Mixed Martial Arts

[Olympus]

i was talking from a PURE WRESTLING standpoint in the case of carwin and lesnar. it's definitely possible for an upset to occur (as i mentioned in my previous post) but also very unlikely to happen. your examples are good with regards to MMA, but my previous post had NOTHING to do with MMA. it was solely based on div1/div2 wrestling and the skill difference between the 2 divisions.

 

so being consistent with my previous post and referencing your mma examples of lower belts submitting higher belts, i'm going to put money on the black belt over the purple belt every time in a PURE BJJ grappling match.

 

MMA of course is a different story altogether as there are many more variables/factors to consider.

 

If we're talking on purist standpoints then yes, brock has the advantage...

 

but since we're on the topic of mma ( since the topic is MMA) then its a totally different story....

[geneticfreak]

let me just add a couple of more thoughts to this little wrestling in MMA discussion we're having here:

 

1) let us remember that when these guys got their NCAA titles they were basically training under their school's respective athletic programs.

 

We can only speculate that since moving into and making a career out of competing in MMA (more specifically MMA at the UFC level) they have only gotten better due to being adopted by really really good teams like AKA or ATT, Xtreme Couture and the like. So they have better training partners. They have better nutrition. They have better training overall... so that would make all their skills (their wrestling included) a heck of a lot better. Of course the level of improvement in each skill set is of course different from fighter to fighter.

 

2) Sometimes wrestling pedigree doesn't really decide who is the better wrestler in an MMA match.

 

Some of the best wrestlers in MMA never even competed in the NCAA, well some like Jon Bones Jones are Junior College Champs and some never even had a wrestling pedigree at all to begin with before even entering MMA. The most famous one of course being George Rush St Pierre, who never competed in wrestling in high school, or college but learned it while trying to improve his overall MMA game. He's gotten so good with his wrestling he has been asked to be part of his country's olympic wrestling team.

[El Chapo]

sana manalo ulit si Mark Muñoz at sana lalo pa sya gumaling

[JustSmile=)]

According to Yahoo Sports, Anderson Silva signed a new 8-fight deal with UFC..

 

Also, from the report, A.Silva mentioned that he has plan to fight 2 of those 8 in WW division..

 

My take on this, if GSP wont go up in weight class, Anderson will go down for the super fight to happen..

 

Two fights, Fitch and GSP? Maybe Shields (it's almost certain he will sign with UFC unless something really big happens with SF) after his fight with Hendo..

Edited April 8, 2010 by G_sKiLLz

[anatoly]

According to Yahoo Sports, Anderson Silva signed a new 8-fight deal with UFC..

 

Also, from the report, A.Silva mentioned that he has plan to fight 2 of those 8 in WW division..

 

My take on this, if GSP wont go up in weight class, Anderson will go down for the super fight to happen..

 

Two fights, Fitch and GSP? Maybe Shields (it's almost certain he will sign with UFC unless something really big happens with SF) after his fight with Hendo..

wow i can't believe this. silva moving down to WW?! i'm just really skeptical of such a move. silva is a fairly large middleweight. i heard he walks around 220+ which is why him fighting at LHW twice seemed quite logical. but him moving down to WW?? very questionable imho.

 

could you link the actual article from yahoo sports?? i tried searching it but got nothing.

[geneticfreak]

What a weekend.

 

We got UFC 112 in Abu Dhabi.

 

and we have the Pan American BJJ (Gi) Championships in California...

 

though I come from a different BJJ Team I wish the guys from VPF luck.

 

We are all pinoys after all.. :thumbsupsmiley:

[Igniz]

bukas ng madaling araw yung UFC 112, mga 1AM

[El Chapo]

ngayon ko lang napansin middleweight na pala si Mark Muñoz

[Igniz]

UFC 112 Picks

 

Anderson Silva

BJ Penn

Matt Hughes

Mark Munoz

[geneticfreak]

Well as much as I know BJ will probabbly win. My heart goes with Frankie Edgar on this one.

 

well I personally think it will be BJ's most competitive title defense so far seeing as how good Edgar's boxing is.

 

It would be interesting though if perhaps he could somehow take BJ down. that'll definitely change the complexion of the fight

into his favor a lil bit. But since GSP no one has ever really done it, so he probably won't be able to but i'm trying to be hopeful that perhaps he can pull it off.

Edited April 10, 2010 by geneticfreak

[Igniz]

start na UFC 112 sa Balls... si Munoz na lalaban, sila 1st fight

[Igniz]

Big win for MARK Munoz!!!!! Round 2, TKO

Edited April 10, 2010 by Igniz

[Igniz]

round 2 win for Dos anjos - submission

[Igniz]

round 1 win for Davis - submission

[anatoly]

really, really great fights so far. but that streak is about to end with hughes vs gracie lol

never realized how heavy munoz's hands were in top position. man those were brutal. great win also by mr wonderful. i got high hopes for that guy.