SaintPeter5858 Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 It's fine probably if you're single Quote Link to comment
BIZMANfan Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 You mean I am also immoral? Quote Link to comment
SaintPeter5858 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 If it's only for relaxation, no problem. Quote Link to comment
friendly0603 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 If it's only for relaxation, no problem.If you believe in Jesus/God, there probably is a problem, SaintPeter Quote Link to comment
gentle_maniac Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) Just keep your cool. The fact that you're irritated is just says that you are really not open to discussion and opinions opposite to yours isn't welcome. Nope, I'm not forcing my beliefs on others. Your negative reaction just reinforces that it's not moral. Opinion of what? Going there and innocently doing nothing. I am irritated because the manner you say things are condescending, i dont mind being told off as long as it is respectful, and don't tell me u don't get comments like this from other topics as well. u are telling that EVERYONE who goes there does something immoral? His enemies are his God's enemies as well. Why wouldn't God grant him his dying wish? It is to God's advantage as well. If that is your definition of ok, I think you have to re-think or ask your leader if that is the truth. These examples are given to give you hope that you can change if you are already on the same boat. Not to follow the mistakes they made at the present because you can still change at the end. This says it's ok to do immoral/bad stuff now because I can still change later. But it's up to you. I don't even know what u are saying here. There you go, an admission that it isn't moral. I believe morality is a societal definition, not a personal one. You can't say that it's moral just for me to go to these places when everyone else doesn't agree to it. A personal morality with religious belief? I believe you understand what i meant, i admitted that society and religious sects says it's immoral, why the hel# did i start this topic for? Edited June 15, 2012 by gentle_maniac Quote Link to comment
friendly0603 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) I am irritated because the manner you say things are condescending, i dont mind being told off as long as it is respectful, and don't tell me u don't get comments like this from other topics as well. u are telling that EVERYONE who goes there does something immoral?It's your perception of my posts that is condescending. Actually, not a lot. Some, yes.I am not telling everyone does immoral things in those places. You don't have to go there if you are really moral. We aren't looking for exceptions here. That is the purpose of those places. So let's not make it like it's a normal place that normal people go to. Because we wouldn't tell our gf/spouse/parents/boss that we are going there to do nothing. Even if you do nothing, the perception is you did something. If you believe in the Catholic God and most religions ban this kind of places, you know it's immoral. Now, if you don't believe in God. Then you are free to go there as you please. Let's just call a spade a spade. Not re-color/edit the spade so that it becomes a heart. I don't even know what u are saying here.You already forgotten your "be like Samson comment". That's ok to be like him and die for his dying wish which serves God's purpose. That's why it was granted. The stories/lessons in the bible are examples of people who were bad and try to change at the end because they found God. Not for those knowing God and think it's ok to make mistakes now and then change later at the end. i admitted that society and religious sects says it's immoral, why the hel# did i start this topic for?I think you are trying to find other people who are like you or try to justify getting entertainment in these places with some personal limitations and acceptance. If that's the case, clarify your topic since Clubbing is generic and mostly refers to the immoral things considered by society. There are even people who hire escorts yet do nothing with them. Edited June 15, 2012 by friendly0603 Quote Link to comment
asmodeus Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I personally think all these morality mumbo jumbo is just a set of rules ....... whether or not its wrong would depend on whether one believes (or is for) these set of "rules" in the first place. I guess so as long as I'm not hurting anybody, then I guess that should pass. Quote Link to comment
BrightestStar Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 If you have a wife and kids, it is of course immoral! Quote Link to comment
307 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 we can always justify our actions....in the end its what matters the most to us. Quote Link to comment
monazario Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 human conduct in so far as it is freely subordinated to the ideal of what is right and fitting - so the question is really... what is right in our society?... gray area. that's it. Quote Link to comment
BrightestStar Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 For singles, no problem I guess. Quote Link to comment
SaintPeter5858 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 It's probably wrong if you're over 30 years old Quote Link to comment
friendly0603 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) If the intention is evil, then the act becomes negative tooIf it's sexual in natureINtention of course plays a big role in our judgment.It's fine probably if you're singleIf you have a wife and kids, it is of course immoral!For singles, no problem I guess. Edited June 20, 2012 by friendly0603 Quote Link to comment
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