geneticfreak Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 One more thing about how the long layoff might have affected Brock has to do with how much weight he might have cut to make it to 265. Fighters usually have a steady walking weight from which they cut down into... a layoff will probably increase the walking weight by some amount (though of course it's kinda hard to tell when someone's as big as Brock Lesnar) and this might have been the motivation for Brock to try out a new diet. Also the comment made about Brock trying to go southpaw... it shouts out very clearly that he's thinking 'takedown first' rather than throw leather first (ala Matt Hughes in the third fight of his trilogy with GSP). So it would be very interesting to see indeed if he employs such a strategy against Carwin. Quote Link to comment
anatoly Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 (edited) yup you're correct. that was the logic behind brock training southpaw. it's no secret that he wants to put carwin on his back. as his previous fights have shown, he has won most of them via GNP so it's understandable for him to want to take the fight to the ground. here's the link to the whole southpaw game plan if you're interested (or anyone else for that matter)http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/7/1/1546950/ufc-116-preview-brock-lesnar#storyjump cheers! Edited July 3, 2010 by jimmii Quote Link to comment
fatso8 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Picks:BrockAkiyamaBrownBonnarGeorge S. Quote Link to comment
pogi1119 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 I sorta expected Brock will win on the ground though I really hoped Carwin would KO him standing .... Quote Link to comment
howarddeduct Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Napagod sa kakasuntok si Carwin! Quote Link to comment
moli_calingasan Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Brock is the baddest man in the planet!!!! Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 salamat sa isang case ng beer brock! Quote Link to comment
howarddeduct Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Brock vs. Terminator na Quote Link to comment
anatoly Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 (edited) wow...lesnar what a tough SOB!!! hahahaha..i'm thrilled he won after battling a life threatening illness and especially how he was getting owned by carwin in the 1st. i was sure he was gonna get stopped, but man he hung in there. full credit to him (and jake rosenthal for not stopping it). looks like cain is next, that should be another great fight. i think brock needs to work a ton on his standup/boxing though, he just didn't look confident on his feet and that was the main reason why carwin almost finished him. i was pretty impressed with leben pulling off a triangle against sexyama and equally disappointed that sexyama gassed after the 1st round. but again, props to the crippler. he took the fight on really, really short notice (basically 2 weeks) and his ground game has improved a lot since the last time i saw him fight. soti is the real deal. he has defeated 2 top level lightweights now in joe daddy and batman. i really thought batman would come out victorious because of his superior wrestling but soti's ground game is just unreal. what makes his 2 previous victories so impressive is that he's outclassed 2 bjj blackbelts. WOW. maybe we'll see him fight the winner of gray maynard vs kenflo at 118. that would be a sick matchup but we'll have to wait and see. happy for stephan bonnar as well. thought he was robbed of a victory in his previous fight against soszynski. his stoppage win was very much welcome. as usual matt brown lost via submission. 7 of his 9 losses have been via sub so it wasn't a surprise that he got submitted. AGAIN. great card overall. now it's time for anderson silva to be dumped on his head! can't wait to seem him lose. Edited July 4, 2010 by jimmii Quote Link to comment
geneticfreak Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 On the Brock/Carwin fight: "Who would've thunk it?!!" kudos to Brock for showing a vast improvement to his jiu jitsu (and to Chris Leben and Chris Lytle too) Quote Link to comment
CorpseGrinder Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 UFC 116 picks Brock LesnarChris LebenChris LytleStephen BonnarGeorge Sotiropolous when will other people learn to respect Brock? am i the only one here thinks that he'll hold the belt for a very long time? geez, i don't see cain velasquez beating brck, Lesnar will just toy him around and throw him easily anytime on the ring with that huge body... 5 out of 5 winners this time for me. damn, i so good in mma... Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 aahahahah... ring rust what? training is very important! and that shows that Brocks Stamina is Great eventhough he absorbed a lot of punches! hahahhaa. WWE WHAT? thats MMA! hahahaha. Quote Link to comment
infekted Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 when will other people learn to respect Brock? am i the only one here thinks that he'll hold the belt for a very long time? geez, i don't see cain velasquez beating brck, Lesnar will just toy him around and throw him easily anytime on the ring with that huge body... 5 out of 5 winners this time for me. damn, i so good in mma... don't forget the long lay off, life threatening illness, lack of experience, untested chin and he was still able to get the job done. Quote Link to comment
geneticfreak Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 The Akiyama/Leben fight and certainly the Lesnar/Carwin fight only emphasizes again what beauty there is in MMA and that is given the multitude of techniques, of game plans and strategies there are in it 'ANYTHING' and I mean anything is possible. I mean who would have predicted that the outcomes would have been like that. Either of the two fights could have gone either way. Had Akiyama held on I believe he would have gotten the nod from the judges, if either Carwin didn't punch himself out during that flurry he unleashed in the first or there had been a different referee Brock could have easily lost that fight. And please don't go diminishing the capabilities of a Cain Velasquez who's next in line at Brock... The foregone conclusion here that Brock simply is gonna toy with him due to his size advantage is really misguided. Remember 'AGAIN' it's MMA and anything can happen. If Cain decides to dance around Brock and pick his shots and not get in a clinch with him Brock can't use that size to his advantage and he won't be able to ragdoll him as some people here think. Carwin's advantage over Brock was his standup and his punching power (and it nearly got him the win). Cain's will be his speed and again his striking. I am looking forward to Brock's next title defense and as I've said kudos to him. kudos for learning jiu jitsu and accepting that there were areas for improvement he had to work on and accepted those. How Carwin lost was a tad bit similar to how Fedor lost last week. One of the caveats of BJJ is when caught in a hold you react as quickly as possible to create space you don't relax and stay in. A bit of overconfidence in Carwin thinking he had room to work and escape that choke cost him big time. Quote Link to comment
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