Mixed Martial Arts

[anatoly]

some neat gifs from ufc 115

 

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/ufc-115-teh-gifs-1230105/

[CorpseGrinder]

it's over for the iceman. jesus, nice comeback win from franklin. i really like that guy. amazing win by crocop too... i'm just a little disappointed that thiago lost.

[The_Blade]

el nino.. ice has melted...

[chuckliddell]

chuck is done..

[JustSmile=)]

Awesome career by Chuck.. I'm sure UFC with Dana will take care of him but what I do not want is to see him fight elsewhere and end up like some washed-up fighters fighting in Japan..

 

Dana, Lorenzo and the whole UFC owes him a lot.. especially when Chuck was representing UFC in Pride..

 

Great career Chuck, it's been fun..

 

Oh and if he does not want to retire, I would not mind one last fight with Tito (if he can comeback from his 2nd spinal fusion surgery)

[Xygrus]

i guess that was it for the iceman.

Edited June 14, 2010 by Xygrus

[l3663l]

what if natuloy na si ortiz ang lumaban kay iceman? ganun pa rin kaya ung result?

[kuya willie]

Chuck is Done. His punches looked good but rest of him looked old,He couldn't get out of the way of any of Franklin's slow ass punches. Nice win for Crocop, still have a few fights in him!

[geneticfreak]

Chuck has just been figured out... and he has been for a while now. The Quinton fight showed it and the Rashad fight put more emphasis to it. Just as Rich Franklin stated during the post fight interview. Every single time Chuck thinks his opponent is on the run he 'over' commits to trying to land the finishing shot and that is when he is vulnerable to a counter. He might have worked more on his wrestling and his bjj for the Franklin fight but when it came to his standup and that particular aspect of his standup that didn't change and Rich simply took advantage of it once again. I actually thought Chuck was in the very best shape of his life for that fight it's just that he has been figured out and old habits do die hard.

 

Nice win by Martin Kampmann indeed, very good on the head arm control nearly got thiago in an arm triangle a lotta times. Kudos also to Carlos Condit for coming back strong and narrowly escaping defeat.

 

Pat Barry's jiu jitsu sucks big time though... tsk tsk... during the second round when he had control of Cro cop's overhook and Crocop had his back to the fence he could have easily spun towards him and end up on top of Crocop, in his guard... and that rear naked choke Crocop sank in the third (well he was a bit dazed from all the punches he took) but man he didn't even have a single hook in to help sink the choke. He has to work really really really hard on his ground fighting skills to even have a chance to break into the upper echelon of the Heavyweight division. Anybody from Brock,to Mir,to Cain,to Carwin any of those guys would k*ll him, heck even Ben Rothwell would k*ll him due to his lack of jiu jitsu skill.

[orionquest]

too bad chuck lost. i think if he hadnt ran straight to franklin's punch, he'll win by decision bec he hurt franklin's shoulder with a high leg kick and caught him with a few straights, he was even leading on the scorecard when he got knocked out flat cold. i think he should retire.

[prutkeyk]

pretty good card overall.

 

i was really impressed by martin kampmann. i honestly though thiago would win via decision. i never realized how good kampmann's ground game was, wow. and his striking was top notch, thiago clearly was at a big disadvantage standing up. props to kampmann on a great performance.

 

crocop finally wins one convincingly! pat barry must be kicking himself right now for not pouncing on crocop the 2nd time he dropped him. i actually think barry was at a huge disadvantage to begin with because he loves crocop too much, he just showed too much respect. credit crocop though for mixing things up as well. barry went into the fight expecting an all out stand up war and crocop secured (imho) the 2nd round by taking him down. not to mention the final seconds of the fight, barry was expecting punches and was totally unaware of the sub. props to crocop. loved his post fight interview as well hahaha what a riot.

 

man chuck liddell's chin has been shot to s@%t. very disappointing comeback, i was really hoping he'd get the W. sad thing is i thought he was actually winning the fight. couple that with the fact that franklin's arm was broke and he had a good chance of winning. however, he was getting caught by a lot of punches throughout so i guess it was only a matter of time until one hit him good on the chin.

 

i just hope chuck doesn't say something like "i was doing well until i got caught" which he said after his fight against evans. the problem with chuck is he gets caught all the time. his chin isn't what it used to be...as sad as it sounds, i really think it's time for him to call it quits.

 

still i am not yet convinced with crocop's win. nagkataon kasi di marunong sa ground yung kalaban. pero kung sina shogun / evans kalaban nya, for sure quit na sya sa UFC. (just my honest opinion)

 

these undercards are great:

 

Carlos Condit vs. Rory MacDonald

Paulo Thiago vs. Martin Kampmann

[JustSmile=)]

still i am not yet convinced with crocop's win. nagkataon kasi di marunong sa ground yung kalaban. pero kung sina shogun / evans kalaban nya, for sure quit na sya sa UFC. (just my honest opinion)

 

these undercards are great:

 

Carlos Condit vs. Rory MacDonald

Paulo Thiago vs. Martin Kampmann

Bro, Cro Cop is HW, Shogun and Evans are LHW..

 

Im sure UFC will renew his contract and I would love to see a rematch with Gonzaga..

[geneticfreak]

Apart from Barry's obvious lack of ground skills. The first couple of times he knocked Crocop down he really should have just swarmed on him. This was just simply a case of either too much respect (or admiration) for your opponent in this case or perhaps someone being over satisfied with the knowledge that 'ok,i knocked him down easy in the first few minutes -- this one's in the bag' a lack of killer instinct IMO.

 

Crocop obviously has lost a step and has problems with the bigger,stronger,more explosive and more athletic heavyweights. The Junior Dos Santos fight showed a staggering disparity in terms of speed between the two fighters and again in this Barry fight getting knocked down emphatically twice in the first few minutes just tells you he really isn't the same fighter. Either he's just a lot more cautious now (after that headkick KO loss to Gonzaga) or it's just age and wear and tear. Whatever the case though he is still one of my all time faves and I pray that he still has a successful run in his remaining fights in the UFC though I seriously doubt if he'll ever be in title contention again.

[anatoly]

yeah a rematch between gonzaga and crocop would be fun! both guys are trying to resurrect their careers, though neither are contenders and proly never will be for the ufc. about crocop, the famous 'right kick hospital, left kick cemetery' is long gone. i can't see that happening, not now, not in the future, not ever. everyone knows its coming. that's basically all you have to train for lol.

 

crocop's physical gifts may have diminished somewhat, but as far as skills are concerned he hasn't really changed since his days in pride imho. just as pat barry has stated on numerous occassions, it's not that crocop has lost his skillset or anything, but moreso that the competition has gotten much better over the years. but of course it could easily be a combination of both.

 

on another note, the welterweight division has some pretty exciting fights coming up. obviously you have two of the best wrestlers squaring off in the year end finale (can't wait to start watching the TUF eps), then you have alves vs fitch that's been talked about since forever and maybe somewhere down the road we'll have a rematch between kampmann and condit OR hardy vs kampmann OR hardy vs. condit. either way lots of great fights up ahead!

[anatoly]

here's a look at the UFC heavyweight champ working out with randy the natural couture.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quyrh-oVO-4

Edited June 19, 2010 by jimmii