Falling For A Therapist - Merged Thread

[Guest megalodon]

actually it can and it is! indirectly! the human brain is imprintable, and feelings are imprinted! and how do you imprint those feelings??? by spending time with the girl...through DATING! (or "ligaw" if you are the old-fashioned type)

 

dates cost money...you give gifts, take them out to dinner and movie...and so on! All to imprint on the girl that you are capable of providing for her! Basically, dating is not merely getting to know each other, but it is to impress the girl on what your resources are and what you are capable of giving her! (which fundamentally is to be able to provide for her and the children she will have with you)

 

animals, who don't have the same brain capacity as humans do this! and they do it by instinct! as I've said, money is the medium for human resources! in animals, the money used by human males is equivalent to the ability to hunt for food, or fend of predators or competing males and so on! this is the resources(money) the male uses to buy the "feelings" of a female.

 

with all things being equal(kind, caring, funny), how will a girl be "in" to you, when you spend, say an average of 1hr a day, while your competitor, with more money than you is able to spend 1/5 of the day?

 

do not make the mistake of defining money as per its monetary value alone (that is what the communists want, the ignorance they propagate, placing "feelings" above money), but rather define it as the medium that represents a man's ability within human society! the money you earn is the measure of your worth in society! and a woman who understands this fact, and "loves" you for your money, does so because she "loves" you for your ability to succeed in life, ensuring her survival as well as her children with you! no feeling can be more real or more significant!

With all due respect to MPAs, GROs and the like, most of them will consider the financial wherewithal of a man before going into a relationship with him but if you're gonna use money, in general, as an avenue to, as you said, buy the feelings of a girl, then I'd say you're dead wrong. Do you think you can use money as a weapon in wooing someone who was born with a silver spoon in her mouth? I don't think so. I'll give you an example. Manny Villar. He wasn't as well-heeled then when he wooed his would be wife who was, in fact, richer than him a thousand fold. It's a combination of factors and money is just one of them and not a major factor. Sometimes, money isn't even a factor. Cassanovas use their wit, charm and good-looks (if they have) to get girls. So there.

[slimboy]

With all due respect to MPAs, GROs and the like, most of them will consider the financial wherewithal of a man before going into a relationship with him but if you're gonna use money, in general, as an avenue to, as you said, buy the feelings of a girl, then I'd say you're dead wrong. Do you think you can use money as a weapon in wooing someone who was born with a silver spoon in her mouth? I don't think so. I'll give you an example. Manny Villar. He wasn't as well-heeled then when he wooed his would be wife who was, in fact, richer than him a thousand fold. It's a combination of factors and money is just one of them and not a major factor. Sometimes, money isn't even a factor. Cassanovas use their wit, charm and good-looks (if they have) to get girls. So there.

 

I agree with you bro cause I have experienced it myself. Providing the girl financial support , decent shelter , branded clothes and accessories will not guaranttee that you win her love for you. I did split with this girl and was able to get back some amount she loaned which I guess came from another suitor . I consider it a blessing in disguise cause if I still have the relartionship with her , I may now have a broken family.. So not get into further trouble pa one night stand na lang...

[Rearden]

With all due respect to MPAs, GROs and the like, most of them will consider the financial wherewithal of a man before going into a relationship with him but if you're gonna use money, in general, as an avenue to, as you said, buy the feelings of a girl, then I'd say you're dead wrong. Do you think you can use money as a weapon in wooing someone who was born with a silver spoon in her mouth? I don't think so. I'll give you an example. Manny Villar. He wasn't as well-heeled then when he wooed his would be wife who was, in fact, richer than him a thousand fold. It's a combination of factors and money is just one of them and not a major factor. Sometimes, money isn't even a factor. Cassanovas use their wit, charm and good-looks (if they have) to get girls. So there.

 

sir, did i not give the definition of "money" in my explanation???

 

of course, I did not use it in general, i used it in a specific way didn't I??? Please, use the definition I have given in order to understand the logic of the statements!

 

No, i did not say you use money to woo! (you are using the "monetary value alone" deinition)

I said you need money to woo! (I am using the "medium that represents man's ability" definition)

 

Woo someone born with a silverspoon? yes, you need money! (again, defined as the medium that represents man's ability)

 

imagine this...using the premise I have given before, 2 men, both kind, caring, funny, and so on...

Man #1 is 20 year old Manny Villar, who is still struggling to make it in the world

Man #2 is 30 year old Manny Villar, who is already a success

...who do you think will win the "feelings" of Cynthia?

 

but wait, do you know the Villar's personally? are you really sure that it was Manny who wooed Cynthia and not the otherway around? in that scenario, it was Cynthia (the one with the money) who wooed the Tondo boy Manny!

 

wit, charms, good-looks? those are all abilities, which a man can use to succeed in society! and a successful man is a rich man! it is just a matter of time before the boy becomes a man!

 

Imagine, 2 Casanovas...

Casanova # 1 - who works as an ordinary file and rank employee

Casanova # 2 - a successful businessman

...who would win???

 

As I've said, all things being equal, which means both are witty, charming and good-looking! The moneyed man wins because he has more ability!

 

The only way the penniless casanova wins a girl is if she has no option, meaning there was no one else vying for her affection!

[Rearden]

I agree with you bro cause I have experienced it myself. Providing the girl financial support , decent shelter , branded clothes and accessories will not guaranttee that you win her love for you. I did split with this girl and was able to get back some amount she loaned which I guess came from another suitor . I consider it a blessing in disguise cause if I still have the relartionship with her , I may now have a broken family.. So not get into further trouble pa one night stand na lang...

 

no offense sir! i would just like to ask...

 

1. did you have a competitor when you were vying for this girl's affection?

2. you gave her decent shelter? does that mean she was yours? (even if for a little while)

3. are you sure that she was capable of a long term monogamous relationship? maybe she doesn't even realize that she prefers serial monogamy, or polyandry!

4. are you sure, your definition of love is the same with the girl?

5. maybe the one night stands are all she wants from a man, you have already won her love. should she change for you? why should she change for you?

[Guest megalodon]

sir, did i not give the definition of "money" in my explanation???Didn't you say that money is the worth of a man in society?

 

of course, I did not use it in general, i used it in a specific way didn't I??? Please, use the definition I have given in order to understand the logic of the statements!-In your definition, money is what makes a man

 

No, i did not say you use money to woo! (you are using the "monetary value alone" deinition)

I said you need money to woo! (I am using the "medium that represents man's ability" definition)

 

Woo someone born with a silverspoon? yes, you need money! (again, defined as the medium that represents man's ability)-As I said, you can't fight money with money when you're trying to win the affection of someone who was born with it.

 

imagine this...using the premise I have given before, 2 men, both kind, caring, funny, and so on...

Man #1 is 20 year old Manny Villar, who is still struggling to make it in the world

Man #2 is 30 year old Manny Villar, who is already a success

...who do you think will win the "feelings" of Cynthia?-I wouldn't know but what I know is Manny Villar was a pauper compared to Cynthia when they met.

 

but wait, do you know the Villar's personally? are you really sure that it was Manny who wooed Cynthia and not the otherway around? in that scenario, it was Cynthia (the one with the money) who wooed the Tondo boy Manny!-I don't know them personally

 

wit, charms, good-looks? those are all abilities, which a man can use to succeed in society! and a successful man is a rich man! it is just a matter of time before the boy becomes a man!

 

Imagine, 2 Casanovas...

Casanova # 1 - who works as an ordinary file and rank employee

Casanova # 2 - a successful businessman

...who would win???Depends on who is the smoother operator.

 

As I've said, all things being equal, which means both are witty, charming and good-looking! The moneyed man wins because he has more ability!-ability in what?

 

The only way the penniless casanova wins a girl is if she has no option, meaning there was no one else vying for her affection!-This is your opinion.

Edited February 26, 2010 by megalodon

[Rearden]

Didn't you say that money is the worth of a man in society?

 

no i didn't...please read!

as I've said, money is the medium for human resources!

 

-In your definition, money is what makes a man

 

no, please read the above quote!

 

As I said, you can't fight money with money when you're trying to win the affection of someone who was born with it.

 

no you didn't! please read your statements again! here it is...

 

Do you think you can use money as a weapon in wooing someone who was born with a silver spoon in her mouth? I don't think so. I'll give you an example. Manny Villar. He wasn't as well-heeled then when he wooed his would be wife who was, in fact, richer than him a thousand fold. It's a combination of factors and money is just one of them and not a major factor. Sometimes, money isn't even a factor. Cassanovas use their wit, charm and good-looks (if they have) to get girls. So there.

 

maybe you should rephrase your statements to make it clearer! let's say use "tool" instead of "weapon"...and so on

or if you are going to use the word "weapon", then use it consistently instead of changing from "weapon" to "factor"

 

 

-I wouldn't know but what I know is Manny Villar was a pauper compared to Cynthia when they met.

 

couldn't or wouldn't you venture a guess? you were quick to assume on the relationship of the Villars. Isn't it easier since I've provided you a set of DATA to make an informed decision?

let's not use the Villars anymore as an example, replace Manny and Cynthia with random woman and random man#1 and #2, for objectivity's sake!

 

 

-I don't know them personally

 

then you don't really know if money played a part or not? as you have asserted that it didn't

1. it could have been that Cynthia used her money to win Manny's affection! (Manny then chooses Cynthia because it will guarantee his success in life)

2. it could have been that Manny's abilities (e.g. intelligence, ergo Cynthia makes the assumption that future Manny will be a successful businessman) is what won Cynthia's affection!

 

Depends on who is the smoother operator.

Again, all things being equal, means both are smooth operators! the only difference is one is rich, the other is poor!

 

-ability in what?

Ability to succeed in life! It could be intelligence (becomes a successful professional), or shrewdness or interpersonal skills (becomes a successful businessman), or ability in sports (becomes a professional athlete), all of which gives a man an advantage that is rewarded by money! Ergo making money the medium that represents ability, the more ability, the more money! That is the Capitalist system! That is the world we live in!

 

-This is your opinion.

No, it is nature, not just human nature, but nature in general! Although sometimes it happens, they are anomalies, making them statistically insignificant! It is worthless to give statistically insignificant anomalies any value in life! Do you put your hopes on winning the lotto? or winning big in casinos?

 

Why is it that you made the assumption that it is feelings and not money (medium for human ability) as important? Is it because you were taught that mantra since childhood?

 

Are you married sir? have a girlfriend/s? Would your partner have noticed you if you were broke? and wooed them using your wit, charm, and good looks alone? Meaning, no money for dates, no money for gifts, have to work 2 or 3 jobs just to survive?

 

Sir, money gives you the luxury (of time) to woo a girl! Money gives you the luxury (of health) to be a hot-blooded healthy male, by being able to afford the right sustenance! Money gives you the luxury to have children and ensure their success in life!

 

...and you say money is not important???

 

Feelings are merely by-products of all the luxury your money have afforded you and your loved ones!

[Rearden]

look at it this way sir megalodon...

 

Manny Villar may have been poor, but he spent all his time and energy to earning money! That small amount of money he earned, sent him to school, and gave him access to Cynthia, who recognizing Manny's ability, chooses him over others, and Manny recognizing Cynthia's background takes her as a wife, ensuring their mutual success in life!

 

now imagine the same, but instead of being in a Capitalist society, we lived in a Communist society...(with what we know of the history of Communist societies, like China and Russia, and the death toll of those societies) Manny would most likely have died young out of hunger, or may not even have been born, or being a son of poor parents, would have been poor all his life working in a field!

 

@topic

MPAs/PSPs/GROs, being in the situation that they are, are more basic, than non-MPAs/PSPs/GROs who can afford the luxury of "feelings", but both types are fundamentally the same! it is just politically incorrect to say it out loud, because majority of our society do not understand that money is the medium used to measure a man's ability, and instead were indoctrinated with the "money as the root of all evil" mantra!

[Guest megalodon]

As I said, Villar may have used factors other than money such as charm, wit, humor, etc. Money is just one of the considerations a girl will look into when it comes to choosing a guy.

 

I can't imagine myself living in a communist country. The fact is the Nacionalista Party standard bearer is a billionaire.

 

@topic

MPAs/PSPs/GROs, being in the situation that they are, are more basic, than non-MPAs/PSPs/GROs who can afford the luxury of "feelings", but both types are fundamentally the same! it is just politically incorrect to say it out loud, because majority of our society do not understand that money is the medium used to measure a man's ability, and instead were indoctrinated with the "money as the root of all evil" mantra!-Can you give me the source of this statement? That money is the medium used to measure a man's ability? Coz frankly I find this statement idiotic. That doesn't necessarily mean that a man couldn't make a girl fall for him since he's lacking in finances.

Edited February 26, 2010 by megalodon

[btdeadlock]

I don't think you can really generalize. It really depends on what needs of a girl needs to be filled at the moment, be it financial, emotional, sexual, etc.

[Intuition]

i pretty much agree with Rearden...

 

i noticed that arguments erupt because a lot of ppl cant seem to be able to define "money" as a measure of one's abilities.... but instead, typically define it as "money - something that can BUY something."

 

your wit, humor, skills, looks, etc. hard as it may to believe... actually translate to 'money.' thats what Rearden was saying for quite a few posts now.

[boyegoy]

Sometimes you just can't help it but fall. I have experienced this once and based on that I can tell that it's really hard but you still do it, you still feel it because it makes you happy even for just a while.

[btdeadlock]

And it doesn't get any easier. This is 4th time I've fallen for someone and I'm still running around like a headless chicken.

[monazario]

They got their mind on they money, money on they mind

They got their finger on the trigger, hand on the nines

See everyday they feel the struggle, but staying on they grind

And ain’t nobody takin’ from us, and that’s the bottom line

 

Cos I'mma tell you like wu told me

Cash rules everything around me

Singin' dollar dollar bill yall(dollar, dollar bill yall)

Singin' dollar dollar bill yall(dollar, dollar bill yall)

 

-sweetest girl (akon, wyclef jean, lil wayne and nia

[coricsbaby]

I agree with you guys..I've experienced it. Ang hirap, sometimes you're pretending that it's only the sexual urges that triggers you to visit her. But deep inside your heart, you're so excited and as much as possible you want to spend the whole day with her.

[StoicVampire]

+1,000,000,000..

 

At kahit ano ang higpit mo at kahit gaano ka kabait or kasama, kung gusto parating may paraan. Girls who cheat and leave their respective families in the process are selfish. They could not care less on how they would be perceived, or that their kids could suffer. As long as they are happy, and contented. Ang hindi ni alam, walang perpektong buhay and when their insatiability would kick in again, then the whole cycle repeats itself.

 

Walang kinalaman na dati siyang bayaran (GRO/MPA/PSP). O sa estado ng buhay. Nasa sa babae (o lalake) yan kung gaano sila ka-selfish. SELFISHNESS is the reason why people cheat. At sa ngayon, uso yan. Si Chavit nga pinendeho ng ka-live-in niya eh. What more ordinary folks. Before only men do this. Sabihin na natin na equality. Pati ba sa kasamaan, equality pa din. Sometimes, I think that the world is really going down the drain because people's view on morality is now skewed and is getting worse.

 

Medyo OT, pasensya na.

 

If they feel like cheating, gagawa at gagawa ng paraan. Well I've already moved on. Masakit na lang din yung sinabi niya sa akin na utak basura ako e di ibinalik ko na rin sa kanya yung sinabi niya sa kin. No offense to the ones who are in this thread because I've also experienced it. Just wanted to share. I replied to her: "Di ba kapag mukhang pera ang isang tao basura na rin ang turing dun?" Di na nagreply. I'm expecting violent reactions so keep 'em coming. hehe!

[StoicVampire]

You had money because you had capabilities and skills of earning it. It is just the repercussion of your hardwork and dedication to survive in life. Ang hirap naman siguro nun na nagtatrabaho ka para sa wala di ba? It maybe the easiest and most obvious reason to show your success in life that's why we are in a perception that money could buy everything even feelings of someone. Para bang end product ng "carbon cycle" which is oxygen. Hehe! Kung yun ang makikita ng girl sayo, kahit siguro gaano kaliit o kalaki ang sinusuweldo mo, you may win her heart (case to case basis pa rin). If she really loves you and wants to be with you, and doesn't want to be selfish, she will endure this cause she knows someone really loves her and works hard for her.

[btdeadlock]

Masakit na lang din yung sinabi niya sa akin na utak basura ako

I hope you don't mind me asking, but brought that on?

[MrWafu]

who has the most odd wins!!

[btdeadlock]

I wonder if what goes on in an MPAs/PSPs/GROs mind when a client comes courting has been talked about here. It's hard to back read 200+ pages. We ask if the object of our affections will cheat on us, or is only after our money. But what do they ask?

 

1. Is he serious about me or is he just playing with me? Maybe I'm just the flavor of the month.

2. If he is serious, how long will it last? Will he still love me when I'm 25? 30? 40? How long before he gets tired of loving me or falls for someone fresher and younger?

3. Lahat nq lalaki, mabait kung nanliligaw. What if he slowly turns into a monster once we're together?

4. I don't want it to come to a point where we get into a fight, and he brings the fact that he helped me out, or that he "saved" me from my old job. Will he play the "savior" card to control me, or hurt me in the future?

 

There a probably a few more that come to the minds of MPAs/PSPs/GROs when guys like us try to win them over. If there are any MPAs/PSPs/GROs reading this, I certainly would like their feedback.

[bpc_dnd]

to those who have MPAs as lovers, do you them "Live" or without condom? In case you still prefer to use condom, do they anything to say against its use, like you dont love me enough that you dont want to do it live with me?

 

Personally, i still use condom though she wants to do it "live".

Edited March 3, 2010 by bpc_dnd

[loser]

to those who have MPAs as lovers, do you them "Live" or without condom? In case you still prefer to use condom, do they anything to say against its use, like you dont love me enough that you dont want to do it live with me?

 

Personally, i still use condom though she wants to do it "live".

Actually they say this line, "malinis ako para sayo, sayo ko lang ginagawa ito." It's flattering to hear it from a beatuiful MPA, but to hear it more than once is enough :thumbsdownsmiley: .

[monazario]

Actually they say this line, "malinis ako para sayo, sayo ko lang ginagawa ito." It's flattering to hear it from a beatuiful MPA, but to hear it more than once is enough :thumbsdownsmiley: .

paano kung ayaw nya pasuotin ka?

ano pwedeng diskarte?

she would always say na...

"sayo ko lang naman ginagawa to..

or that.. wala ka bang tiwala sa kin?

ikaw lang naman nakakagawa sa akin nito ... prammizzz"

 

that is the question...

[barnacleboy]

paano kung ayaw nya pasuotin ka?

ano pwedeng diskarte?

she would always say na...

"sayo ko lang naman ginagawa to..

or that.. wala ka bang tiwala sa kin?

ikaw lang naman nakakagawa sa akin nito ... prammizzz"

 

that is the question...

 

"Baka mabuntis ka..."

[monazario]

"Baka mabuntis ka..."

naka-pills bro.....

[StoicVampire]

I hope you don't mind me asking, but brought that on?

 

Bro, i've been true to myself and her throughout our relationship. The words I told her though mushy were from the feelings that I had for her. We were raised to show someone the true intentions that we have bad or good. Di ko sinasabing maayos ang pagpapalaki sa amin at wala rin namang perpektong tao. Di ko naman sinasabi yung mga romantic na bagay na yun dahil gusto kong magpa-impress sa kanya. Hindi ko naman pinilit yung sarili ko eh. It's plain and simple love. That's all. Sinabi ko sa kanya na hanggang kaya ko siyang suportahan, gagawin ko. Take note....."hanggang"....I am the breadwinner of my family and I couldn't sacrifice the future of my sibling cause I know his potential. I told her that. Ang sabi ba naman sa kin eh nakakaurat na ang mga sinasabi ko at daig ko pa ang babae sa ka-dramahan ko. Hehe! Di ka ba masaktan nun? At sinabi rin niya nung unang beses na nagtapat ako sa kanya na hindi niya gagamitin ang feelings ko para sa financial problems niya. But in the end, yun din ang nangyari. I was expecting this and I couldn't blame you for reacting (towards my post ba oh towards sa kung bakit niya sinabi sa akin?) Wala naman akong intention na masama. Gusto ko lang ipakita sa kanya na she couldn't rely on people all throughout her life. She has to do something. Simple lang naman ang pangarap nun. Yumaman. Hehe! Tsaka kung ayaw na niya sa kin, she could've just simpy told me. Wala naman akong magagawa. Kung gusto niyang makipagkalas, she could've just showed it in a nice way. Ang kaso nakipag-away pa.