China Vs United States War And Its Effects (The Huawei Scandal)

[daphne loves derby]

 

Do you really think US will do anything about the boat ramming/collision incident?

 

I will bet my last centavo it's nothing but talk just to fan the flames of gullible pinoys' emotions.

 

well they can use that incident as an "excuse" to impose more penalties or sanctions to China para hindi masyadong halata yung mga agenda nila vs China

[shadowkiller]

I think that the US will ride with any issues that they could use to escalate their need to go to war. Just like what happened with Iraq, where they accused Iraq with weapons of mass destruction - they just used that as an excuse for them to invade Iraq, They are just lurking around waiting for China to make a very big mistake.

[combatjames]

That's the short term benefit. They'll be too busy fighting each other to bother us.

 

The long term benefit ? None.

 

The long term impact is that we will face a huge destabilized nation who can't control itself, its people in migrating in droves, or worse, exporting their anarchy into their neighboring countries.

Apparently HK used to contribute up to 27% of PROC’s GDP, during its peak, just before the handover. Thus, PROC in its quest to assure that HK remains productive, agreed to the one nation two systems till 2049 to make sure HK is able to maintain is way of life which so happens to be productive. More recently though, we can also witness PROC asserting its authority in HK again, arguably in subtle but bolder and bolder ways. Some commentators says, its because from that high of 27% contribution of HK, its now down to mere 3%. Its not that HK declined to the abyss but its just that more and more PROC cities have risen up - ie Chongqing, Shanghai, Shenzhen and others.

 

I guess my point is, these very diverse cities with tens of millions of populations and with humongous GDP values can be smaller nations relative to entire PROC and they themselves may possibly end up competing with each other. Shihuangdi, did all he can to unite china because he recognized that being united gives them more strength - thereby making the surrounding nations weaker. I think the flip side is also true, that is if the central government is weakened, the CCP with it, then the surrounding nations can more easily rise up. My thought is more mid strength nations vs one super strong nation is more beneficial. Same principle with economics, that is why the goal of government really is to enlarge the middle class. Otherwise, one ends up with monopoly/duopoly/oligarchy as the case may be.

 

Another example is what happened to USSR after the early 90’s. There are former USSR member states that went leaps and bounds because of the collapse.

[camiar]

Apparently HK used to contribute up to 27% of PROC’s GDP, during its peak, just before the handover. Thus, PROC in its quest to assure that HK remains productive, agreed to the one nation two systems till 2049 to make sure HK is able to maintain is way of life which so happens to be productive. More recently though, we can also witness PROC asserting its authority in HK again, arguably in subtle but bolder and bolder ways. Some commentators says, its because from that high of 27% contribution of HK, its now down to mere 3%. Its not that HK declined to the abyss but its just that more and more PROC cities have risen up - ie Chongqing, Shanghai, Shenzhen and others.

 

I guess my point is, these very diverse cities with tens of millions of populations and with humongous GDP values can be smaller nations relative to entire PROC and they themselves may possibly end up competing with each other. Shihuangdi, did all he can to unite china because he recognized that being united gives them more strength - thereby making the surrounding nations weaker. I think the flip side is also true, that is if the central government is weakened, the CCP with it, then the surrounding nations can more easily rise up. My thought is more mid strength nations vs one super strong nation is more beneficial. Same principle with economics, that is why the goal of government really is to enlarge the middle class. Otherwise, one ends up with monopoly/duopoly/oligarchy as the case may be.

 

Another example is what happened to USSR after the early 90’s. There are former USSR member states that went leaps and bounds because of the collapse.

 

Well said.

 

But after the hypothetical collapse of a CCP-controlled PROC, the rise of one strong Chinese state amid weaker states will take decades to stabilize. In the meantime, the chaos will destabilize the South East Asian Region.

 

On the other hand, in this age of modern communication technology, the CCP can better govern, unite, and control the PROC than its past kings ad emperors did during the age of imperial China. In fact, the communication networking technology today is moving towards the capability to govern the entire world. There is a higher probability that China will rise to control at least half of the World (i.e One strong Asian continent amid lesser or weaker continents.)

Edited July 1, 2019 by camiar

[khantan]

There will be no war with China. Not because the current administration is not interested in supporting its friends in Southeast Asia, but because USA can no longer support its allies.

 

Filipinos should wake up and accept the fact. We are on our own if we take on China.

Reminds me of what US did during the bay of pigs invasion at Cuba.

[johnlove]

Imho, US picked on Huawei because they can't accept the fact that Huawei comes ahead in the 5g race.

As early as last year, Chinese netizens were already using 5g technology.

[camiar]

US believe that China is using Huawei to spy on US and steal military technology.

 

If I were the US government, I'd pick on Huawei, too.

[MykG2G]

Inst that actually they are doing?

US believe that China is using Huawei to spy on US and steal military technology.

 

If I were the US government, I'd pick on Huawei, too.

[camiar]

Inst that actually they are doing?

 

US believe that China is using Huawei to spy on US and steal military technology.

 

If I were the US government, I'd pick on Huawei, too.

 

 

Read again and understand my post. Hint: see the bold print.

Edited July 7, 2019 by camiar

[Bogs26c4u]

i think its about who'll win the 5G war and US knows that Huawei is leading the pack so far and they are lagging behind. Whoever leads the 5G revolution will be very powerful and US is afraid that they will not be the no 1 global economy anymore once it is fully launched.

Whoever wins the 5G race controls all the information that passes through the 5G infrastructure.

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[abduljackolsalsalani]

The US-China tension has been a major issue for the past few years, and it has had a significant impact on both countries. The trade war between the two countries has caused economic disruption, with both sides suffering from tariffs and other restrictions.
 

Moreover, the political tensions have led to increased military presence in the South China Sea and other disputed areas. This has further strained relations between the two countries, leading to a heightened sense of insecurity in both nations. As such, it is important to understand how this tension is affecting both countries and what measures can be taken to reduce it. A wrong tip will result in global destruction and annihilation of the human race.

[Jj6969]

It all boils down to Taiwan, which produces 90% of the semi conductor chips in the world, I think. So kaya pinagaagawan ng dalawa. Whoever controls Taiwan gains intense economic bargaining power. Let’s just hope it wont come down to being the next world war. Cause we all know that WILL be the trigger point of a next great big tragedy.

[Suichiro]

Amerika? Wag nyo lang idamay ang pilipinas sa kalokohan nyong gera dito sa rehiyon namin. Sa inyo na si bangag bongbong, inyong inyo na. Please lang mali na ginawa nyo sa kasaysayan ng pilipinas, wag nyo na dagdagan galit ng pilipinas sa inyo. Sa inyo na si bangag alay na namin yang cociane snorting asshole na yan

[playitbyear16]

masyadong duwag at makitid utak ng mga dutae. malamang hindi tayo makikipagsabayan sa China sa giyera. pero maraming paraan para lumaban at hindi matalo.