Is Clubbing Morally Wrong ?

[307]

there's nothing wrong wth clubbing as long as we can justify it. why let other dictate what is for us when we are free

[friendly0603]

there's nothing wrong wth clubbing as long as we can justify it. why let other dictate what is for us when we are free

Is that the rule? Are you truly free? What is/are your justification(s)?

[grayle]

My motivation for clubbing (and I don't mean the swanky kind with GROs in them) is to unwind after a hard week at work with friends. It's a chance to let the stress out and talk about the week with friends. Do I sometimes bump into acquaintances or my friend's acquaintances during these nights? Sure I do. Both men and women go to these places to be noticed, and that usually involves showing off their best features. That doesn't mean that these places are morally wrong. It all boils down to why your there. If your there for the sole purpose of hooking up and taking someone home, then by all means that's immoral. But if I'm there just to unwind and party with my friends, I don't see how that could be any worse than going to Boracay with them and hanging out on the beach.

[chrispt21]

f a woman wants to take her clothes off in front of people what is wrong with being paid for it?

 

If a man wants to see a naked woman and that woman is WILLING to strip for him for cash what is wrong with it? Its not as if he is ripping the clothes off a woman who don’t want him to see her naked.

[gentle_maniac]

Hahaha! No nerve stricken. The title says moral. Isn't that supposed to be righteous? Must be a different definition of moral then.

 

Like I said, using Samson is wrong. People can take the same token about King David, King Solomon, Abraham and most other figures in the bible who practiced polygamy. Anyway, I think Samson died to atone for what he did. How did that turn out ok? Samson was never heard of again. He asked God to give him one last opportunity to defeat his enemies and died in the process. How do you want to be like Samson?

 

It's not foul because your belief is most likely the basis of your morality or at least should be. If it's not, don't declare one belief and practice another.

 

Did I say it was wrong? I based it on how religion should view it. It's not my personal take on it. I think this thread should be in the religion, philosophy & personal reflection.

 

I don't judge people. I just want to understand your take on it.

 

Sure, I see that in artists who create different works of art with nudity. I can look at semi-nude tribes/natives with no lust and in daylight. Not in clubs

 

It's not just watching that happens in clubs, do you agree? Or are you that naive? Otherwise, there shouldn't be any VIPs, barfine and the like

 

You just can't help it can't you? Forcing your own beliefs to others and irritating them at the same time, this is not a debate, I just want to get people's opinion.

 

On Samson, for him to commit a big mistake, letting his people down for many years, going blind, being ridiculed by his enemies. He is at his lowest point, yet God grant him his last request taking down with him more Philistines than all he did put together, how could that not be ok? If I were in the same boat as he is, i would do the same.

 

On clubbing, society or religious sects will see the negative. Nude women and drinking is not moral period. It is to up people who go there and define their own moral take on clubbing. Are you the one say I go to clubs but i don't do sex and go overboard on drinking? Who would believe you if not a person who also goes to clubs.

 

Clubs offer VIPs and barfine, but not everyone engages this, or are you that naive? And what does happen inside the VIP? Would you know every time? For all we know, they just like to sing.

[friendly0603]

You just can't help it can't you? Forcing your own beliefs to others and irritating them at the same time, this is not a debate, I just want to get people's opinion.

Just keep your cool. The fact that you're irritated is just says that you are really not open to discussion and opinions opposite to yours isn't welcome. Nope, I'm not forcing my beliefs on others. Your negative reaction just reinforces that it's not moral. Opinion of what? Going there and innocently doing nothing.

On Samson, for him to commit a big mistake, letting his people down for many years, going blind, being ridiculed by his enemies. He is at his lowest point, yet God grant him his last request taking down with him more Philistines than all

he did put together, how could that not be ok? If I were in the same boat as he is, i would do the same.

His enemies are his God's enemies as well. Why wouldn't God grant him his dying wish? It is to God's advantage as well. If that is your definition of ok, I think you have to re-think or ask your leader if that is the truth. These examples are given to give you hope that you can change if you are already on the same boat. Not to follow the mistakes they made at the present because you can still change at the end. This says it's ok to do immoral/bad stuff now because I can still change later. But it's up to you.

On clubbing, society or religious sects will see the negative. Nude women and drinking is not moral period. It is to up people who go there and define their own moral take on clubbing. Are you the one say I go to clubs but i don't do sex and go overboard on drinking? Who would believe you if not a person who also goes to clubs.

Clubs offer VIPs and barfine, but not everyone engages this, or are you that naive? And what does happen inside the VIP? Would you know every time? For all we know, they just like to sing.

There you go, an admission that it isn't moral. I believe morality is a societal definition, not a personal one. You can't say that it's moral just for me to go to these places when everyone else doesn't agree to it. A personal morality with religious belief?

 

If you just like to sing, then go to a regular karaoke place like Music21 or RedBox or other family KTVs. Why do you need to go to the redlight district? That is why these places are given their reputation. There are other places if you are really doing nothing immoral.

 

Anyway, I've said my piece. I just wanted to know your take on this.

[friendly0603]

f a woman wants to take her clothes off in front of people what is wrong with being paid for it?

 

If a man wants to see a naked woman and that woman is WILLING to strip for him for cash what is wrong with it? Its not as if he is ripping the clothes off a woman who don’t want him to see her naked.

Are you sure you would still say that if it was someone you know or related to you?

[chrispt21]

The finger of morality can be pointed at just about anyone but if none is being harmed in the process what is the big deal?

 

It seems to me that the only people who complain about such are people who don’t want to participate. All I can say to this is why don't we just go live in a dictatorship and dictate what others can't do. Everyone would lose because what is right for some is wrong for others.

[SaintPeter5858]

If it's sexual in nature

[SweetSexyLOVER]

Most of the time yes.

[ladyboy]

lahat naman sex ang habol

[SaintPeter5858]

That's possible

[SaintPeter5858]

INtention of course plays a big role in our judgment.

[mojofreak]

 

Let us face it - clubbing is sexual in nature.

 

If you take clubbing in the context of social sin, then everybody is committing a sin to some extent. However, if you take clubbing in the context of practicality, then I don't see anything wrong with partnering angels and enjoying the night. I think people who haven't experienced clubbing are underestimating the people who work there as well as the people who patronize these establishments.

 

It is really easy for any person looking outside and applying their own biases on clubbing. My suggestion would be - experience it first before judging whether its morally wrong or not. Moreover, there are a lot of variations of clubbing nowadays and it entirely depends on the culture of the club whether they want to stretch out their "services" or not.

 

[friendly0603]

The finger of morality can be pointed at just about anyone but if none is being harmed in the process what is the big deal?

 

It seems to me that the only people who complain about such are people who don’t want to participate. All I can say to this is why don't we just go live in a dictatorship and dictate what others can't do. Everyone would lose because what is right for some is wrong for others.

Actually most of the people who would complain about this are not in this forum. The dictatorship card is the wrong card to play. It's actually society and religion that make the morals that tell you what you should/shouldn't do. What is right is should be right. It's just that morality changes. Slavery was right/acceptable in the olden days but now isn't right. But when it was acceptable, there were no repercussions.

 

Let us face it - clubbing is sexual in nature.

If you take clubbing in the context of social sin, then everybody is committing a sin to some extent. However, if you take clubbing in the context of practicality, then I don't see anything wrong with partnering angels and enjoying the night. I think people who haven't experienced clubbing are underestimating the people who work there as well as the people who patronize these establishments.

 

It is really easy for any person looking outside and applying their own biases on clubbing. My suggestion would be - experience it first before judging whether its morally wrong or not. Moreover, there are a lot of variations of clubbing nowadays and it entirely depends on the culture of the club whether they want to stretch out their "services" or not.

Can morality = practicality in society's context as far as clubbing? Why did the New york mayor and the soldiers lose their position? Ask a religious or some morally upright person to experience it and let me know what his judgement is. As far stretching "services", that's why the reputation of clubs has gained notoriety.