Mzice Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 we are given free will so might as well use it wisely... we only lived once and after judgement na Quote Link to comment
sotnase Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 pre-destination what i believe Quote Link to comment
Unwritten Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Neither... life experiences has thought me not to hinge my hopes of redemption or salvation on such things. Everyone has their own beliefs and hopes and I respect that. I do not strive to be sinless or guiltless but only to be a good human being to another person as best as a I could... Peace. Quote Link to comment
cesare_borgia Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 both free will and pre-destination...schrodinger equation. Quote Link to comment
blue+george Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 we don't have either. if we sit down and do nothing, well, anything pre determined will never happen. one suicide then is gone. freewill as well. we have options but not everything is on the table. freewill means you can do what you want. try banging the car infront of you. try taking a bread from the bakeshop. try to step out of the office during working hours. resign and be free! correct, but that wont go far after you run out of cash. so neither... we live our lives with the options that open, that are available, that is possible for us. we cannot be all like bill gates or everyone becomes neil Armstrong or Michael Jordan. we live as what lines are possible to walk on... our lives will be what we do today that hopefully transcends into the future. Quote Link to comment
Unwritten Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 It's all about the choices we make or do not make that we live or die with. Quote Link to comment
takatakboi Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Pre- Destination = Fake news Free Will = Not Fake news Quote Link to comment
2WarningPoints Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Free will - God knows the future but somehow he restrict him self to take a peep for every individual... example? Abraham- he tested him if he would obey his command to sacrifice his son... but the major happenings he revealed via prophecy written in the bible and the soon return of the Lord Jesus. Quote Link to comment
combatjames Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 A drooling dog running like there’s no tomorrow in a fenced yard that it cannot run end to end even if it uses its entire life. Quote Link to comment
combatjames Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Parehas? Di ko naman napili ang lola ko dati (nung pinanganak ako) pero pwede ako pumili (free will) ng lola ko ngayon (among other lolas na di naman ako nagdecide kung mameet ko or hindi). Quote Link to comment
CPA Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I think it's not Free Will and Its not Pre-Destination. Both are excuses for power and self preservation but since the opposite is unthinkable we rely to this like science. Quote Link to comment
RomanticBadboy Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Free will Quote Link to comment
pH 8.2 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Both cannot exist in the same universe. If you are pre-destined there will be no free will. no matter what you do or what you choose, you will come to a pre-destined point.If you have free will then pre-destination would be false. for example you are pre-destined for hellfire but you somehow used your "free will" and got to heaven, then where's your "pre-destination" now? meh... Quote Link to comment
muad_dib Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) I guess I ascribe to this as samurais would ascribe to it...nobody gets out of life alive and that is already a certain predestined fact for all things living...but since I am of the highest order life form and the realization of my potential is of the highest importance and order...it is paramount that "I" should determine how I decide and act upon on how to achieve and proceed trough perfecting my craft in every waking moment of my life...so that in the end it will be a beautiful death...and that is free will. We may have all come come from the same sky as rain...and we may have fallen to the dry land or still and moving waters to carve our own paths of beauty or madness given whatever circumstances were present at the time...but in the end we will all return to the great cyclical design...for if we ascribe to science...We are Matter...We are neither created nor destroyed...We are always in the process of change...and our cycle design are so vast and multi-faceted for one life-cycle to observe and witness...and yet our thinking mind perceives the immensity of the design (that we even created a concept of God, The Soul and Perfection to find meaning and assurance)...so even if we were predestined in our being a part of the cyclical design of existence...it is our free-will to choose which ones to take in the journey around the multitudes of those cycles and back again. Hoping we choose the ones most functional, beneficial and enjoyable to experience but still ever clearly a part of a system and cycle. So life becomes a huge choose your own adventure book...with multiple paths to many ends (and just like that book, we learn from our choices and re-pick or move on) but the twist is that in life's choose your own adventure book it is so thick that our shelf-life of existence just won't be enough to see and experience all...we see some of it's other pages in the unfolding of its stories in other lives ( we even created a system for it...we call it History)...but never everything....and even that must have been part of the design.... Edited October 11, 2020 by muad_dib Quote Link to comment
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