Legend_Killer Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 I am not talking about who is being talked about today as the GOAT. I am talking about Jordan being destroyed time and again in the 1980s. That is their opinion but if you want, I can show you opinions of other players. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but they are not entitled to their own facts. I am not gonna say that Bird is the GOAT but he is ahead of Jordan when it comes to that status. Jordan never beat Bird in the playoffs and that's one fact that Jordan fans tend to overlook. Moreover, he couldn't get past the Pistons or Bucks in the 80s. Paulit ulit, so just because a prime Bird beat a young MJ so does Thomas and Dumars di na GOAT si MJ?, so sino GOAT sa basketball in your book? Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) Paulit ulit, so just because a prime Bird beat a young MJ so does Thomas and Dumars di na GOAT si MJ?, so sino GOAT sa basketball in your book?Yes, he couldn't possibly be a GOAT because a GOAT, for me, should beat every superstar he played against. He never beat Larry Bird in the playoffs. That is only one of the reasons why I don't consider him the GOAT. As for the other reasons, backread. Bill Russell. Edited May 19, 2019 by will robie Quote Link to comment
Legend_Killer Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Yes, he couldn't possibly be a GOAT because a GOAT, for me, should beat every superstar he played against. He never beat Larry Bird in the playoffs. That is only one of the reasons why I don't consider him the GOAT. As for the other reasons, backread. Bill Russell.LOL, there's no such player where he destroyed everybody he faces, prime Jordan is the closest to your definition of GOAT, nobody can touch him yet you're out here criticizing his first 5 years in the league, and Bill Russel?, the guy who played when there were only 10 teams in the league Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 LOL, there's no such player where he destroyed everybody he faces, prime Jordan is the closest to your definition of GOAT, nobody can touch him yet you're out here criticizing his first 5 years in the league, and Bill Russel?, the guy who played when there were only 10 teams in the leagueReally? Bill Russel destroyed every great player in his path. So what are you implying? That a league having ten teams is weak? On the contrary, when the league had 10 teams, talent was concentrated unlike today, with 30 teams, the talent is diluted. With 10 teams, only the creme de la creme can make it to the NBA. 150 players can only make it in the NBA in the 60s. Today, 450 players can make it to the NBA. Jordan is not my choice for GOAT. He is your GOAT. Quote Link to comment
Legend_Killer Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Really? Bill Russel destroyed every great player in his path. So what are you implying? That a league having ten teams is weak? On the contrary, when the league had 10 teams, talent was concentrated unlike today, with 30 teams, the talent is diluted. With 10 teams, only the creme de la creme can make it to the NBA. 150 players can only make it in the NBA in the 60s. Today, 450 players can make it to the NBA. Jordan is not my choice for GOAT. He is your GOAT. LMAO, you're really comparing destroying "great players" from 10 teams to having to face 28 or 29 other teams, stop comparing the 60's to today's NBA, people back then weren't even close to being athletic, players back then had side jobs of being a baker or mailman compared to having to commit 24/7 to training in the NBA Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 LMAO, you're really comparing destroying "great players" from 10 teams to having to face 28 or 29 other teams, stop comparing the 60's to today's NBA, people back then weren't even close to being athletic, players back then had side jobs of being a baker or mailman compared to having to commit 24/7 to training in the NBAAgain, in the 50s and 60s, only 150 players can play in the NBA which means that the talent was concentrated, unlike now, where the talent is diluted. So tell me, who were the superstars who had side jobs? Quote Link to comment
Legend_Killer Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Again, in the 50s and 60s, only 150 players can play in the NBA which means that the talent was concentrated, unlike now, where the talent is diluted. So tell me, who were the superstars who had side jobs? LMAO, only 150 players were playing because there were only 10 teams, not a lot of people with money have faith in the league back then so there's only 10 teams and you're comparing the training of the 50's and 60's to today's training?!, I didn't say superstars, I said some players back then had side jobs, try watching some NBA history videos instead of stats Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 LMAO, only 150 players were playing because there were only 10 teams, not a lot of people with money have faith in the league back then so there's only 10 teams and you're comparing the training of the 50's and 60's to today's training?!, I didn't say superstars, I said some players back then had side jobs, try watching some NBA history videos instead of statsSaying that not a lot of moneyed people having faith in the league back then is your opinion and does not really discredit what I said. The fact is only the creme de la creme of basketball players can get in the NBA back then. Quote Link to comment
Legend_Killer Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Saying that not a lot of moneyed people having faith in the league back then is your opinion and does not really discredit what I said. The fact is only the creme de la creme of basketball players can get in the NBA back then. Based on what fact?, what I've said is based on various documentaries by people INSIDE the league unlike you who likes spitting out "facts", I don't know if a part time baker or cook is what you'd call a "creme de la creme" *f#&king cringy term Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) Based on what fact?, what I've said is based on various documentaries by people INSIDE the league unlike you who likes spitting out "facts", I don't know if a part time baker or cook is what you'd call a "creme de la creme" *f#&king cringy termBased on what fact? The fact that only 150 players can play in the NBA and it goes without saying that only the creme de la creme can play in the NBA at that time. It is not my problem if you find that term cringy. Facts are the truth. You are relying on opinions of other people. Facts will always trump opinions. Edited May 31, 2019 by will robie Quote Link to comment
Legend_Killer Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) Based on what fact? The fact that only 150 players can play in the NBA and it goes without saying that only the creme de la creme can play in the NBA at that time. It is not my problem if you find that term cringy. Facts are the truth. You are relying on opinions of other people. Facts will always trump opinions. Opinions of the people who were at league at that time is better than some "know-it-all" in a forum Pilit mong sinisingit na only 150 players ang nasa league inexplain ko na nga na wala kasing nagiinvest kasi nagsisimula pa lang yung league kaya konti teams hindi dahil yung 150 pinakamagaling sa buong mundo, ayan tinagalog ko na para maintindihan mo at di paulit ulit point mo Edited June 1, 2019 by Legend_Killer Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Opinions of the people who were at league at that time is better than some "know-it-all" in a forumIf stating facts means I am a "know it all", then, yes, I am a "know it all". I have no problem with that. Pilit mong sinisingit na only 150 players ang nasa league inexplain ko na nga na wala kasing nagiinvest kasi nagsisimula pa lang yung league kaya konti teams hindi dahil yung 150 pinakamagaling sa buong mundo, ayan tinagalog ko na para maintindihan mo at di paulit ulit point moYour explanation is irrelevant. The fact is, at that time, only 150 players or the creme de la creme of basketball players can play in the NBA during that era. Quote Link to comment
Legend_Killer Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) If stating facts means I am a "know it all", then, yes, I am a "know it all". I have no problem with that. Your explanation is irrelevant. The fact is, at that time, only 150 players or the creme de la creme of basketball players can play in the NBA during that era. Yes, you're a know it all that almost half of what you pull out of your ass is wrong and the worse is you keep on defending your point, kaya nga humaba to eh kasi ayaw mong magpatalo. Based on what fact na at that time only 150 players were elite enough to play the game, your GOAT is dunking over bakers and grocery baggers, wow that's dominating /sarcasm Paano naging irrelevant yun, wala ngang nagiinvest eh kaya konti team kaya konti players, magbasa ka nga muna bago ka magreply ng mga "facts" mo Edited June 1, 2019 by Legend_Killer Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) Yes, you're a know it all that almost half of what you pull out of your ass is wrong and the worse is you keep on defending your point, kaya nga humaba to eh kasi ayaw mong magpatalo. Ayaw magpatalo? Haha! Projecting won't do you any good. The fact of the matter is you can't debunk me in the Jordan argument that is why kung saan saan na tayo napunta. Bago ka magsabi ng ayaw ko magpatalo, tignan mo muna sarili mo. Supalpal yung mga argumento mo kaya nagumpisa ka magad hominem. Based on what fact na at that time only 150 players were elite enough to play the game, your GOAT is dunking over bakers and grocery baggers, wow that's dominating /sarcasmYou have an internet. Use it wisely. Paano naging irrelevant yun, wala ngang nagiinvest eh kaya konti team kaya konti players, magbasa ka nga muna bago ka magreply ng mga "facts" moI am stating facts which you can only try to discredit with your opinions which are irrelevant. Edited June 1, 2019 by will robie Quote Link to comment
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