Itto Ogami Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 i think this confirms you really love her sir, kasi you're putting her own happiness first before your own.. very nice sir though your avatar scares me, hahahahaaah thanks for your words of support.i'm not all that altruistic, though.there is still a part of me that wants to keep her for myself. i agree with Rearden's viewpoint: if a guy wants to have multiple families, and all parties are amenable to the arrangement, let them be.as long as nobody suffers, whether emotionally or financially. about my avatar, it just so happens i'm into martial arts.a co-practitioner told me about this MP near where we play and the rest is history - nagkanda-leche-leche na buhay ko. google up SHOGUN ASSASSIN or ITTO OGAMI. Quote Link to comment
greenman24 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 (edited) thanks for your words of support.i'm not all that altruistic, though.there is still a part of me that wants to keep her for myself. i agree with Rearden's viewpoint: if a guy wants to have multiple families, and all parties are amenable to the arrangement, let them be.as long as nobody suffers, whether emotionally or financially. about my avatar, it just so happens i'm into martial arts.a co-practitioner told me about this MP near where we play and the rest is history - nagkanda-leche-leche na buhay ko. google up SHOGUN ASSASSIN or ITTO OGAMI. Hindi naman cguro masama...if you really like the girl that provides you sexual services for a fee. I have one...we been going out discreetly for six months...the only feeling i have for her is sympathy...she had a very difficult/hard background...i know her personally...her real name...what happened to her...i am married...but to see her is like sharing something i have with somebody who is lonely/problematic...what do i get in return nothing...maybe good sex...hanggang dun lang...is this love...no...yes...not sure...sabi nga nang marami ang buhay ikaw ang gumagawa kung saan ito patungo... Edited December 20, 2009 by greenman24 Quote Link to comment
Itto Ogami Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Hindi naman cguro masama...if you really like the girl that provides you sexual services for a fee. I have one...we been going out discreetly for six months...the only feeling i have for her is sympathy...she had a very difficult/hard background...i know her personally...her real name...what happened to her...i am married...but to see her is like sharing something i have with somebody who is lonely/problematic...what do i get in return nothing...maybe good sex...hanggang dun lang...is this love...no...yes...not sure...sabi nga nang marami ang buhay ikaw ang gumagawa kung saan ito patungo... but, what does she feel for you, sir?napag-usapan nyo ba yun? in my case, i know where i stand.no matter how much of myself i give to this woman, i don't think she'll ever see me as anyone more than a guest. Quote Link to comment
TanglewoodBoy Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 but, what does she feel for you, sir?napag-usapan nyo ba yun? in my case, i know where i stand.no matter how much of myself i give to this woman, i don't think she'll ever see me as anyone more than a guest.i am sure she knows you're married sir kaya ganun feeling niya sa iyo, if you were single, things would have been a lot different i am sure... if you have no intention of leaving your family to be with her, then, ok na siguro yun sir since what you care about is her HAPPINESS... baka kilala ko siya sir since well rounded ako sa QC area nga lang (spas, mp's, ktv's etc...hehehehe) good luck sir!!! Quote Link to comment
markus_cruzade Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 impressive, sir.very nice physiological insights on the nature of love. still, the bottom line for me is:I LOVE HER;I WANT TO GET HER OUT OF THE MP BUSINESS;I DON'T CARE IF SHE ENDS UP WITH ME OR NOT. I feel this way for someone. And it hurts a lot :cry: Quote Link to comment
Itto Ogami Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 (edited) i am sure she knows you're married sir kaya ganun feeling niya sa iyo, if you were single, things would have been a lot different i am sure... if you have no intention of leaving your family to be with her, then, ok na siguro yun sir since what you care about is her HAPPINESS... baka kilala ko siya sir since well rounded ako sa QC area nga lang (spas, mp's, ktv's etc...hehehehe) good luck sir!!! that's an interesting insight, sir.in one of our discussions, she confided in me that there were guys interested in putting her up in a condo.kaso, ayaw nya because they were married and she didn't want any trouble eventually. she also values her freedom. i already told her i can afford to break my wife's heart, but not my children's. di sila dapat madamay dito sa pinasok ko. i guess what i'm looking for is some sort of validation. tao lang naman po tayo - na makaramdam ako na iba ako sa mga guests nya.but, then again, that's just wishful thinking. as for your other observation, hmmm... it is possible that you may know her.but, for my sake, i hope not! peace... Edited December 20, 2009 by IttoOgami Quote Link to comment
TanglewoodBoy Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 that's an interesting insight, sir.in one of our discussions, she confided in me that there were guys interested in putting her up in a condo.kaso, ayaw nya because they were married and she didn't want any trouble eventually. she also values her freedom. i already told her i can afford to break my wife's heart, but not my children's. di sila dapat madamay dito sa pinasok ko. i guess what i'm looking for is some sort of validation. tao lang naman po tayo - na makaramdam ako na iba ako sa mga guests nya.but, then again, that's just wishful thinking. as for your other observation, hmmm... it is possible that you may know her.but, for my sake, i hope not! peace... actually, i was in that situation before, but like you i needed VALIDATION and i had it, pinapunta niya ako dun sa spa na pinapasukan niya before to just meet up, she's not asking for anything just to see me and that made me happy.. for me, tama na sa akin yun to know that she values me as a friend kahit di maging kami... Quote Link to comment
StoicVampire Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Oh man! Eventhough this thread could be one of the longest ones we have in this site, thoughts of you people (i haven't read all the comments yet just browsed some) encouraged me to tell the feelings I have for this girl. Love or lust? I really don't know. Nung una ko siyang nakita, I didn't even think of her being in that kind of business. A PSP if we may call it. A typical teenager na mukhang flirtatious and fun loving. Then into our deed, I don't know if this is due to lust that I wanted to be with her. We had sex but I think that is only a small part of it. Gusto ko talaga siyang makasama as in sa mga lakad, dates, without cash involved. Just wanted to be with somebody who I can talk and share fun with. I'm still single right now and there have been instances that I got interested with a girl but haven't had the courage to tell her (torpe kasi). I don't know if it is due to the fact that I already got her...if you know what I mean. But I could care less with what happened. I don't care about her past or what she does. I'm not that type of a person that will buy everything that you want just to impress you or to get a better lay. Actually I only buy presents for my sibling and parent (singular lang dahil ibang istorya na yan) at syempre inaanak pag pasko. But when she asked me for a gift, this coming Christmas, I didn't hesitate to get one for her. I'm not a boastful or a flashy type of a person. And with all honesty, guys...i told her that she will get one indeed. Maybe some of you will say na ginagatasan lang ako (which could be true considering her business) but I could care less. Minsan nga nagpahaging na ko sa kanya na pwede bang mayaya sa isang date. As in formal date. Bigla nagtaka. Ako naman lumabas na naman ang pagkatorpe ayun bigla iwas sa topic. Gusto ko lang talaga siya makausap palagi kahit sa text lang. Keep in touch with her. Know what's happening with her everyday (not a stalker type ok?). Forget sex and the service. I want her to know that there is something deeper involved with the relationship that I have with her. Say anything you want. Tell me I'm stupid and an idiot. (I'm sure ma ko quote yung huling sentence. Hehe!) Di ko na alam gagawin ko eh. I'm still thinking twice maybe because it's just lust? Pero di talaga guys. I want to let her know. That's it. Quote Link to comment
Itto Ogami Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 actually, i was in that situation before, but like you i needed VALIDATION and i had it, pinapunta niya ako dun sa spa na pinapasukan niya before to just meet up, she's not asking for anything just to see me and that made me happy.. for me, tama na sa akin yun to know that she values me as a friend kahit di maging kami... boy, you are indeed lucky, sir.gawin nya lang sa kin yun, i'd be one happy SoB. a small gesture lang, kahit ano, just to make me feel different.na kahit may umaaligid sa kanyang mas bata, mas macho, mas mayaman - maramdaman ko na angat ako sa kanila. yun lang po wish ko (paging Vicki Morales, pls ) Quote Link to comment
TanglewoodBoy Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Oh man! Eventhough this thread could be one of the longest ones we have in this site, thoughts of you people (i haven't read all the comments yet just browsed some) encouraged me to tell the feelings I have for this girl. Love or lust? I really don't know. Nung una ko siyang nakita, I didn't even think of her being in that kind of business. A PSP if we may call it. A typical teenager na mukhang flirtatious and fun loving. Then into our deed, I don't know if this is due to lust that I wanted to be with her. We had sex but I think that is only a small part of it. Gusto ko talaga siyang makasama as in sa mga lakad, dates, without cash involved. Just wanted to be with somebody who I can talk and share fun with. I'm still single right now and there have been instances that I got interested with a girl but haven't had the courage to tell her (torpe kasi). I don't know if it is due to the fact that I already got her...if you know what I mean. But I could care less with what happened. I don't care about her past or what she does. I'm not that type of a person that will buy everything that you want just to impress you or to get a better lay. Actually I only buy presents for my sibling and parent (singular lang dahil ibang istorya na yan) at syempre inaanak pag pasko. But when she asked me for a gift, this coming Christmas, I didn't hesitate to get one for her. I'm not a boastful or a flashy type of a person. And with all honesty, guys...i told her that she will get one indeed. Maybe some of you will say na ginagatasan lang ako (which could be true considering her business) but I could care less. Minsan nga nagpahaging na ko sa kanya na pwede bang mayaya sa isang date. As in formal date. Bigla nagtaka. Ako naman lumabas na naman ang pagkatorpe ayun bigla iwas sa topic. Gusto ko lang talaga siya makausap palagi kahit sa text lang. Keep in touch with her. Know what's happening with her everyday (not a stalker type ok?). Forget sex and the service. I want her to know that there is something deeper involved with the relationship that I have with her. Say anything you want. Tell me I'm stupid and an idiot. (I'm sure ma ko quote yung huling sentence. Hehe!) Di ko na alam gagawin ko eh. I'm still thinking twice maybe because it's just lust? Pero di talaga guys. I want to let her know. That's it. my advice is go for it bro, if she rejects you, then move on... kaysa naman you will regret not telling her how you feel later on.. good luck bro! Quote Link to comment
TanglewoodBoy Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 boy, you are indeed lucky, sir.gawin nya lang sa kin yun, i'd be one happy SoB. a small gesture lang, kahit ano, just to make me feel different.na kahit may umaaligid sa kanyang mas bata, mas macho, mas mayaman - maramdaman ko na angat ako sa kanila. yun lang po wish ko (paging Vicki Morales, pls )actually i texted her na pamasko na lang niya sa akin na makita siya, nyahehehehhe i was already asleep when she called na papunta na daw siya, syempre, sibat ako agad sa bahay, heheheeh anyways, good luck to you as well sir...only you can determine if special ka sa kanya, but i am sure you will make the right decisions bro!! Quote Link to comment
monazario Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I've been in this situation before and as far as any advice i can give you guys...experience is the best teacher... you learn from what you've been through...heart aches, being so foolishly in love worse being fooled by the person who you love... deeply at that.many people will advice you that being in love with a GRO/MPA etc is taboo in clubbing ... but it all boils downto your decision on whether to follow such advice or not... if you don't and say fall in love with her...then enjoy the moment... but be on guard.. you will get hurt and in the aftermath... learn from it. Quote Link to comment
crystalyx Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Oh man! Eventhough this thread could be one of the longest ones we have in this site, thoughts of you people (i haven't read all the comments yet just browsed some) encouraged me to tell the feelings I have for this girl. Love or lust? I really don't know. Nung una ko siyang nakita, I didn't even think of her being in that kind of business. A PSP if we may call it. A typical teenager na mukhang flirtatious and fun loving. Then into our deed, I don't know if this is due to lust that I wanted to be with her. We had sex but I think that is only a small part of it. Gusto ko talaga siyang makasama as in sa mga lakad, dates, without cash involved. Just wanted to be with somebody who I can talk and share fun with. I'm still single right now and there have been instances that I got interested with a girl but haven't had the courage to tell her (torpe kasi). I don't know if it is due to the fact that I already got her...if you know what I mean. But I could care less with what happened. I don't care about her past or what she does. I'm not that type of a person that will buy everything that you want just to impress you or to get a better lay. Actually I only buy presents for my sibling and parent (singular lang dahil ibang istorya na yan) at syempre inaanak pag pasko. But when she asked me for a gift, this coming Christmas, I didn't hesitate to get one for her. I'm not a boastful or a flashy type of a person. And with all honesty, guys...i told her that she will get one indeed. Maybe some of you will say na ginagatasan lang ako (which could be true considering her business) but I could care less. Minsan nga nagpahaging na ko sa kanya na pwede bang mayaya sa isang date. As in formal date. Bigla nagtaka. Ako naman lumabas na naman ang pagkatorpe ayun bigla iwas sa topic. Gusto ko lang talaga siya makausap palagi kahit sa text lang. Keep in touch with her. Know what's happening with her everyday (not a stalker type ok?). Forget sex and the service. I want her to know that there is something deeper involved with the relationship that I have with her. Say anything you want. Tell me I'm stupid and an idiot. (I'm sure ma ko quote yung huling sentence. Hehe!) Di ko na alam gagawin ko eh. I'm still thinking twice maybe because it's just lust? Pero di talaga guys. I want to let her know. That's it. Bro "no guts, no glory", "high risk, high reward". From what you've written, I would say it's no more lust, anyhow you're still single so what is holding you back? Torpe is just a natural thing lalo na kung intimidating ang dating ng chic, the best thing that you do is suck it up and unleash yourself, also be ready to crash and fall. Goodluck bro... Quote Link to comment
Itto Ogami Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) guys, guys, medyo OT pero i just wanna share this.just watched THE GIRLFRIEND EXPERIENCE starring Sasha Gray (a real porn actress) and directed by Steven Soderbergh (Traffic, Oceans Eleven, etc). great movie, parang style documentary on the life of a upscale PSP. if you're looking for hardcore sex, this is not for you. but, if you want to see things from a PSP's perspective, you would enjoy this. para di naman ma-warning-an... for StoicVampire, let this quote apply to you:"it is better to have loved and lost then never to have loved at all." just put your heart out on your sleeve, if she acknowledges you, then give it (the relationship) all you've got.if she doesn't, be happy knowing that she knows how you truly feel for her. no more "what if's" clouding your mind. Edited December 22, 2009 by IttoOgami Quote Link to comment
TanglewoodBoy Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 guys, guys, medyo OT pero i just wanna share this.just watched THE GIRLFRIEND EXPERIENCE starring Sasha Gray (a real porn actress) and directed by Steven Soderbergh (Traffic, Oceans Eleven, etc). great movie, parang style documentary on the life of a upscale PSP. if you're looking for hardcore sex, this is not for you. but, if you want to see things from a PSP's perspective, you would enjoy this. para di naman ma-warning-an... for StoicVampire, let this quote apply to you:"it is better to have loved and lost then never to have loved at all." just put your heart out on your sleeve, if she acknowledges you, then give it (the relationship) all you've got.if she doesn't, be happy knowing that she knows how you truly feel for her. no more "what if's" clouding your mind.well said bro, LOVE truly is a complicated emotion, it can bring out the best or worst in any person... Quote Link to comment
angel_by_day Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 just finished reading GRO: Lust, Lies and Videoke by a certain Arnel Aquitania. to all those who have fallen in love, or are currently in love with GRO's, MPA's, etc.....i think this is just perfect for you. :goatee: Quote Link to comment
angel_by_day Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 it's a mini-paperback actually. cheap, and more importantly, short it will take you an hour at the most to finish it. if girls like me, who have no connection whatsoever with GRO's find it entertaining, then maybe you would, too. Quote Link to comment
Itto Ogami Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 it's a mini-paperback actually. cheap, and more importantly, short it will take you an hour at the most to finish it. if girls like me, who have no connection whatsoever with GRO's find it entertaining, then maybe you would, too. nice tip, thanks. is it available @ National? Quote Link to comment
Itto Ogami Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 anyways, good luck to you as well sir...only you can determine if special ka sa kanya, but i am sure you will make the right decisions bro!! for the first time in my life, i was able to finish the Simbang Gabi! :thumbsupsmiley: i collected the 9 missalettes, stuffed them in a Christmas card, then i put a note on top of these:"dear God,....i did this for her.....please get her out.....i will be forever grateful.....Amen. me" since i don't have the financial resources to get her out of the business, i reckon this is the next best step i can take. this is the last thing i will do for her out of love. TWB's parting words struck a deep chord within me. i've searched myself and realized: i will never be special to her. i did my best to win her love, and i can live with that. unfortunately, i don't have what it takes to break through that fortress around her heart. i can - and will only - be her friend. and though the heavens curse me for falling in love with this woman under the direst of circumstances,may God redeem me for wanting nothing for her but true love and happiness. Quote Link to comment
TanglewoodBoy Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 for the first time in my life, i was able to finish the Simbang Gabi! :thumbsupsmiley: i collected the 9 missalettes, stuffed them in a Christmas card, then i put a note on top of these:"dear God,....i did this for her.....please get her out.....i will be forever grateful.....Amen. me" since i don't have the financial resources to get her out of the business, i reckon this is the next best step i can take. this is the last thing i will do for her out of love. TWB's parting words struck a deep chord within me. i've searched myself and realized: i will never be special to her. i did my best to win her love, and i can live with that. unfortunately, i don't have what it takes to break through that fortress around her heart. i can - and will only - be her friend. and though the heavens curse me for falling in love with this woman under the direst of circumstances,may God redeem me for wanting nothing for her but true love and happiness.I don't have words to say that would make you change your situation but i think you made the right decisions my friend..... maybe the times she was used and abused made her heart strong and cold that's why she can never love you the way you wanted it too... i think it's best when you just wish her happiness in life... Quote Link to comment
Itto Ogami Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 I don't have words to say that would make you change your situation but i think you made the right decisions my friend..... maybe the times she was used and abused made her heart strong and cold that's why she can never love you the way you wanted it too... i think it's best when you just wish her happiness in life... thank you, sir.and a MERRY CHRISTMAS to you, too! :hypocritesmiley: Quote Link to comment
monazario Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 lets give them love on christmas day Merry Christmas MTC! Quote Link to comment
TanglewoodBoy Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 thank you, sir.and a MERRY CHRISTMAS to you, too! :hypocritesmiley: and have a great new year as well sir!!! i still am intrigued by the name of your LOVE!! :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
StoicVampire Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 my advice is go for it bro, if she rejects you, then move on... kaysa naman you will regret not telling her how you feel later on.. good luck bro! Bro "no guts, no glory", "high risk, high reward". From what you've written, I would say it's no more lust, anyhow you're still single so what is holding you back? Torpe is just a natural thing lalo na kung intimidating ang dating ng chic, the best thing that you do is suck it up and unleash yourself, also be ready to crash and fall. Goodluck bro... Guys! Thanks a lot! I already told her. However I wasn't the one who initiated it. Nagkita lang kami to give my present to her. The one that she asked for. Konting gala sa mall then she went home na. I offered to accompany her home and she thought twice. Ewan ko kung bakit pero pumayag din. Makulit ako eh. Hehe! Tapos nung naihatid ko na then nasa jeepney na ako pauwi, bigla nagtanong. Kung may gusto raw ba ko sa kanya. Walang kagatul gatol na nagreply ako ng oo. Halata daw kasi. Hehe! Then I ask if she would give me a chance. Yeah why not ang sagot! Wahooo!!! :heart: :thumbsupsmiley: Damn! I've really fallen in love with this girl. :cool: Quote Link to comment
scofield Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Funny how i only got to know na meron pala ganito topic. hmmm. Am also guilty of falling for MPA and GRO. When you get to know the person kasi behind the JOB, thats the reason why i think we fall, when all guards are down... You will know naman if you are being taken for a ride or if there is something more. And btw, Sir IttoOgami, My motto pala is, "it is better to have loved and lost then never to have loved at all."; Problem ko lang is i tend to Fall in love while being in love, hehe. Quote Link to comment
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