. Avoid coral calcium, which can be full of impurities.

 

Tip: If you already eat three servings of dairy a day, you won't need the excess calcium. There's a risk you may exceed the maximum intake of 2,500 mg.

 

CHROMIUM TO WARD OFF DIABETES

You may know it as a muscle-building supplement, but if you're overweight or diabetes runs in your family, "taking chromium is one of the best things you can do to help keep insulin levels where they belong," says Richard Anderson, Ph.D., a researcher with the USDA. Chromium improves the body's sensitivity to insulin, making it easier to keep blood-sugar levels under control.

 

How much? 35 micrograms (mcg) a day. Check the label for "chromium picolinate," the form that studies have found to be the most effective.

 

Tip: If you already are diabetic, ask your doctor if you should take 200 mcg, Anderson says.

 

COENZYME Q10 TO BOOST ENERGY

 

Your body produces coenzyme Q10; it helps cells manage your body's energy supply. But as you get older, production decreases. The only way to get back up to youthful levels is by taking a supplement. Recent studies suggest that coenzyme Q10 may fight cancer, Parkinson's disease, and Huntington's disease, and may thin the blood to help prevent heart disease. Q10 is also packed with free-radical-fighting antioxidants, which can slow the signs of aging.

 

How much? Researchers recommend 100 mg a day. You won't find Q10 in a multivitamin or get any useful quantity from food.

 

Tip: If you're taking statins, which can reduce Q10, consider upping your intake to 200 mg.

 

CREATINE TO BOOST MUSCLE AND MEMORY

 

Researchers at the Medical College of Wisconsin found that men taking creatine for just 2 to 3 months increased their maximum bench presses by an average of 15 pounds and their squats by 21 pounds. Australian researchers say memory and intelligence test scores improved after just 6 weeks of creatine use.

 

How much? 5 grams (g) a day, mixed with whey in a protein shake for maximum benefit.

 

Tip: Some men don't respond to creatine by itself. Mixing it with large amounts of sugar can help turn nonresponders into responders.

 

FOLIC ACID TO CUT ALZHEIMER'S RISK

 

Folic acid helps prevent clogged arteries and improves bloodflow to the brain by keeping down levels of homocysteine, an amino acid that increases your risk of blood clots. High homocysteine levels are associated with early warning signs of Alzheimer's, such as dementia and memory loss. Researchers in Sweden found that Alzheimer's patients are more likely to have folic acid deficiencies.

 

How much? 500 mcg a day, which could help lower homocysteine levels by 18 percent or more. Food sources include citrus fruit, beans, and fortified breads and cereals.

 

Tip: Certain heartburn medications, such as Tagamet, can deplete levels of folic acid.

 

GLUCOSAMINE TO GREASE YOUR JOINTS

 

You don't have the same amount of cartilage in your joints that you had at 19 -- maybe you've noticed. To reverse the damage and actually rebuild cartilage, take glucosamine, made from the shells of crabs and lobsters. In a 3-year study of 200 people with joint problems published in the Lancet, glucosamine reduced joint pain and stiffness by up to 25 percent and helped prevent the progression of osteoarthritis in the knees. The British Journal of Sports Medicine says that 88 percent of people with joint problems reported less pain after 12 weeks of treatment.

 

How much? 1,500 mg a day. Brands that combine glucosamine with chondroitin are fine.

 

Tip: Rubbing a cream made with glucosamine on a sore joint may relieve pain, according to an Australian study.

 

OMEGA-3S TO PROTECT YOUR HEART

 

Omega-3 fatty acids keep blood pressure and triglyceride levels low and the heart beating regularly. They make blood slicker, reducing the risk of clots and blocked arteries. Studies show that men with the highest omega-3 levels have the lowest risk of dying of heart disease.

 

How much? For healthy guys, 1,000 mg a day. Those with heart problems may need 2,000 to 4,000 mg. But check with your doctor -- too much can increase your risk of catching a cold.

 

Tip: Our favorite is Omega Brite, an especially pure brand that comes in 500-mg gelcaps, so you're not popping pills all day. Take omega-3s with meals so you don't burp up a fish scent.

 

SELENIUM TO FIGHT OFF CANCER

 

"No other single nutrient appears to prevent cancer more effectively than selenium," says Gerald F. Combs, Ph.D., director of the USDA's Grand Forks Human Nutrition Research Center. It basically forces cancer cells to self-destruct. Combs's studies have linked increased selenium consumption to a decreased risk of cancers of the prostate, colon, and lungs, among others.

 

How much? 200 mcg a day -- more when you're sick. Research on mice, done at the University of North Carolina, suggests that low levels of selenium may make it easier for viruses to mutate, worsening symptoms of the flu.

 

Tip: Nature's selenium supplement is the Brazil nut, which has 100 mcg per nut.

 

VITAMIN E TO SLOW THE EFFECTS OF AGING

 

This is one of the most potent antioxidants. "Vitamin E may help reduce the risk of certain eye diseases, heart disease, cancer, even Alzheimer's disease," says Jeffrey Blumberg, Ph.D., a professor of nutrition at Tufts University. Bonus: Studies show it also reduces muscle damage after exercise.

 

How much? Up to 400 international units (IU) a day, since most people get just a fraction of that from their diets. (A typical multivitamin has 45 IU.) You can also increase your intake by eating more nuts and oils.

 

Tip: Buy natural vitamin E (d-alpha tocopherol) rather than synthetic (dl-alpha tocopherol), which is harder for the body to put to use.

 

Looking for a good multivitamin? Swallow one of these

 

You still need to take a multivitamin. It's one of the best ways to reduce your risk of a number of ills, including heart disease, stroke, and diabetes. Our favorite? Centrum Silver, which contains 100 percent of your recommended intake of 16 core nutrients, along with additional doses of 15 other disease fighters--such as lycopene, lutein, and selenium. (Ignore the "for adults 50+" on the label--it's great for men of all ages.)

 

An added bonus: Unlike other multis, Centrum Silver is free of iron--a mineral that can increase some men's risk of heart disease and Parkinson's disease. Our backup choice, One A Day Men's Health Formula, comes close, with higher doses of some of the basics but without a few of the extras in Centrum Silver.

[r0bin]

pareng jourdan and stormashadow tnx for the posts.

 

very informative. i believe na di sapat ang exercises or being a gym buff mahalaga talaga yung food and supplement intakes.

[Dreman]

hi guys! i need your help!

 

Can you suggest any supplements that can help boost my appetite? I mean my eating habit is bad. Kumakain lang ako pag nagugutom. Which is really bad because im very thin alredy. Ive tried profan and various multivitamins and it seems to work in the beginning.. but once i get used to it, balik nanaman ako sa bad eating habits ko. Plus, im working in a callcenter so pabago bago ang work schedule. And to add to the problems i have, i havent really checked with a doctor but i think i have a really high metabilosm rating. I know for a fact that i need to take in more to gain more.. I mean i eat lots but i dont gain weight. Help!

[hint-of-lime]

anong mga roids makukuha mo, PM me naman, last time i use is testo. enanthate, i didn't use any combination jus test E. only, may makukuha ka pa ba nito??? thanx

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Careful with the 'roids dudes! Those things are serious stuff with a lot of side effects!

 

Encyclopedia of Sports Medicine and Science

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ANABOLIC STEROIDS: Side Effects

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Harm Kuipers, M.D., Ph.D.

Department of Physiology

University of Limburg

P.O. Box 616

6200MD Maastricht

The Netherlands

 

Kuipers, H. (1998). Anabolic steroids: side effects. In: Encyclopedia of Sports Medicine and Science, T.D.Fahey (Editor). Internet Society for Sport Science: http://sportsci.org. 7 March 1998.

 

 

Anabolic steroids (AS) are effective in enhancing athletic performance. The trade off, however, is the occurrence of adverse side effects which can jeopardize health. Since AS have effects on several organ systems, a myriad of side effects can be found. In general, the orally administered AS have more adverse effects than parenterally administered AS. In addition, the type of AS is not only important for the advantageous effects, but also for the adverse effects. Especially the AS containing a 17-alkyl group have potentially more adverse affects, in particular to the liver. One of the problems with athletes, in particular strength athletes and bodybuilders, is the use of oral and parenteral AS at the same time ("stacking"), and in dosages which may be several (up to 40 times) the recommended therapeutical dosage. The frequency and severity of side effects is quite variable. It depends on several factors such as type of drug, dosage, duration of use and the individual sensitivity and response.

 

Liver Function

 

AS may exert a profound adverse effect on the liver. This is particularly true for orally administered AS. The parenterally administered AS seem to have less serious effects on the liver. Testosterone cypionate, testosterone enanthate and other injectable anabolic steroids seem to have little adverse effects on the liver. However, lesions of the liver have been reported after parenteral nortestosterone administration, and also occasionally after injection of testosterone esters. The influence of AS on liver function has been studied extensively. The majority of the studies involve hospitalized patients who are treated for prolonged periods for various diseases, such as anemia, renal insufficiency, impotence, and dysfunction of the pituitary gland. In clinical trials, treatment with anabolic steroids resulted in a decreased hepatic excretory function. In addition, intra hepatic cholestasis, reflected by itch and jaundice, and hepatic peliosis were observed. Hepatic peliosis is a hemorrhagic cystic degeneration of the liver, which may lead to fibrosis and portal hypertension. Rupture of a cyst may lead to fatal bleeding.

 

Benign (adenoma's) and malign tumors (hepatocellular carcinoma) have been reported. There are rather strong indications that tumors of the liver are caused when the anabolic steroids contain a 17-alpha-alkyl group. Usually, the tumors are benign adenoma's, that reverse after stopping with steroid administration. However, there are some indications that administration of anabolic steroids in athletes may lead to hepatic carcinoma. Often these abnormalities remain asymptomatic, since peliosis hepatis and liver tumors do not always result in abnormalities in the blood variables that are generally used to measure liver function.

 

AS use is often associated with an increase in plasma activity of liver enzymes such as aspartate aminotransferase (AST), alanine aminotransferase (ALT), alkaline phosphatase (AP), lactate dehydrogenase (LDH), and gamma glutamyl transpeptidase (GGT). These enzymes are present in hepatocytes in relatively high concentrations, and an increase in plasma levels of these enzymes reflect hepatocellular damage or at least increased permeability of the hepatocellular membrane.

 

In longitudinal studies of athletes treated with anabolic steroids, contradictory results were obtained on the plasma activity of liver enzymes (AST, AST, LDH, GGT, AP). In some studies, enzymes were increased, whereas in others no changes were found. When increases were found, the values were moderately increased and normalized within weeks after abstinence. There are some suggestions that the occurrence of hepatic enzyme leakage, is partly determined by the pre-treatment condition of the liver. Therefore, individuals with abnormal liver function appear to be at risk.

 

Anabolic Steroids and the Male Reproductive System

 

AS are derivatives of testosterone, which has strong genitotropic effects. For this reason, it will not be surprising that side effects include the reproductive system. Application of anabolic steroids leads to supra-physiological concentrations of testosterone or testosterone derivatives. Via the feed back loop, the production and release of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle stimulation hormone (FSH) is decreased.

 

Prolonged use of anabolic steroids in relatively high doses will lead to hypogonadotrophic hypogonadism, with decreased serum concentrations of LH, FSH, and testosterone.

 

There are strong indications that the duration, dosage, and chemical structure of the anabolic steroids are important for the serum concentrations of gonadotropins. A moderate decrease of gonadotropin secretion causes atrophy of the testes, as well as a decrease of sperm cell production. Oligo, azoospermia and an increased number of abnormal sperm cells have been reported in athletes using AS, resulting in a decreased fertility. After stopping AS use, the gonadal functions will restore within some months. There are indications, however, that it may take several months.

 

In bodybuilding, where usually high dosages are uses, after stopping steroid use, often choriogonadotropins are administered to stimulate testicular function. The effectiveness of this therapy is unknown.

 

The various studies suggest that using more than one type of anabolic steroid at the same time ("stacking") causes a stronger inhibition of the gonadal functions than using one single anabolic steroid. After abstention from anabolic steroids these changes in fertility usually reverse within some months. However, several cases of have been reported in which the situation of hypogonadism lasted for more than 12 weeks.

 

A well known side effect of AS in males is breast formation (gynecomastia). Gynecomastia is caused by increased levels of circulating estrogens, which are typical female sex hormones. The estrogens estradiol and estrone are formed in males by peripheral aromatization and conversion of AS. The increased levels of circulation estrogens in males stimulate breast growth. In general, gynecomastia is irreversible.

 

AS may affect sexual desire. Although few investigations on this issue have been published, it appears that during AS use sexual desire is increased, although the frequency of erectile dysfunction is increased. This may seem contradictory, but sexual appetite is androgen dependent, while erectile function is not. Since sexual desire and aggressiveness are increased during AS use, the risk of getting involved in sexual assault may be increased.

 

Anabolic Steroids and the Female Reproductive System

 

In the normal female body small amounts of testosterone are produced, and as in males, artificially increasing levels by administration of AS will affect the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis. An increase in circulating androgens will inhibit the production and release of LH and FSH, resulting in a decline in serum levels of LH, FSH, estrogens and progesterone. This may result in inhibition of follicle formation, ovulation, and irregularities of the menstrual cycle. The irregularities of the menstrual cycle are characterized by a prolongation of the follicular phase, shortening of the luteal phase or amenorrhea. Although these changes are generally more pronounced in younger women, large inter-individual responsiveness to anabolic steroids exists. The effects of AS dosages as generally used in sport, on the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis in females are hardly studied.

 

Other side effects of anabolic steroid use in females are increased sexual desire and hypertrophy of the clitoris. The few systematic studies that have been conducted suggest that the effects are similar to the effects in patients, treated with anabolic steroids.

 

Anabolic steroid use by pregnant women may lead to pseudohermaphroditism or to growth retardation of the female fetus. Anabolic steroid use may even lead to fetal death. However, these side effects have not been studied systematically. It is likely that the severity of the side effects is related to the dosage, duration of use and the type of the drug.

 

Additional side effects of anabolic steroids specifically in women are acne, hair loss, withdrawal of the frontal hair line, male pattern boldness, lowering of the voice, increased facial hair growth, and breast atrophy. The lowering of the voice, decreased breast size, clitoris hypertrophy and hair loss are generally irreversible. Females using AS may develop masculine facial traits, male muscularity, and coarsening of the skin.

 

When anabolic steroids are administered in growing children side effects include virilization, gynecomastia, and premature closure of the epiphysis, resulting in cessation of longitudinal growth.

 

Serum Lipoproteins and the Cardiovascular System

 

AS also affect the cardiovascular system and the serum lipid profile. Relatively few studies have been done to investigate the effect of anabolic steroids on the cardiovascular system. No longitudinal studies have been conducted on the effect of anabolic steroids on cardiovascular morbidity and mortality.

 

Most of the investigations have been focused on risk factors for cardiovascular diseases, and in particular the effect of anabolic steroids on blood pressure and on plasma lipoproteins. In most cross-sectional studies serum cholesterol and triglycerides between drug-free users and non-users is not different. However, during anabolic steroid use total cholesterol tends to increase, while HDL-cholesterol demonstrates a marked decline, well below the normal range. Serum LDL-cholesterol shows a variable response: a slight increase or no change. The response of total cholesterol seems to be influenced by the type of training that is done by the athlete. When a great deal of the exercise consists of aerobic exercise, the increasing effect of AS is counterbalanced by an exercise-induced increasing effect, which may result in a net decline in total cholesterol. Aerobic training does not seem to be able to offset the steroid-induced decline in HDL-cholesterol and its subfractions HDL-2, and HDL-3.

 

The precise effect of anabolic steroids on LDL-cholesterol is unknown yet. It appears that anabolic steroids influence hepatic triglyceride lipase (HTL) and lipoprotein lipase (LPL). Males usually have higher levels of HTL, while females have higher LPL activity. HTL is primarily responsible for the clearance of HDL-cholesterol, while LPL takes care of cellular uptake of free fatty acids and glycerol. Androgens and anabolic steroids stimulate HTL, presumably resulting in decreased serum levels of HDL-cholesterol.

 

The effect of anabolic steroids on triglycerides is not well known. It is suggested that relatively low doses do not affect the serum triglyceride levels, while it cannot be excluded that higher doses elicit an increase.

 

No unanimity exists about the influence of anabolic steroids on arterial blood pressure. The response is most probably dose dependent. There is some data suggesting that high doses increase diastolic blood pressure, whereas low doses fail to have a significant effect on diastolic blood pressure. Increases in diastolic blood pressure normalize within 6-8 weeks after abstinence from anabolic steroids. It appears that repeated intermittent use of anabolic steroids does not affect diastolic blood pressure during drug free periods.

 

There is evidence that the use of anabolic steroids does elicit structural changes in the heart and that the ischemic tolerance is decreased after steroid use. Echocardiographic studies in bodybuilders, using anabolic steroids, reported a mild hypertrophy of the left ventricle, with a decreased diastolic relaxation, resulting in a decreased diastolic filling. Some investigators have associated cardiomyopathy, myocardial infarction, and cerebro-vascular accidents with abuse of anabolic steroids. However, a possible causal relationship could not been proved, because longitudinal studies that are necessary to prove such a relationship, have not been conducted yet. There is convincing evidence that oral administration of anabolic steroids has stronger adverse effects on the mentioned variables than parenteral administration.

 

Although the effects of anabolic steroids have an unfavorable influence on the risk factors for cardiovascular disease, no data are available about the long term effects. Most of the mentioned effects appear to reverse within 6-8 weeks after abstention. It is unknown, however, whether the structural changes as reported in the heart, are reversible as well.

 

Psychological Effects

 

Administration of AS may affect behavior. Increased testosterone levels in the blood are associated with masculine behavior, aggressiveness and increased sexual desire. Increased aggressiveness may be beneficial for athletic training, but may also lead to overt violence outside the gym or the track. There are reports of violent, criminal behavior in individuals taking AS. Other side effects of AS are euphoria, confusion, sleeping disorders, pathological anxiety, paranoia, and hallucinations.

 

Anabolic steroid users may become dependent on the drug, with symptoms of withdrawal after cessation of drug use. The withdrawal symptoms consist of aggressive and violent behavior, mental depression with suicidal behavior, mood changes, and in some cases acute psychosis. At present it is unknown which individuals are particularly at risk. It is likely that great individual differences in responsiveness may exist. Some individuals try to minimize the withdrawal affects by administration of human choriogonadotropins (hCG), in order to enhance endogenous testosterone production. However, it is unknown in how far the hCG administration is successful in ameliorating the withdrawal effects.

 

Additional Side Effects

 

In addition to the mentioned side effects several others have been reported. In both males and females acne are frequently reported, as well as hypertrophy of sebaceous glands, increased tallow excretion, hair loss, and alopecia. There is some evidence that anabolic steroid abuse may affect the immune system, leading to a decreased effectiveness of the defense system. Steroid use decreases the glucose tolerance, while there is an increase in insulin resistance. These changes mimic Type II diabetes. These changes seem to be reversible after abstention from the drugs.

 

There are some case reports suggesting a causal relationship between anabolic steroid use and the occurrence of Wilms tumor, and prostatic carcinoma. In the literature also sleep apnea has been reported, which has been associated with AS-induced increased in hematocrit, leading to blood stasis and thrombosis.

 

AS use may affect thyroid function. Administration of AS has been found to decrease thyroid stimulation hormone (TSH), and the products of the thyroid gland. In addition, thyroid binding globulin (TBG). These changes reversed within weeks after discontinuation of AS use.

 

A serious consequence of AS use may be the multiple drug abuse. On the one hand athletes use different kinds of drugs in an attempt to counterbalance the side effects: hCG, thyroid hormones, anti-estrogens, anti-depressants. On the other hand people try to support the anabolic effects of AS by using additional anabolic hormones as for instance: different types of AS at the same time, growth hormone, insulin, erythropoietine, and clenbuterol. Because most of this takes place outside the official medical circuit, it is likely that these practices may lead to serious conditions.

 

References

 

1. Alen, M., P. Rahkila. Anabolic-androgenic steroid effects on endocrinology and lipid metabolism in athletes. Sports Med. 6: 327-332, 1988

 

2. American College of Sports Medicine. Position stand on the use of anabolic-androgenic steroids in sport. Med. Sci. Sports Exerc. 19(5): 534-539, 1987

 

3. Bahrke, M.S., C.E. Yesalis, J.E. Wright. Psychological and behavioral effects of endogenous testosterone levels and anabolic-androgenic steroids among athletes; a review. Sports Med. 10(5): 303-337, 1990

 

4. Cohen, J.C., R. Hickman. Insulin resistance and diminished glucose tolerance in power lifters ingesting anabolic steroids. J. Clin. Endocrinol. Metab. 64: 960-963, 1987

 

5. De Piccoli, B., F. Giada, A. Benettin, F. Sartori, E. Piccolo. Anabolic steroid use in body builders: an echocardiographic study of left ventricular morphology and function. Int. J. Sports Med. 12(4): 408-412, 1991

 

6. Haupt, H.A. Anabolic steroids and growth hormone. Am. J. Sports Med. 21(3): 468-474, 1993

 

7. Wilson, J.D. Androgen abuse in athletes. Endocr. Rev. 9(2): 181-199, 1988

 

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[r0bin]

hi guys! i need your help!

 

Can you suggest any supplements that can help boost my appetite? I mean my eating habit is bad. Kumakain lang ako pag nagugutom. Which is really bad because im very thin alredy. Ive tried profan and various multivitamins and it seems to work in the beginning.. but once i get used to it, balik nanaman ako sa bad eating habits ko. Plus, im working in a callcenter so pabago bago ang work schedule. And to add to the problems i have, i havent really checked with a doctor but i think i have a really high metabilosm rating. I know for a fact that i need to take in more to gain more.. I mean i eat lots but i dont gain weight. Help!

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parehas tayo pre. medyo tamad ako kumain kelangan asikasuhin pa ni yaya hehehehe

 

ang ginawa ko eh bumili na lng ako ng weight gain powder. beverage to pre and ul be full dahil kakainom. sa gnc to

[Dreman]

parehas tayo pre. medyo tamad ako kumain kelangan asikasuhin pa ni yaya hehehehe

 

ang ginawa ko eh bumili na lng ako ng weight gain powder. beverage to pre and ul be full dahil kakainom. sa gnc to

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Thanks for the reminder. I need to punch myself in the head. I actually bought a huge weight gain powder bucket alredy at healthy options but i dont drink it. Maybe its a psychological problem. HAhaha. I guess the real question i should be asking is : what supplements do u recommend to boost my eating habits greatly? Except for cannabis. hehehe

[Guest k....]

anyone here heard of ZMA?

[Jack_ryan]

Does anyone experience being hungrier after taking ON 100% Whey ? Actually I stopped (got sick and couldn't do any weights training). But when i took it before, I'm always hungry. I take it 30 mins before breakfast, an hour and a half before workout (around 5:30 in the afternoon), within 30 mins. after workout and before going to bed. I noticed that i ate more at breakfast and lunch than when i wasn't taking ON.

I don't take heavy dinner. Just a fruit or cracker along with ON.

 

Nothing bad is happening. Mas gutom lang ako when I take it.

[r0bin]

Does anyone experience being hungrier after taking ON 100% Whey ?  Actually I stopped (got sick and couldn't do any weights training). But when i took it before, I'm always hungry.  I take it  30 mins before breakfast, an hour and a half before workout (around 5:30 in the afternoon),  within 30 mins. after workout and before going to bed. I noticed that i ate more at breakfast  and lunch than when i wasn't taking ON.

I don't take heavy dinner. Just a fruit or cracker along with ON.

 

Nothing bad is happening. Mas gutom lang ako when I take it.

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im also taking On's and i experienced the same gutom u r saying but i think it's primarily because of tiredness going to the gym. i dont think it's bec of On's whey in my case

[unzipme]

bka may recommend lang kau

I'm planning to buy supplement this weekend, d ko lang alam kung Cell tech or ONs or kung may iba pang ok n brand.

based s mga nabasa ko, almost the same lang, I'm just thinking kung ano mas effective, advantage or disadvantage of this two..

 

Actually bumalik ako s workout 2 weeks ago, en nkaka 4 sessions n ko.. last ko is 2 yrs ago? hehe

I know my body, en mabilis madevelop ang muscle ko, actually gatas lang iniino ko. I havnt tried supplement. for the record, try ko lang this time para malaman ko kung ano ang effect s body ko.. thats why Im thinking of this 2 products. ur ideas are very much welcome..

salamat po.

[wyvern]

Read somewhere that creatine nakaka pimples, totoo ba eto?

[Guest k....]

Read somewhere that creatine nakaka pimples, totoo ba eto?

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my derma told me the same thing, but for some reason i've never had any more pimples than the usual..the genes, i guess..i really just take the creatine for the effect on endurance, lets me do more reps than when im not "fueled"

[noah]

Read somewhere that creatine nakaka pimples, totoo ba eto?

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never heard of this...i've used 3 different brands for the past 2 years but my usage of them never resulted to pimples...but then different folks, get different reactions....just my 2-cents..