dungeonbaby Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 So Kim Kardashian tweeted "no justice" in reference to the verdict of the Zimmerman case. Her dad was OJ Simpson's lawyer. Really? 😐 perhaps she was being ironic. lol. my status on this thread is now official lol-ler. Quote Link to comment
harmless0810 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 University of Pennsylvania Professor: American God a 'White Racist' http://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Breitbart/Big-Journalism/2013/03/31/anthea.jpg Anthea Butler, an Associate Professor of Religious Studies and Graduate Chair in the Department of Religious Studies at the University of Pennsylvania, writes in Religious Dispatches magazine that she has decided that the acquittal of George Zimmerman means that America’s God is a white racist. Butler wrote: God ain’t good all of the time. In fact, sometimes, God is not for us. As a black woman in an nation that has taken too many pains to remind me that I am not a white man, and am not capable of taking care of my reproductive rights, or my voting rights, I know that this American god ain’t my god. As a matter of fact, I think he’s a white racist god with a problem. Butler continued to write that good conservative American Christians fear black and brown people: When George Zimmerman told Sean Hannity that it was God’s will that he shot and killed Trayvon Martin, he was diving right into what most good conservative Christians in America think right now. Whatever makes them protected, safe, and secure, is worth it at the expense of the black and brown people they fear. Butler wrote: While many continue to proclaim that the religious right is over, they're wrong. The religious right is flourishing, and unlike the right of the 1970s, religious conservatism of the 21st century is in bed with the prison industrial complex, the Koch brothers, the NRA—all while proclaiming that they are "pro-life." They are anything but. They are the ones who thought that what George Zimmerman did was right, and I am sure my inbox will be full of well-meaning evangelical sermons about how we should all just get along, and God doesn’t see race. Please send them elsewhere. Butler concluded by saying that religious people have a responsibility to tell "all of the story" and not just the "nice touchy-feely parts," and that Christian Americans are some of the "biggest racists." She made a call of responsibility for all of those "not for human flourishing." is she side show bob's sister? haven't watched the simpsons for a long time. Quote Link to comment
dungeonbaby Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 University of Pennsylvania Professor: American God a 'White Racist' ... is she side show bob's sister? haven't watched the simpsons for a long time. she's the graduate chair in the department of religious studies? i'm going to go out on a limb and guess that this professor is a proponent of liberation theology also. i could be wrong but i don't understand the racial animosity when apparently homicide in the african-american community is ascribable to african-americans 94% of the time. ... university professors have it so good - protected employment under the tenure system, a pulpit from which to spout your political views, power over your students, and a comfortable salary. student loans are now in the trillion dollar territory and higher than credit card debt. for decades, college costs have been rising as much as 7% a year, according to the wall street journal, faster than inflation. that sounds ridiculous especially when you know that the "cost culprit" is labor. ... isn't side show bob a crazy a** white cracker? 1 Quote Link to comment
harmless0810 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 [/size] she's the graduate chair in the department of religious studies? i'm going to go out on a limb and guess that this professor is a proponent of liberation theology also. i could be wrong but i don't understand the racial animosity when apparently homicide in the african-american community is ascribable to african-americans 94% of the time. ... university professors have it so good - protected employment under the tenure system, a pulpit from which to spout your political views, power over your students, and a comfortable salary. student loans are now in the trillion dollar territory and higher than credit card debt. for decades, college costs have been rising as much as 7% a year, according to the wall street journal, faster than inflation. that sounds ridiculous especially when you know that the "cost culprit" is labor. ... isn't side show bob a crazy a** white cracker?black liberation theology is practiced by jeremiah wright, obama's pastor for 20 years. it's core belief is the redistribution of property from the rich to the poor. wright's speeches are full of hate. years ago, he insulted an accomplished woman by calling her condeskeeza rice. yes, that is how tenure works. it's the closest thing to a risk free employment. about side show bob, he was krusty the clown's former sidekick. well...he's more of a crazed criminal than a cracker. before i forget, cheers for mtf for his post. kim kardashian has to be kareful with her komments. Quote Link to comment
dungeonbaby Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) black liberation theology is practiced by jeremiah wright, obama's pastor for 20 years. it's core belief is the redistribution of property from the rich to the poor. wright's speeches are full of hate. years ago, he insulted an accomplished woman by calling her condeskeeza rice. yes, that is how tenure works. it's the closest thing to a risk free employment. about side show bob, he was krusty the clown's former sidekick. well...he's more of a crazed criminal than a cracker. before i forget, cheers for mtf for his post. kim kardashian has to be kareful with her komments. i know you like ben carson, as i do. he was saying on hannity that george zimmerman should have been tried for manslaughter, convicted, and gotten 1-2 years in prison, then people would eventually forget about him and he wouldn't have to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life - which is what may happen now that he's been acquitted. trayvon martin's life did end at his hands. now i do believe a person has a right to defend himself so i wouldn't have agreed with mr. carson if not for the belief that you do have to pay somehow for the life you take even if an intent was absent or if your actions were justified. i grew up watching the simpsons and sideshow bob is as creepy as a cartoon can get. speaking of despicable things... what the mohair fork is up with the new rolling stones cover? no matter the disclaimer about describing dzhokhar tsarnaev, the boston marathon bomber, as a monster, the cover itself does a good job of glamorizing a terrorist. Edited July 18, 2013 by dungeonbaby Quote Link to comment
viral Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) My humble, two bits' worth is that the uni-polar paradigm of preeminence, that of a single country being top dog at a given point in history (in economic and military terms) started to unravel with the industrial revolution which offered the opportunity for different societies to create wealth on a mass scale. As a young nation uniquely founded on democratic principles that unleashed the creativity and energies of people who had fled the Old World to build better lives, America benefited most from riding the industrial revolution because of its human and natural resources, and its distance from the rest of the world. America succeeded in building industrial capability second to none, which was probably the key factor in the outcome of WWII along with its military successes of course, the war being the most decisive event shaping the 20th century. Hence the American Century. But the technologies of the industrial revolution, the ability to create wealth on an unprecedented scale, continued to grow and spread among nations and one of its results today is the wider access to education, information and knowledge which in turn produces even better technologies, notably IT. The ability to create wealth is no longer unique to one or a few nations, so that increasingly we are seeing a multi-polar world in terms of economic capability, military power, and political influence. The Europeans, who were warring among themselves on a massive scale only 68 years ago, after centuries of warfare, have found it better to work together and are now the EU. China has learned that instead of socialism, creating wealth is the key to strength on the world stage, and in Asia at least it will be the big man on the block in coming decades. My fearless prediction is although China is building a big stick in its military, it will have the pragmatism to focus on economic instead of military pursuits for the good of its people. They lost millions in the Cultural Revolution and I'm not sure they want to lose any more, and in any case, for what advantage? Necessarily, America will lose / is losing its global preeminence. The best scenario for the future role of the U.S. in the world is that of being primus inter pares, first among equals. And like it or not, America does have worrisome problems, especially its economy which has become increasingly noncompetitive, and instead of creating and sharing wealth, is premised on acquiring it without producing it, in other words, greed. Jeez, derivatives. Edited July 18, 2013 by viral Quote Link to comment
harmless0810 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 i know you like ben carson, as i do. he was saying on hannity that george zimmerman should have been tried for manslaughter, convicted, and gotten 1-2 years in prison, then people would eventually forget about him and he wouldn't have to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life - which is what may happen now that he's been acquitted. trayvon martin's life did end at his hands. now i do believe a person has a right to defend himself so i wouldn't have agreed with mr. carson if not for the belief that you do have to pay somehow for the life you take even if an intent was absent or if your actions were justified. i grew up watching the simpsons and sideshow bob is as creepy as a cartoon can get. speaking of despicable things... what the mohair fork is up with the new rolling stones cover? no matter the disclaimer about describing dzhokhar tsarnaev, the boston marathon bomber, as a monster, the cover itself does a good job of glamorizing a terrorist.the prosecution over charged zimmerman. a manslaughter charge in the zimmerman case carries a sentence of at least 20 years according to lawyers ben shapiro and joel pollak. the legendary lawyer alan dershowitz, said that it should have gotten to a grand jury first. they will then determine if there were enough grounds for a trial. dershowitz wants special prosecutor angela cory disbarred for her misconduct during the proceedings. black civil rights attorney leo terrell agreed with the verdict and lashed out at the media and told them they were a disgrace. he also warned the race profiteers to stop their destructive agenda. he joked in disbelief that he sided with hannity for the first time. they crossed swords many times before. dr. carson's comment was well-meaning. the case was so confusing even the charge of manslaughter was thought to be lenient in this case. only a not guilty verdict will free zimmerman. upto now, the prosecution are still trying the case. jasmine rand, a lawyer for the trayvon martin family, said to greta van susteren it was an injustice and she wants to pursue a civil case against zimmerman. she said that she is a social activist first and a lawyer second. van susteren challenged rand. van susteren wanted rand to look at her civil cases and asked rand if she could match her record. rand backed away from her statements. a revelation was rachel jenteal. dr. walter williams, a professor of economics, wanted to know why educators enabled jenteal. she can't read cursive and she had a hard time communicating. dr. williams said that her level of education is only at the 4th grade elementary level. he's wondering why would they let her graduate high school a year from now. in addition, it was rarely reported that jenteal uttered "that's retarded" several times during her testimony. she used "retarded" as a substitute for no, not true or incorrect. the country's failed educational system reared its ugly head again. now, we go to the culture wars. there are so many links with this post. the interesting ones, including james woods, are at the website, twitchy. Celebs Decry Rolling Stone Putting Alleged Terrorist on Front Cover http://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Breitbart/Big-Journalism/2013/07/17/rolling-stone-magazine-Jahar-Tsarnaev-boston-bomber-cover.jpg by Christian Toto 17 Jul 2013 The cover of Rolling Stone was once reserved for the newest bands, the hottest singer-songwriters or the pop culture phenoms grabbing the country by the scruff of its neck. By using that once revered space for an alleged terrorist, the magazine is squandering plenty of its accumulated good will. Even Hollywood denizens are speaking out against the use of alleged Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev on its cover. Doug Ellin, best known as one of the creative forces behind HBO's Entourage, set the tone with this succinct Tweet: Making a great album isn't enough to get you on the cover of rolling stone anymore. Blowing up kids is. #pathetic Ralph Macchio of Karate Kid fame, retweeted Ellin's message to share the actor's frustration with his followers. Others blasting Rolling Stone's editorial decision include musician Tommy Lee, Jack Osbourne, John Rich, Carson Daly and Disturbed singer David Draiman. Even Captain America himself, Chris Evans, weighed in on the matter: Bad move, Rolling Stone Even the official Twitter feed for The Howard Stern Show, a radio program known for its no holds barred humor, spoke out against the cover choice. Good morning! Howard loves @RollingStone but is very offended by their cover with the Boston Bomber on it. http://bit.ly/11W330c The magazine officially responded to the controversy today: Our hearts go out to the victims of the Boston Marathon bombing, and our thoughts are always with them and their families. The cover story we are publishing this week falls within the traditions of journalism and Rolling Stone's long-standing commitment to serious and thoughtful coverage of the most important political and cultural issues of our day. The fact that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is young, and in the same age group as many of our readers, makes it all the more important for us to examine the complexities of this issue and gain a more complete understanding of how a tragedy like this happens. Quote Link to comment
dungeonbaby Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 the prosecution over charged zimmerman. a manslaughter charge in the zimmerman case carries a sentence of at least 20 years according to lawyers ben shapiro and joel pollak. the legendary lawyer alan dershowitz, said that it should have gotten to a grand jury first. they will then determine if there were enough grounds for a trial. dershowitz wants special prosecutor angela cory disbarred for her misconduct during the proceedings. black civil rights attorney leo terrell agreed with the verdict and lashed out at the media and told them they were a disgrace. he also warned the race profiteers to stop their destructive agenda. he joked in disbelief that he sided with hannity for the first time. they crossed swords many times before. dr. carson's comment was well-meaning. the case was so confusing even the charge of manslaughter was thought to be lenient in this case. only a not guilty verdict will free zimmerman. upto now, the prosecution are still trying the case. jasmine rand, a lawyer for the trayvon martin family, said to greta van susteren it was an injustice and she wants to pursue a civil case against zimmerman. she said that she is a social activist first and a lawyer second. van susteren challenged rand. van susteren wanted rand to look at her civil cases and asked rand if she could match her record. rand backed away from her statements. a revelation was rachel jenteal. dr. walter williams, a professor of economics, wanted to know why educators enabled jenteal. she can't read cursive and she had a hard time communicating. dr. williams said that her level of education is only at the 4th grade elementary level. he's wondering why would they let her graduate high school a year from now. in addition, it was rarely reported that jenteal uttered "that's retarded" several times during her testimony. she used "retarded" as a substitute for no, not true or incorrect. the country's failed educational system reared its ugly head again. think it was legal analyst lis wiehl who said as much about the mandatory 20 years for manslaughter in the zimmerman case. 20 years would have been too much, true. for every person who says the acquittal means mothers will always fear for their children going somewhere as mundane as the local 7-11, there is someone that says a guilty verdict would mean citizens could never again be sure that they have a right to self-defense. saw that when leo terrell said for the first time he agreed with hannity, which was surprising. also saw greta challenge that young female lawyer with her civil rights record, i had never seen greta bare her teeth like that. anyway, it's over, mainstream media should stop trying to convict zimmerman. stevie wonder might not do a concert in florida any time soon, but will he also boycott the 30 other states that have some version of the stand-your-ground law. Quote Link to comment
harmless0810 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 (edited) Tom Bergeron ✔ @Tom_Bergeron Just saw the latest @RollingStone cover. Unbelievable. Was this instead of their Al-Qaeda swimsuit edition? DAVID DRAIMAN ✔ @DAVIDMDRAIMAN THATS MORE LIKE IT...#BoycottRollingStone #GlorifiesTerrorists pic.twitter.com/hcsDSAoFGR 8:07 PM - 18 Jul 2013 Brett Rosner @Brosner85 The Boston Herald does not approve of the Tsarnaev Rolling Stone cover: pic.twitter.com/8W76ioGMm6 7:43 PM - 18 Jul 2013 http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1210585147/Tapper__reasonably_small.jpg Jake Tapper @jaketapper CNN Anchor and Chief Washington Correspondent. http://dfo9svwruwoho.cloudfront.net/images/info-wedge.png http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/791644545.png?1374159474 @teala This would have been a much better @RollingStone cover #BostonStrong pic.twitter.com/UMbx5LKZVd8:26 AM - 18 Jul 2013 3 fatalities from the bombing, one police officer killed in the line of duty, and 268 people were injured. martin richard's 10 year old sister lost a leg. why? Edited July 19, 2013 by harmless0810 Quote Link to comment
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viral Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) the prosecution over charged zimmerman. a manslaughter charge in the zimmerman case carries a sentence of at least 20 years according to lawyers ben shapiro and joel pollak. the legendary lawyer alan dershowitz, said that it should have gotten to a grand jury first. they will then determine if there were enough grounds for a trial. dershowitz wants special prosecutor angela cory disbarred for her misconduct during the proceedings. black civil rights attorney leo terrell agreed with the verdict and lashed out at the media and told them they were a disgrace. he also warned the race profiteers to stop their destructive agenda. he joked in disbelief that he sided with hannity for the first time. they crossed swords many times before. dr. carson's comment was well-meaning. the case was so confusing even the charge of manslaughter was thought to be lenient in this case. only a not guilty verdict will free zimmerman. upto now, the prosecution are still trying the case. jasmine rand, a lawyer for the trayvon martin family, said to greta van susteren it was an injustice and she wants to pursue a civil case against zimmerman. she said that she is a social activist first and a lawyer second. van susteren challenged rand. van susteren wanted rand to look at her civil cases and asked rand if she could match her record. rand backed away from her statements. a revelation was rachel jenteal. dr. walter williams, a professor of economics, wanted to know why educators enabled jenteal. she can't read cursive and she had a hard time communicating. dr. williams said that her level of education is only at the 4th grade elementary level. he's wondering why would they let her graduate high school a year from now. in addition, it was rarely reported that jenteal uttered "that's retarded" several times during her testimony. she used "retarded" as a substitute for no, not true or incorrect. the country's failed educational system reared its ugly head again. now, we go to the culture wars. there are so many links with this post. the interesting ones, including james woods, are at the website, twitchy. Celebs Decry Rolling Stone Putting Alleged Terrorist on Front Cover http://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Breitbart/Big-Journalism/2013/07/17/rolling-stone-magazine-Jahar-Tsarnaev-boston-bomber-cover.jpg by Christian Toto 17 Jul 2013 The cover of Rolling Stone was once reserved for the newest bands, the hottest singer-songwriters or the pop culture phenoms grabbing the country by the scruff of its neck. By using that once revered space for an alleged terrorist, the magazine is squandering plenty of its accumulated good will. Even Hollywood denizens are speaking out against the use of alleged Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev on its cover. Doug Ellin, best known as one of the creative forces behind HBO's Entourage, set the tone with this succinct Tweet: Making a great album isn't enough to get you on the cover of rolling stone anymore. Blowing up kids is. #pathetic Ralph Macchio of Karate Kid fame, retweeted Ellin's message to share the actor's frustration with his followers. Others blasting Rolling Stone's editorial decision include musician Tommy Lee, Jack Osbourne, John Rich, Carson Daly and Disturbed singer David Draiman. Even Captain America himself, Chris Evans, weighed in on the matter: Bad move, Rolling Stone Even the official Twitter feed for The Howard Stern Show, a radio program known for its no holds barred humor, spoke out against the cover choice. Good morning! Howard loves @RollingStone but is very offended by their cover with the Boston Bomber on it. http://bit.ly/11W330c The magazine officially responded to the controversy today: Our hearts go out to the victims of the Boston Marathon bombing, and our thoughts are always with them and their families. The cover story we are publishing this week falls within the traditions of journalism and Rolling Stone's long-standing commitment to serious and thoughtful coverage of the most important political and cultural issues of our day. The fact that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is young, and in the same age group as many of our readers, makes it all the more important for us to examine the complexities of this issue and gain a more complete understanding of how a tragedy like this happens. The work of intelligent journalism is to report, to provoke thought, and to offer inputs enabling readers to develop a view to an event in its fullest context. Then they can arrived at more informed opinions. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was the doer, the prime mover behind the Boston Marathon bombing. He caused it to happen. From a journalistic standpoint, I can accept why the editors put him on the cover, distasteful as it might seem. Putting the victims on the cover would have been the humanly empathetic thing to do, but it would have deviated from the focus of journalism. By the same token, that is why books are written about serial killers and other sociopaths, not their victims.. Edited July 20, 2013 by viral Quote Link to comment
maxiev Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 The work of intelligent journalism is to report, to provoke thought, and to offer inputs enabling readers to develop a view to an event in its fullest context. Then they can arrived at more informed opinions. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was the doer, the prime mover behind the Boston Marathon bombing. He caused it to happen. From a journalistic standpoint, I can accept why the editors put him on the cover, distasteful as it might seem. Putting the victims on the cover would have been the humanly empathetic thing to do, but it would have deviated from the focus of journalism. By the same token, that is why books are written about serial killers and other sociopaths, not their victims..Well yeah but Rolling Stones Magazine has a very large readership. I can't understand why such a respected and renowned magazine could feature a terrorist on its front cover when there are so many other people out there more deserving of the honor of being featured on the front cover. If he was an activist who advocated non-violence in pursuit of his cause, then maybe the backlash wouldn't have been as extreme. You can imagine if the magazine featured Ted Bundy on its front page. Think of all the negative publicity that would have been generated. Obviously, the magazine provoked much more than thought. It provoked anger and may have greatly eroded the prestige it had built up over such a long period of time. A boycott of the magazine may have dire consequences for its bottom line. After all, the publication IS also a business. Quote Link to comment
viral Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Well yeah but Rolling Stones Magazine has a very large readership. I can't understand why such a respected and renowned magazine could feature a terrorist on its front cover when there are so many other people out there more deserving of the honor of being featured on the front cover. If he was an activist who advocated non-violence in pursuit of his cause, then maybe the backlash wouldn't have been as extreme. You can imagine if the magazine featured Ted Bundy on its front page. Think of all the negative publicity that would have been generated. Obviously, the magazine provoked much more than thought. It provoked anger and may have greatly eroded the prestige it had built up over such a long period of time. A boycott of the magazine may have dire consequences for its bottom line. After all, the publication IS also a business. I stand by my statement about the function of intelligent journalism. Think of the time Erap called for a boycott of the Inquirer. Quote Link to comment
dungeonbaby Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 (edited) The work of intelligent journalism is to report, to provoke thought, and to offer inputs enabling readers to develop a view to an event in its fullest context. Then they can arrived at more informed opinions. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was the doer, the prime mover behind the Boston Marathon bombing. He caused it to happen. From a journalistic standpoint, I can accept why the editors put him on the cover, distasteful as it might seem. Putting the victims on the cover would have been the humanly empathetic thing to do, but it would have deviated from the focus of journalism. By the same token, that is why books are written about serial killers and other sociopaths, not their victims.. true, the magazine cover did provoke. just as rolling stones did in the past with its charles manson cover. let's say that the magazine did want to investigate how a young man became a monster when he was by all indications doing well in america. was that the sole reason rolling stones used that selfie on the cover? was the feature going to be a psych piece on why this terrorist has got teenage girls atwitter and calling for his release? if so, could rolling stones not have placed the photo on the inside? there's no question it's distasteful, one can only imagine the pain that victims and their loved ones feel over the fan base that has developed around dzhokhar proclaiming his innocence. is there any doubt that young females defend him for his good looks, did khalid sheikh mohammed develop such a fanbase after his photo was released? the rolling stones cover is a glamour shot, a flattering shot taken by dzhokhar himself, and we all know a caption-less picture can deliver a powerful message. in this case, the ensuing furor has shown that the photo is more powerful than the accompanying cover type. the people who reacted found it hard to believe it was not a deliberate attempt to sell copies, to be controversial, despite the obvious insensitivity to victims of the bombing. so while the editors can claim they had a journalistic mission, it's doubtful they can claim common decency. they could have stuck to their mission and been respectful of the dead and the maimed by simply choosing a more appropriate cover. I stand by my statement about the function of intelligent journalism. Think of the time Erap called for a boycott of the Inquirer. with its front page misdeeds in the last year, i have trouble equating the Inquirer with intelligent journalism to maxiev: you and i are free to express our disgust with a boycott of a publication. but write and boycott its sponsors, more effective. Edited July 21, 2013 by dungeonbaby Quote Link to comment
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