Falling For A Therapist - Merged Thread

[Chocolates]

I reread the initial post, and here's my answer.

 

There are so many ifs:

- if am free right now

- if I really love the girl and vice versa

- if she is willing to leave that place totally

- if she is willing to accept what I can offer (comfortable but not luxurious)

 

then I am willing to marry and provide for her.

[Guest Mr Dwayne Sanchez]

masarap pero mahirap din

[K E L S Y - G R E Y]

Malabo..

Is der a man hu wud love a girl na alam neang nahahawakan din ng iba?

A girl hu he had to pay to do things da way he wanted..

Mukhang malabo un in my opinion lng..

Tactic lng un ng ibang guest para maka.lbre or to have the top service at a regular rate..

Para my back-up kpag war o stress kay gf/wifey..

Kpag bored..

It all goes down to the reality dat in dis kind of industry finding love is suntok sa buwan

[markjoycehailey]

Malabo..

Is der a man hu wud love a girl na alam neang nahahawakan din ng iba?

A girl hu he had to pay to do things da way he wanted..

Mukhang malabo un in my opinion lng..

Tactic lng un ng ibang guest para maka.lbre or to have the top service at a regular rate..

Para my back-up kpag war o stress kay gf/wifey..

Kpag bored..

It all goes down to the reality dat in dis kind of industry finding love is suntok sa buwan

 

Peto pag may nakilala ka"ng 4 M"s (Matandang Mayaman Madaling Mamatay), pakasalan mo kaagad.😄

[kali7]

Malabo..

Is der a man hu wud love a girl na alam neang nahahawakan din ng iba?

A girl hu he had to pay to do things da way he wanted..

Mukhang malabo un in my opinion lng..

Tactic lng un ng ibang guest para maka.lbre or to have the top service at a regular rate..

Para my back-up kpag war o stress kay gf/wifey..

Kpag bored..

It all goes down to the reality dat in dis kind of industry finding love is suntok sa buwan

 

Sometimes you have to trust them to know their real intentions. You are right most of the time but not all the time. Just my thoughts

[Chocolates]

Malabo..

Is der a man hu wud love a girl na alam neang nahahawakan din ng iba?

A girl hu he had to pay to do things da way he wanted..

Mukhang malabo un in my opinion lng..

Tactic lng un ng ibang guest para maka.lbre or to have the top service at a regular rate..

Para my back-up kpag war o stress kay gf/wifey..

Kpag bored..

It all goes down to the reality dat in dis kind of industry finding love is suntok sa buwan

 

 

It is still possible for a man to love a girl with this kind of occupation.

Okay, they started with thera-client relationship but if they fall in love with its other.

Just as long they accepted what they are, then so be it.

As long as they are happy.

Just an opinion.

[paboso]

It's not a problem. Rather than giving it for free, might as well get paid for it.

Wala namang pinagka-iba kung nagkaroon sila ng maraming BF.

 

 

[dninjamoves1]

Malabo..

Is der a man hu wud love a girl na alam neang nahahawakan din ng iba?

A girl hu he had to pay to do things da way he wanted..

Mukhang malabo un in my opinion lng..

Tactic lng un ng ibang guest para maka.lbre or to have the top service at a regular rate..

Para my back-up kpag war o stress kay gf/wifey..

Kpag bored..

It all goes down to the reality dat in dis kind of industry finding love is suntok sa buwan

 

+99

it all comes down to reality, get a life outside, wag sanayin ang sarili sa mga bayaran like clubs, mps at spas.

try mo pag wla k pera, ni isa walang papansin sayo jan. kahit pangit bsta may matinong trabaho e nkakahanap ng matino at may itsurang babae.

ask urself? u want to be with someone na isang bayaran for d rest of ur life? "hi mom n dad, hello frends n colleagues, shes my wife, ymmv yan, dating p#ta pero nagbago na"...

dis is not a fairytale or a movie. its reality!

[dninjamoves1]

°°…be KELSYfied…°°, on 29 October 2014 - 08:27 PM, said:

Malabo..

Is der a man hu wud love a girl na alam neang nahahawakan din ng iba?

A girl hu he had to pay to do things da way he wanted..

Mukhang malabo un in my opinion lng..

Tactic lng un ng ibang guest para maka.lbre or to have the top service at a regular rate..

Para my back-up kpag war o stress kay gf/wifey..

Kpag bored..

It all goes down to the reality dat in dis kind of industry finding love is suntok sa buwan

 

 

+99

it all comes down to reality, get a life outside, wag sanayin ang sarili sa mga bayaran like clubs, mps at spas.

try mo pag wla k pera, ni isa walang papansin sayo jan. kahit pangit bsta may matinong trabaho e nkakahanap ng matino at may itsurang babae.

ask urself? u want to be with someone na isang bayaran for d rest of ur life? "hi mom n dad, hello frends n colleagues, shes my wife, ymmv yan, dating p#ta pero nagbago na"...

dis is not a fairytale or a movie. its reality!

[Wanderlusting]

There have been a lot of posts under this topic - some I disagree with, but that's ok since we are all entitled to our own opinions. A few of of them though, I find irritating and immature.

 

This made me go back to the first post to see what this forum was meant to discuss in the first place. For those who haven't read it - please see below.

 

Now, as for my view:

 

I would like to believe, or at least try to convince myself, that I am only infatuated with the girl. However, I have found myself slowly but constantly pushing the boundaries of our relationship (i.e. I mean "relationship" in a strictly technical sense) Which leads to finding myself frequenting this topic.

 

From the clients' perspective, I find nothing wrong with falling for the girl. While some people will say "falling" is a choice, others will agree with me "falling" is an emotion and we don't always have full control of it. But the true question really is - what do you do about it now?

 

Therein lies the conflict. And this is where choice comes in.

 

I am no saint and I am no guru to tell people between what is right and wrong. But what I know is this... Nothing in life is ever clear cut black and white. Anyone who thinks you can use a single rule absolutely is still blind to the world and lacks maturity. Between the broad spectrum of right from wrong, is a very vast gray area. This conundrum lies smack in the middle of the gray area.

 

The predicament that a client facing this situation has is no walk in the park. Other people will belittle it as the client being "too weak" or being "blind to reality".

 

To those people, I would like to say this - we shouldn't forget the fact that the client, and the girl, are both only human. Even with all our flaws, imperfections, issues, and dark pasts (yes, we all have these) I would still like to believe that we are basically good in our core. We sometimes lose our way, but every now and then we find our way back to being good.

 

To the clients, and girls, in this situation, all I can say is that you do what you think... no, what you feel... is best for you. BUT, do not rush any decision and do it with no regrets. Life is too short to be too afraid to take risks. While life is never a "fairytale", I find it spectacular that the whole world can sometimes conspire to bring you to where you're supposed to be. But at the same time, be prepared for the worst.

 

And in the end, you just have to take the skydive and remember that you have to hold on to something more tightly than your parachute... you should hold unto faith. Faith in yourself, and faith in your loved one. Otherwise, it's just a miserable life for any person who can't have such faith in themselves and in others.

 

Good luck.

 

 

 

I want to start this is topic, because i am experiencing it in this crucial stage in my life.

 

for most of you guys, this is a no no. but what if you got interested in one and fell in love with. and also found out that the lady really love you. to yuo married guys this is not feasible, it can ruin your marriage. but to the unmarried and seperated ones. you have to weight the pros and cons for such a relationship. are you willing to accept the past of your loved one, can shoulder the financial burden that will be put upon you once she quits the job? or be willing to sacrifice relatives, friends or even lovers in order to have this relationship work out. pls. share your views with me as i discover her true feelings for me.

[BB-8]

There have been a lot of posts under this topic - some I disagree with, but that's ok since we are all entitled to our own opinions. A few of of them though, I find irritating and immature.

 

This made me go back to the first post to see what this forum was meant to discuss in the first place. For those who haven't read it - please see below.

 

Now, as for my view:

 

I would like to believe, or at least try to convince myself, that I am only infatuated with the girl. However, I have found myself slowly but constantly pushing the boundaries of our relationship (i.e. I mean "relationship" in a strictly technical sense) Which leads to finding myself frequenting this topic.

 

From the clients' perspective, I find nothing wrong with falling for the girl. While some people will say "falling" is a choice, others will agree with me "falling" is an emotion and we don't always have full control of it. But the true question really is - what do you do about it now?

 

Therein lies the conflict. And this is where choice comes in.

 

I am no saint and I am no guru to tell people between what is right and wrong. But what I know is this... Nothing in life is ever clear cut black and white. Anyone who thinks you can use a single rule absolutely is still blind to the world and lacks maturity. Between the broad spectrum of right from wrong, is a very vast gray area. This conundrum lies smack in the middle of the gray area.

 

The predicament that a client facing this situation has is no walk in the park. Other people will belittle it as the client being "too weak" or being "blind to reality".

 

To those people, I would like to say this - we shouldn't forget the fact that the client, and the girl, are both only human. Even with all our flaws, imperfections, issues, and dark pasts (yes, we all have these) I would still like to believe that we are basically good in our core. We sometimes lose our way, but every now and then we find our way back to being good.

 

To the clients, and girls, in this situation, all I can say is that you do what you think... no, what you feel... is best for you. BUT, do not rush any decision and do it with no regrets. Life is too short to be too afraid to take risks. While life is never a "fairytale", I find it spectacular that the whole world can sometimes conspire to bring you to where you're supposed to be. But at the same time, be prepared for the worst.

 

And in the end, you just have to take the skydive and remember that you have to hold on to something more tightly than your parachute... you should hold unto faith. Faith in yourself, and faith in your loved one. Otherwise, it's just a miserable life for any person who can't have such faith in themselves and in others.

 

Good luck.

 

 

 

 

 

all i can say that falling for a thera is not a match made in heaven more like a match made in hell. several things that men forget in a relationship is that you must have the same values. you are from different backgrounds and upbringing your values in all probability will not be the same. so from the beginning you are both doomed to fail. easy to say that you will overcome these but give it time and it will keep coming time and again and ultimately you will get tired and quit.

[Wanderlusting]

Your view hinges on an assumed premise - that people will never change. If you believe this premise to be infalliable, then you will be correct.

 

However, I believe the contrary. Yes, it will require significant time to change a value system that a person may have had for so long, therefore the patience and perseverance of both parties will play a huge part. But this is not impossible. Improbable as it may be.

 

Let's not lose faith in humanity, bro.

 

 

 

all i can say that falling for a thera is not a match made in heaven more like a match made in hell. several things that men forget in a relationship is that you must have the same values. you are from different backgrounds and upbringing your values in all probability will not be the same. so from the beginning you are both doomed to fail. easy to say that you will overcome these but give it time and it will keep coming time and again and ultimately you will get tired and quit.

[blow_gobi]

There are girls who are there for the money and try to keep the loyalty of their customers (in short, mang-uuto o makikipagplastikan) to get their money. There are girls who are flirty (makati), they're not loyal even if you take care of them (kahit ibahay, for example). But there are those who hate the job and are there only to look for someone who can take care of them. They are willing to leave their work for good for the sake of someone willing to take care of them. But expect them to be insecure because they'll fear the guy could get tired of them and leave them.Iba-ibang klase 'yan.

[Wanderlusting]

There are girls who are there for the money and try to keep the loyalty of their customers (in short, mang-uuto o makikipagplastikan) to get their money. There are girls who are flirty (makati), they're not loyal even if you take care of them (kahit ibahay, for example). But there are those who hate the job and are there only to look for someone who can take care of them. They are willing to leave their work for good for the sake of someone willing to take care of them. But expect them to be insecure because they'll fear the guy could get tired of them and leave them.Iba-ibang klase 'yan.

 

Agree with you completely - and there will be even more types of girls in this industry than the 3 you mentioned. Bottom-line is that we should never stereo-type.

[BB-8]

Your view hinges on an assumed premise - that people will never change. If you believe this premise to be infalliable, then you will be correct.

 

However, I believe the contrary. Yes, it will require significant time to change a value system that a person may have had for so long, therefore the patience and perseverance of both parties will play a huge part. But this is not impossible. Improbable as it may be.

 

Let's not lose faith in humanity, bro.

 

 

 

 

 

yes people change but not that much. if you measure it in degrees the change might be 10 degrees, they might show a bigger change than that but eventually goes back to their old ways. nobody can change 180 degrees, maybe for a short duration. at 11yrs old, what you see in a child will be it already. their attitude, character and other traits will carry to their adulthood.

they still can change but not that much, unless there is a dramatic event that has affected them very deeply. aside from this, its set in stone.

[rhubs]

So far, we went out on a date. Just got home. Sinundo ko pa siya via cab sa harap ng spa, we went to a mall, had lunch there. Busog naman kami.

 

Bought her a stuffed toy na matagal na namin pinaguusapan.

 

Dapat pupunta siyang nearby out of town pero went out instead with me. There was one moment where her brother called tapos kinamusta lang siya. Then sinabi niyang kasama niya ako at pinakilala as the boyfriend. We talked at kinamusta rin naman ako. Small talk.

 

Gist:

We just ate and walked around the mall for hours. Wala naman siyang hiningi. Kusa kong binigay. After, that hinatid ko siya pabalik ng spa.

[spirochete]

Hi,

 

Got into a service of a personal massage provider hooker/escort 7 mos ago, we started as clients then develop into friends with benefits, she is having a bad time with her old BF who keeps her as a mistress back then when we get to know each other. Days past she always open up to me and we get to meet twice a week. I treat her well and dated her to be happy. Never paid for her anymore from then on and just treated every meetup date like a normal girl. I make it clear to her that I am not rich but we went on with out dates.

 

After 2 months the working girl started contacting me daily and shows signs of loving me. She even keep on asking what I feel about her and that she loves me, she said she have never met anyone like me who would treat her that way. From then on she introduces me to her parents and friends and even stayed at their province for a week.

 

Days past she pushes for a relationship with me, I said I am happy with her but its hard for me to trust her because she still has a BF and with her work. I told her if she ends her unhappy relationship with his BF I will there to catch her. After a month it happened she brokes up with her old BF and we get more closer with each other. She even gave her life savings to me to invest on equities and we made it official as BF and GF.

 

Right now after 7 months my love for her also deepened but a part of me now gets hurt when she talks about her clients that she also dates away from her massage service from time to time just for the money. I want to trust her but her work is still on the way. I would want to support her financially and get her off her work but I am not rich and just a normal working man. Because of that I taught her how to have an online retail business and she have just started with her fellow workmates as customers.

 

Is this relationship worth it to continue knowing that the working girl fell for me first? Is she genuinely in love with me with the circumstances? I also came from a breakup when we have met and she is amazing than my ex from so many ways. I want this to last and make it work.

Edited November 2, 2014 by spirochete

[rhubs]

Hi,

 

Got into a service of a personal massage provider hooker/escort 7 mos ago, we started as clients then develop into friends with benefits, she is having a bad time with her old BF who keeps her as a mistress back then when we get to know each other. Days past she always open up to me and we get to meet twice a week. I treat her well and dated her to be happy. Never paid for her anymore from then on and just treated every meetup date like a normal girl. I make it clear to her that I am not rich but we went on with out dates.

 

After 2 months the working girl started contacting me daily and shows signs of loving me. She even keep on asking what I feel about her and that she loves me, she said she have never met anyone like me who would treat her that way. From then on she introduces me to her parents and friends and even stayed at their province for a week.

 

Days past she pushes for a relationship with me, I said I am happy with her but its hard for me to trust her because she still has a BF and with her work. I told her if she ends her unhappy relationship with his BF I will there to catch her. After a month it happened she brokes up with her old BF and we get more closer with each other. She even gave her life savings to me to invest on equities and we made it official as BF and GF.

 

Right now after 7 months my love for her also deepened but a part of me now gets hurt when she talks about her clients that she also dates away from her massage service from time to time just for the money. I want to trust her but her work is still on the way. I would want to support her financially and get her off her work but I am not rich and just a normal working man. Because of that I taught her how to have an online retail business and she have just started with her fellow workmates as customers.

 

Is this relationship worth it to continue knowing that the working girl fell for me first? Is she genuinely in love with me with the circumstances? I also came from a breakup when we have met and she is amazing than my ex from so many ways. I want this to last and make it work.

 

 

I'd like to say that it's worth continuing but that would be unfair. I'd push it because I am currently at the beginning of your story. We are going out but due to my financial limitations, I cannot ask her to quit her means of income that is her main financial support for her family. I do have come into terms with her profession. --- Is that the right term? "come into terms" ---- iniintindi ko I mean...

[spirochete]

I'd like to say that it's worth continuing but that would be unfair. I'd push it because I am currently at the beginning of your story. We are going out but due to my financial limitations, I cannot ask her to quit her means of income that is her main financial support for her family. I do have come into terms with her profession. --- Is that the right term? "come into terms" ---- iniintindi ko I mean...

 

yup tama ka tangap ko work nya I made it clear to her, pero syempre I would like to lift her up from her profession in the future. She is insecure lagi nya sinasabi na natatakot cya iwan ko cya at hindi daw nya ako ma sisi kapag ginawa ko un dahil sa work nya. My parents / friends does not know na ang ka relationship ko ay nasa ganun work, how can I. I said that lets give it a year at ng makaipon cya at malago nmin ang business then we will see from there.

[dninjamoves1]

Hi,

 

Got into a service of a personal massage provider hooker/escort 7 mos ago, we started as clients then develop into friends with benefits, she is having a bad time with her old BF who keeps her as a mistress back then when we get to know each other. Days past she always open up to me and we get to meet twice a week. I treat her well and dated her to be happy. Never paid for her anymore from then on and just treated every meetup date like a normal girl. I make it clear to her that I am not rich but we went on with out dates.

 

After 2 months the working girl started contacting me daily and shows signs of loving me. She even keep on asking what I feel about her and that she loves me, she said she have never met anyone like me who would treat her that way. From then on she introduces me to her parents and friends and even stayed at their province for a week.

 

Days past she pushes for a relationship with me, I said I am happy with her but its hard for me to trust her because she still has a BF and with her work. I told her if she ends her unhappy relationship with his BF I will there to catch her. After a month it happened she brokes up with her old BF and we get more closer with each other. She even gave her life savings to me to invest on equities and we made it official as BF and GF.

 

Right now after 7 months my love for her also deepened but a part of me now gets hurt when she talks about her clients that she also dates away from her massage service from time to time just for the money. I want to trust her but her work is still on the way. I would want to support her financially and get her off her work but I am not rich and just a normal working man. Because of that I taught her how to have an online retail business and she have just started with her fellow workmates as customers.

 

Is this relationship worth it to continue knowing that the working girl fell for me first? Is she genuinely in love with me with the circumstances? I also came from a breakup when we have met and she is amazing than my ex from so many ways. I want this to last and make it work.

 

who are we to judge? is there someone here who is perfect?

 

i fully understand wat ur going through, n i admire d sincerity, respect n love dat u gave to ur gf. But then again admit or not, 1 of d biggest factor dat u fell is "awa" another thing is, us guys always want to play d hero thing like saving her on her situation, plus d thrill of course of having her while she has a bf dat time. D question is, how long it will last?

 

if in case she quit, ss u mentioned ur not rich, lets just say u or her family encountered a dificult financial issue, how sure r u dat she wont go back if d financial issue become tight again?

 

n btw, if she quits, ur parents or friends doesnt need to know, u can keep it between d 2 of u, as a respect to her so called past, by dat time.

 

ask urself, is it worth it? do u deserve just like this or u think u deserve better? do u feel anxious about it? do u feel stress? can u accept her na wlang sumbatan in d future?

 

if yes, den fight 4 it, u took d gamble den take d risk. have a heartache, stress n anxiety everday of ur life, sounds fun dba? enjoy d missery.

 

if all ur answers are no, den go on with ur life, ders a lot fishes in the ocean, binata k brad at tingin ko nman may matino kang trabaho, explore not just in pay4service but in d real world.

 

goodluck n hoping dat both of u will be happy to d choices dat u made. will be successfull in ur planned biz, n have a happy family. life is short, we deserve to be happy. I salute u brad if dat us wat u called true love.

[BB-8]

Hi,

 

Got into a service of a personal massage provider hooker/escort 7 mos ago, we started as clients then develop into friends with benefits, she is having a bad time with her old BF who keeps her as a mistress back then when we get to know each other. Days past she always open up to me and we get to meet twice a week. I treat her well and dated her to be happy. Never paid for her anymore from then on and just treated every meetup date like a normal girl. I make it clear to her that I am not rich but we went on with out dates.

 

After 2 months the working girl started contacting me daily and shows signs of loving me. She even keep on asking what I feel about her and that she loves me, she said she have never met anyone like me who would treat her that way. From then on she introduces me to her parents and friends and even stayed at their province for a week.

 

Days past she pushes for a relationship with me, I said I am happy with her but its hard for me to trust her because she still has a BF and with her work. I told her if she ends her unhappy relationship with his BF I will there to catch her. After a month it happened she brokes up with her old BF and we get more closer with each other. She even gave her life savings to me to invest on equities and we made it official as BF and GF.

 

Right now after 7 months my love for her also deepened but a part of me now gets hurt when she talks about her clients that she also dates away from her massage service from time to time just for the money. I want to trust her but her work is still on the way. I would want to support her financially and get her off her work but I am not rich and just a normal working man. Because of that I taught her how to have an online retail business and she have just started with her fellow workmates as customers.

 

Is this relationship worth it to continue knowing that the working girl fell for me first? Is she genuinely in love with me with the circumstances? I also came from a breakup when we have met and she is amazing than my ex from so many ways. I want this to last and make it work.

 

have you had fights that really tested your relationship? i dont think so, 7 mos is still honeymoon period all is sweet and lovely. its going come then post again what you feel.

[Sephirot]

I really envy those GMs that can really put their feelings away from physical pleasure when getting these kind of girls. For me, there will be that one girl na tatamaan ka rin, regardless of her job. But if you frequent these establishments, more likely it will be one of these girls. Kahit your a veteran in these establishments, pwede pa rin kasi ma in love when there is a time na vulnerable ka and a good timing na yung girl will connect to you like a cupid shot an arrow to your heart.

[kali7]

The real problem I see in these relationships is pag nagsama na kayo. Either live-in or getting married. Lalabas na lahat ng ugali for both and this will test the relationships. Mahirap lang pag nagkaanak na. Wala nang bawian. Remember, most of these girls are uneducated kaya nga wala ng mapuntahang ibang trabaho. The ratio in these relationship is still marami pa rin ang nagsisi kesa sa happily ever after. Do you consider your self as the knight and shinning armor who will save the princess in despair?

[markjoycehailey]

Your view hinges on an assumed premise - that people will never change. If you believe this premise to be infalliable, then you will be correct.

 

However, I believe the contrary. Yes, it will require significant time to change a value system that a person may have had for so long, therefore the patience and perseverance of both parties will play a huge part. But this is not impossible. Improbable as it may be.

 

Let's not lose faith in humanity, bro.

 

Let"s not forget that whores are the dark side of humanity.😎

[Edmund Dantes]

+99

it all comes down to reality, get a life outside, wag sanayin ang sarili sa mga bayaran like clubs, mps at spas.

try mo pag wla k pera, ni isa walang papansin sayo jan. kahit pangit bsta may matinong trabaho e nkakahanap ng matino at may itsurang babae.

ask urself? u want to be with someone na isang bayaran for d rest of ur life? "hi mom n dad, hello frends n colleagues, shes my wife, ymmv yan, dating p#ta pero nagbago na"...

dis is not a fairytale or a movie. its reality!

 

Hehehehe, aruuuuuuuuy! Marami kang matatamaan dito sa sinabi mong ito, pero wala tayong magagawa, masaklap na sampal sa iba ang katotohanan. I remember one idiot in this thread who held so much resentment on the things that I said. Lumabas pang white knight ng mga attendants at MPA. He claims mas marami daw syang naiintindihan at nalalaman kasi "matagal na sya sa industya". Madalas daw kasi nagbabad sa mga MP at KTV lol. And Im like isa ba itong bagay na dapat ipagmalaki? Seryoso? Pinagmalaki pa na puros GRO at MP nya ginagastos oras at pera? Lol.

 

Hindi tayo nagmamalinis dito, pero una, lahat ng sobra eh masama. Pangalawa, papano lalawak ang perspective at wisdom mo kung laging puro yung mga kelangan bayaran ka lang nakakadevelop ng intimacy? Tama ka with most of what you said.