Is Clubbing Morally Wrong ?

[chrispt21]

No! But people need to take responsibility for their own choices, actions and the consequences thereof.

[SaintPeter5858]

If your intention is sex, it's wrong!

[U.P. AdMU2008]

For singles like me, it's ok.

[MisterChow]

single pa ko so hindi ito isang kamalian para sa aking pananaw

[friendly0603]

I have heard of that, lustful thoughts being a sin, but it is one thing to do something about it and another to control it, same as the 7 deadly sins. Is anger, pride, envy and lust actually a sin? These are human emotions or reaction that are normal, it becames a sin if u act out of it. the Bible also mentioned great men who went to clubs or bars, Samson for instance.

There are polygamous men in the bible. Are we allowed to be polygamous?

 

If your intention is sex, it's wrong!

What else is the intention? So if you want to just lustfully look at half-naked women, it's ok?

 

For singles like me, it's ok.

 

single pa ko so hindi ito isang kamalian para sa aking pananaw

Having lustful thoughts and having sex with those that you aren't married to are ok?

 

I dare both of you to go to your priest/rabbi/religious leader and confirm that it's ok

[gentle_maniac]

There are polygamous men in the bible. Are we allowed to be polygamous?

 

Going to clubs doesn't mean you are polygamous, i even said that as long as u don't hurt anyone, i think it is fine.

 

 

 

 

 

Having lustful thoughts and having sex with those that you aren't married to are ok?

 

I dare both of you to go to your priest/rabbi/religious leader and confirm that it's ok

 

I think that as long as it is consented then there is nothing wrong

Edited May 21, 2012 by gentle_maniac

[friendly0603]

Going to clubs doesn't mean you are polygamous, i even said that as long as u don't hurt anyone, i think it is fine.

I think that as long as it is consented then there is nothing wrong

You gave an example of Samson from the bible going to clubs and that makes it ok. I said that polygamy is in the bible and it doesn't make it ok even if it's there.

Therefore, Samson bible example is wrong to use as evidence of clubbing as "ok".

 

Prostitution is against the law. But it is morally ok?

I'm confused. I know that legal doesn't equate to moral. But that means we can do anything considered morally acceptable even if it is illegal.

 

By the way, who defines your moral standards? Is it just you? Or your religious beliefs? If your religious belief defines what is moral, please check it with your religious leaders. I assume that they won't agree with you. But if it's just you, then you have the right to whatever is moral to you.

[SaintPeter5858]

If the intention is immoral in the first place

[friendly0603]

If the intention is immoral in the first place

What is a possible moral intention?

Edited May 22, 2012 by friendly0603

[SweetSexyLOVER]

It's all about flesh I guess.

[SaintPeter5858]

If the intention is evil, then the act becomes negative too

[gentle_maniac]

You gave an example of Samson from the bible going to clubs and that makes it ok. I said that polygamy is in the bible and it doesn't make it ok even if it's there.

Therefore, Samson bible example is wrong to use as evidence of clubbing as "ok".

 

Prostitution is against the law. But it is morally ok?

I'm confused. I know that legal doesn't equate to moral. But that means we can do anything considered morally acceptable even if it is illegal.

 

By the way, who defines your moral standards? Is it just you? Or your religious beliefs? If your religious belief defines what is moral, please check it with your religious leaders. I assume that they won't agree with you. But if it's just you, then you have the right to whatever is moral to you.

 

Wooohh, did i strike a nerve here, don't need to be Mr. Righteous here. I may have indicated Samson as an example so that clubbing is ok, since he turned out ok. You don't need to drag a person's religious beliefs here, that's foul.

 

Your argument is that watching semi-nude women is wrong since thinking about naked women is wrong. But didn't u think that not all people have lustful thoughts when looking at semi-nude women?

[friendly0603]

Wooohh, did i strike a nerve here, don't need to be Mr. Righteous here. I may have indicated Samson as an example so that clubbing is ok, since he turned out ok. You don't need to drag a person's religious beliefs here, that's foul.

 

Your argument is that watching semi-nude women is wrong since thinking about naked women is wrong. But didn't u think that not all people have lustful thoughts when looking at semi-nude women?

Hahaha! No nerve stricken. The title says moral. Isn't that supposed to be righteous? Must be a different definition of moral then.

 

Like I said, using Samson is wrong. People can take the same token about King David, King Solomon, Abraham and most other figures in the bible who practiced polygamy. Anyway, I think Samson died to atone for what he did. How did that turn out ok? Samson was never heard of again. He asked God to give him one last opportunity to defeat his enemies and died in the process. How do you want to be like Samson?

 

It's not foul because your belief is most likely the basis of your morality or at least should be. If it's not, don't declare one belief and practice another.

 

Did I say it was wrong? I based it on how religion should view it. It's not my personal take on it. I think this thread should be in the religion, philosophy & personal reflection.

 

I don't judge people. I just want to understand your take on it.

 

Sure, I see that in artists who create different works of art with nudity. I can look at semi-nude tribes/natives with no lust and in daylight. Not in clubs

 

It's not just watching that happens in clubs, do you agree? Or are you that naive? Otherwise, there shouldn't be any VIPs, barfine and the like

[chrispt21]

There are many morally incorrect things out there, but as long as people are gonna pay for them, someone is gonna provide that service, and as long as these services do not harm anyone, what is wrong with them?

[friendly0603]

There are many morally incorrect things out there, but as long as people are gonna pay for them, someone is gonna provide that service, and as long as these services do not harm anyone, what is wrong with them?

That's what I mean. You know it's morally incorrect yet ask what is wrong with that if it doesn't harm anyone.

Or is it you just pretend not to know the harm that it does?

 

Why can't you tell everyone (mom/sister/pastor/CEO/teacher) that you go to these places? There's no harm and nothing wrong with it, right?

Why are you afraid of being seen in those places by the normal people around you? The ones who would give you a judgmental look or who actually think you are a good guy? Why can't you tell your younger adolescent or kid brother/sister about these kind of places? There's nothing wrong with it.