floppydrive Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Check out these sites..... http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/cpairing.htm http://www.2basnob.com/wine-cheese-pairings.html http://www.wineintro.com/food/cheese/ I like manchego with a nice pinot, or a really rich triple cream brie with a nicely aged cabernet sauvignon. Parmiggiano reggiano or a nicely aged asiago with champagne or prosecco. Stilton/blue cheese with port. Mimolette with an easy going zin. But as all have noted, it's all aubjective. Our tastebuds are all a bit different, as our acquired tastes, so go experiment! Have fun doing it! That's what it's all about - the thrill of the unknown and the rhapsody of the perfect match.Nice site! Sabi na nga ba - cheddar does pair well with beer. Cheers! Regarding screw caps - I've been seeing a lot of Australian whites with screw caps instead of corks. Is Australia running low on natural cork? Some of the reds have a synthetic cork. The 3 years ago, some European company was selling a whole plastic cork production line in a German trade fair. Quote Link to comment
Spurt Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Definitely marketing making the difference here. From what I seem to recall, that was one of the reasons for the split - Robert wanted to grow the business and Peter wanted to be the "true winemaker". There's a Krug in Reims, France - and it does champagne. www.krug.com Reims is one the cities know =n for its champagne producers. The other is Epernay, at the other end of the champagne region. Moet & Chandon and Perrier-Jouet are among the top Epernay producers. Krug is one of Reims' best known houses. hi guys, back in manila again. i just would like to join in the discussion, krug is being sold by "olga" here. there are lots of wines coming in with screw cap - one i know from CA, skrewkappa, some don sebastiani, recently i heard this wines are available in highlands steak in MOA. Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 hi guys, back in manila again. i just would like to join in the discussion, krug is being sold by "olga" here. there are lots of wines coming in with screw cap - one i know from CA, skrewkappa, some don sebastiani, recently i heard this wines are available in highlands steak in MOA. Ah, yes. Screwkappanappa wines. Saw that when I was in a Nob Hill store just the other weekend. Didn't pick any up since I was leaving for my trip right the next weekend but I plan to give it a try when I return. As for that question as to why the screw caps or the synthetic corks? First - corks generally come fromthe south of rance where there are oak trees grown specifically for their cork production. Corks are made fromthe bark of the tree which is very thick and spongy. As far as I know, no other country produces natural corks. With the increase in wine consumption and the increase in wine production, the supply of corks is running low. Also, there is a phenomenon called "corking" (duh!!!) in which the cork is tainted with some bacteria and when in contact with the wine gives it a funky smell and taste, kinda like wet cardboard. Estimates are 1 in 10 bottles is corked. The taint runs from very mild and most people won't notice it, or care even even if they notice it, to rather offensive. Between that and cost and availability, the wine industry started looking for alternatives many years ago. Current alternatives are the totally synthetic corks made from recycled plastic, synthetics made from a synthetic core with a thin veneer of cork around it, and screw caps. Many winemakers in California feel that scwer caps are the way to go. Bonny Doon now produces some of its wine with screw caps. Plumpjack (a very high end winery that produces what are called "botique" wines) has started capping their top end wine with a screw cap. Many other CA wineries are following suit. I think that like it or not, this is the wave of the future and within 10 years, most wines will be screwcapped and only the really high end wines for collectors will use corks. I prefer corks despite the risk but one can't stop the tide of progress. ;( Oh well, as long as the i=wine remains good, I'll be okay! Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted March 20, 2007 Author Share Posted March 20, 2007 Ah, yes. Screwkappanappa wines. Saw that when I was in a Nob Hill store just the other weekend. Didn't pick any up since I was leaving for my trip right the next weekend but I plan to give it a try when I return. As for that question as to why the screw caps or the synthetic corks? First - corks generally come fromthe south of rance where there are oak trees grown specifically for their cork production. Corks are made fromthe bark of the tree which is very thick and spongy. As far as I know, no other country produces natural corks. Portugal, pare, also is a big producer of corks. Yes, can\t stem the tide of change. As long as the liquid inside is good, then I guess it's ok. Now for that Platypus Run 2001 Shiraz which I recently bought. This is all I can say - that platypus should have stayed in the bottom of that stream. The wine brought back memories of when I was just starting out with wine - bad bad bad. The wine is all wrong - no fruitiness, no finish and leaves a bitter aftertaste. Defininitely not recommended. :thumbsdownsmiley: Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted March 20, 2007 Author Share Posted March 20, 2007 hi guys, back in manila again. i just would like to join in the discussion, krug is being sold by "olga" here. there are lots of wines coming in with screw cap - one i know from CA, skrewkappa, some don sebastiani, recently i heard this wines are available in highlands steak in MOA. welcome back pare! we miss you here. Hope we can get together again.... Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Portugal, pare, also is a big producer of corks. Yes, can\t stem the tide of change. As long as the liquid inside is good, then I guess it's ok. Now for that Platypus Run 2001 Shiraz which I recently bought. This is all I can say - that platypus should have stayed in the bottom of that stream. The wine brought back memories of when I was just starting out with wine - bad bad bad. The wine is all wrong - no fruitiness, no finish and leaves a bitter aftertaste. Defininitely not recommended. :thumbsdownsmiley: Portugal? Didn't know that! That's my new thing learned for this day. Cool! I just have bad memories of wine in a box and how that was supposed to keep the wine fresher longer and so on. So that kinda drives my reaction to uncorks and other abominations. that and the fact that recycled plastic trends to outgas, and where do YOU think those toxic gases will go? Yup, you guessed it! right to your palate. So I guess screwcaps is it! BTW - there's a NEW wine-in-a-box. Haven't tried it yet, but I will come July 4th and my annual winefest and bad wine contest. Quote Link to comment
Spurt Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 welcome back pare! we miss you here. Hope we can get together again.... sure, tara! i'll be off to bora this holy week, i plan to bring my good bottles, hehe. i went to meet someone for lunch today, when i arrived, they ordered a bottle of two ocean (shiraz). i've checked and rechecked, the vintage is 2000! i did not made any comments. hehehe dito na lang. the resto is indian/asian/indonesian/chinese type. the wines are stored in a cabinet display, plus FTI sells that kind of wine on a bargain if its 2003 vintage, it should not be stored that long di ba? anyway, nakautang na naman ako tuloy ng tatlong bote - Amici Cab Sauv, Arrowood Syrah & merlot from the store i'm suppose to invite you guys. Quote Link to comment
igol ays Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Hi VG! There's a long-lost wino out in Vallejo as well - Eagleyes. He's been off the group for quite a while now! But welcome! I'm in the Bay Area as well, further down in Fremont. You're lucky that you're so much closer to Napa and Sonoma than I am. Makes for a good way to get to know wines in general.i'm still here; although i live a little further up the road from vallejo the wino description is spot on i've been busy as always, but a bit more so latelyi was on vacation (carribean cruise) the first week and a half of the month and when i got back to work on the 13th, i gave my notice to leave the company effective the end of the month. yes, i will go on a permanent vacation and retire early. the retirement coincides with the turnover of my condo unit (serendra, the fort). i will be on my way to manila about mid april. masi, i share agxo's sentiments. you should have called! Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 i'm still here; although i live a little further up the road from vallejo the wino description is spot on i've been busy as always, but a bit more so latelyi was on vacation (carribean cruise) the first week and a half of the month and when i got back to work on the 13th, i gave my notice to leave the company effective the end of the month. yes, i will go on a permanent vacation and retire early. the retirement coincides with the turnover of my condo unit (serendra, the fort). i will be on my way to manila about mid april. masi, i share agxo's sentiments. you should have called! You're retiring already? Good for you! I hope this doesn't mean you'll leave the area permanently! We haven't even had our EB here yet! I was hoping to do something when Masi comes over for vacation - soon? And I hear someone else from this group may be here in May or thereabouts. If that happens it will be cause for a day tour of one of the wine areas around here. Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Portugal? Didn't know that! That's my new thing learned for this day. Cool! I just have bad memories of wine in a box and how that was supposed to keep the wine fresher longer and so on. So that kinda drives my reaction to uncorks and other abominations. that and the fact that recycled plastic trends to outgas, and where do YOU think those toxic gases will go? Yup, you guessed it! right to your palate. So I guess screwcaps is it! BTW - there's a NEW wine-in-a-box. Haven't tried it yet, but I will come July 4th and my annual winefest and bad wine contest. Cork is a big industry in Portugal. Kaya nga with these new developments in wine closures medyo worried na mga tao dun. What will we do with all these oak barks? Another problem with cork is that it is expensive compared to screw caps and all those synthetic stoppers...A good thing with screwcaps is that you don't have to lug around with a cork screw Instinct tells me that that new wine-in-a-box you're saying belongs more properly to that annual bad- wine slugfest you have pare you've been talking about Livermore. Is the Altamont Speedway still there? Brings back memories of that ugly free concert by the Rolling Stones back in '69.....Hell's Angels, stabbings, drunken sprees, maulings, a senseless death, drugs galore, bad music.... Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 sure, tara! i'll be off to bora this holy week, i plan to bring my good bottles, hehe. i went to meet someone for lunch today, when i arrived, they ordered a bottle of two ocean (shiraz). i've checked and rechecked, the vintage is 2000! i did not made any comments. hehehe dito na lang. the resto is indian/asian/indonesian/chinese type. the wines are stored in a cabinet display, plus FTI sells that kind of wine on a bargain if its 2003 vintage, it should not be stored that long di ba? anyway, nakautang na naman ako tuloy ng tatlong bote - Amici Cab Sauv, Arrowood Syrah & merlot from the store i'm suppose to invite you guys. That 2000 Two Oceans should have been drunk a long time ago. I'm sure it had gone bland. That Arrowood sounds inviting hehehe kelan pare? Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 i'm still here; although i live a little further up the road from vallejo the wino description is spot on i've been busy as always, but a bit more so latelyi was on vacation (carribean cruise) the first week and a half of the month and when i got back to work on the 13th, i gave my notice to leave the company effective the end of the month. yes, i will go on a permanent vacation and retire early. the retirement coincides with the turnover of my condo unit (serendra, the fort). i will be on my way to manila about mid april. masi, i share agxo's sentiments. you should have called! that makes two of us on permanent vacation mode hope we can meet up together with the gang when you're here, pare... Quote Link to comment
igol ays Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 You're retiring already? Good for you! I hope this doesn't mean you'll leave the area permanently! We haven't even had our EB here yet! I was hoping to do something when Masi comes over for vacation - soon? And I hear someone else from this group may be here in May or thereabouts. If that happens it will be cause for a day tour of one of the wine areas around here.nah! will still keep the house here (at least for now). i'll just take advantage of philippine summers and try to visit as much of the philippines and philippine dive sites as possible. that makes two of us on permanent vacation mode hope we can meet up together with the gang when you're here, pare...looking forward to that :cool: Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 nah! will still keep the house here (at least for now). i'll just take advantage of philippine summers and try to visit as much of the philippines and philippine dive sites as possible.looking forward to that :cool: I'm sure we can hatch up something when you're here....we're just a PM away :cool: Quote Link to comment
storm Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I've been very busy lately. I'm preparing for a new show before we leave for the USA in May. Pero I can still manage to get out sa gabi just like last night when we attended the grand launch of Bonifacio High Streeet. The place is World class, ang ganda. The event was spectacular. The cocktails catered by CIBO was superb. They had an open bar until 11pm. They served mixed drinks, pilsens and light beer, gumamela iced tea, champaigne and of course chardonnay and cabs (Stone Cellars by Behringer). Quote Link to comment
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